MR why do you waste all your time with Hoagland? No matter what is said the cydonia Face and those other faces will never prove a thing. At best its a toss up if those things are artificial. The worse thing about them is they do not prove who the hell was up there. The cydonia face could be a human face or an alien face and thats only if its actually made by anyone. All this aquabbling does is take the focus off the real questions.
The truth is that no one went to Mrs and made the Cydonia face and then left without building many other things up there. Despite the tampering of the images some of those things got by NASA's censors and thats what needs to be found.
I listened to Hoagland the other night on C2C and the most important thing he said in 3 hours flew over everyones heads. He finally came out and said that the people that were once on Mars were Humans and thats the secret NASA is trying to keep from us. He said that humans are an ancient space traveling race. I agree 100 percent with that statement and came to it doing my own research.
I know that most of the people hope it was some liitle green ET's especially the UFO crowd but that just not the case. The question that should have been asked of Hoagland is how did he come to that conclusion? How does he know they were humans related to us earthlings on Mars at one time? There is no way he could have come to that conclusion from just the cydonia face.
Let me go into more detail about where I am coming from on this. I am getting old and would like to know who was up on Mars in the past before things went bad. I look at Hoagland and what I see was a 20 year old that came out of nowhere to become the head of some science Museum. Next thing you know he is sitting beside Walter Cronkite on national TV as some space advisor. Now was that just some lucky break or some young guy being in the right place at the right time? I don't think so. Things like that just don't happen from pure luck. Some powerful people were backing him. So whatever the deal with him is its set in stone what his agenda is. He already knows what he can reveal and on what time frame. But his agenda is not my agenda and if he isn't going to reveal anything anytime soon then I am not going to sit around hoping he does.
Maybe that is his agenda, to get people to waste their time with petty squabbles and mis-directing their focus away from the real important things. I don't know and don't really care. The bottom line is if he is a "gatekeeper then no matter what you or I say its not going to matter in what he does.
Now the Cydonia Face has been around for what? 20 years? And thats where Hoagland got his credibility with the Mars crowd but its never going to be the last word on the subject. At best its a 50/50 toss up as to it being artificial or not. Even the face itself could be alien or human. Again a tossup. There needs to be more evidence found or brought forward. I admit it was Hoagland pushing the Cydonia Face that got me interested in all this but he seems to have dropped the ball. He got a bunch of people to look at Mars and the possibility that the Cydonia Face could be artificial then left everyone high and dry up there while he went to the moon and back to earth trying to prove the NAZIs run NASA. I'm still on Mars wondering where he ran off too?
But lets say my suspicions about him are all wrong. Then the only other explaination is he is getting old also and took some heat from the mainstream science establishment for his views about mars. So now he is concerned about his legacy when he is gone. That might explain why he wanted to write a book about the NAZIs running NASA to get more credibility in those circles. Now instead of taking on the controversial stuff he dances around them and tailors his arguments to the academic community. Whatever the reasons MR don't get stuck in the mud like that. Move forward...Cydonia was yesterdays news.
Hello Anonymous. I will address with comments to your questions etc as I read.
(lengthy reply... please tolerate)
1st, you said: "MR why do you waste all your time with Hoagland? No matter what is said the cydonia Face and those other faces will never prove a thing."
MARS REVEALER: Waste my time??? Is that what I am doing? To me, I am fighting a WAR with him. It is a complex answer that needs to be given for such a simple question. Hoagland is the crux of why much of my time stays focused upon that "BUTTRESS"!
Mainly for what he did to me & my family as well as The Martian Revelation Show. ALL because of a video he was in, that shows some OTHER FACES OF MARS IMAGERY the public has never seen before the video was made! Plus it was 13 years after the video was made, that they still all went UN-NOTICED, until I revealed the video & these Faces. 1st at his pay to read & post conference center forum. Where I was an Honorary member of Enterprise Mission.
Until that is, after my insistance on continuing my investigation into the video, these images, & of what demanded me to investigate HOAGLAND HIMSELF!!! Mainly because of his own actions & words to me, in what was NOT in the best interest of science, nor in the best interest of the investigation, nor in the best interest of the Enterprise Mission People themselves, for me to simply 'DROP THIS GARY.... DO SOMETHING ELSE'!!!!!!
You see anonymous, This is & was No ordinary video documentary! It is a coded masterpiece upon which I am able to see some of it & able to learn things from it of information. INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION being given to us all!
Part of that information is that it alludes itself to an underlying structure, underneath the surface. The surface is the cover, or the cover story. Which is the video you all see when you watch it. However, the underneath story tells a different story. One that indicates itself to be a design of intelligence. In more ways than one!
This intelligence calls itself in code as being 'OUR OWN'... or 'OUR TEAM'. pLACING THEMSELVES in a position of the 4th world! Yes, calling themselves MARTIANS is one aspect of seeing & understanding this. However , it can also be an attribute for the 4th dimension! Where this Intelligence originates, or is positioned.
Now, this code states that this was created by an UNKNOWN RACE, OF INTELLIGENT BEINGS! Hmmmm. Some ways I see this. One is that I think the starting Gun has fired & I am RUNNING, since anyway he (Hoagland) advised EVERYONE at Enterprise conference that SOMEONE ELSE, HAD TO DO THE SERIOUS LEGWORK!!!! Hmmmm.
Now another way I see this statement, is that these 4th worlders are an unknown Race, of Intelligent Beings. To us it seems anyway. :-/
Another way I see this statement is that there is a Race of Unknown Intelligent Beings going on!! I mean Unknown Intelligent Beings here on earth! OF INTELLIGENCE!! WHO ARE anUNKNOWN Race! They are in a Race that is unknown to us?! Or, the type of Intelligence that they are here on earth, is a Race, or in other words, a Branch type of Government Intelligence Unkown to us??
Now, this is where it gets interesting more. Why? Because these same 'OUR OWN' Unknown Intelligent Beings, in this code, have also FINGER POINTED Hoagland as Being... 'A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM'!! He is a Member of 'OUR OWN'!! APART of The UNKNOWN RACE OF INTELLIGENT BEINGS speaking to us from the 4th World. Or the 4th Dimension. Speaking to us all from INSIDE This multi-faceted code, called CYDONIA!
This will help to understand where my investigation has led me AFTER what went down tween me & Super Hoagy there, publicly & privately, to understand then what happened, way back when when my time was wasted in pursuing answers from him, that he avoided & wanted to steer all away from this video & it's Faces, as well as any connections that he HAD to the video, these images, as well as that to those behind the program!
I do not see pursuing the truth as a waste of time Anonymous. Especially when the investigation is solid enough to show just cause of it's validity to support especially what the code is saying, in comparisons to that which Super Hoagy said & done. Especially after the producers own words & comments on the matter & regards to Hoagland as being much more involved & also connected to these images than he (Hoagland) was wanting to let on to anyone!! Especially at his own Enterprise Conference center!!!
Look the short end of it is that he set me up! Treated me as an Operative would & did much to thwart my efforts. Using threats even to me & my family, as well as to my future in Mars research, as well as especially... MY RADIO SHOW THE MARTIAN REVELATION!!!
The hot end of the stick of the truth of the matter is that I uncovered a conspiracy that involves him, these images, Secret Intelligence, & show that his SO CALLED SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH IS ALSO JUST A COVER STORY!!! Lying to us all, with many following him as if he is of the light, yet he is of the Darkness! Many are fooled. I was once!
To me I am not wasting my time. He underestimated me in my seriousness to my Mars research & thought me easy to cull away, by portraying me as someone who is crazy, not worth listening to. Because he does not want anyone to see apparently, what his OWN TEAM laid in wait for many years to now unfold about UFO DIARIES, & THE BUTTRESS WITHIN who is not what he really appears to be on the surface! (NOT ME!!!)
This threatened him, because it can UN-MAN HIM! To dis-cover him, as the OPERATIVE HE REALLY IS! It blows his cover so to speak!
He has these images & he himself told me more than a couple times in the past he has secret images no one has seen before, & even Robin has made excuses a couple months back for him saying he had files a few years back that were stolen from him. She said this because I called & DEMANDED THESE IMAGES FROM HIM AS THEY ARE MINE TO PRESENT!! I was getting tired of him ignoring the issues & my questions & what has been alleged against him by the creators themselves of UFO DIARIES!! I told them (Robin & Super Hoagy) that if he did not give them to me, I would then escalate this fight. With MYSTERIOUS PICTURES.
The facts are that I have much reasoning I can nearly write a book with as to why my time is spent so much on that BUTTRESS.
However, I do have more reasons of the scientific side to this issue of CODES.
You see people, he is playin a script, in all he says & does. As an operative he is singing thier song. Speaking thier lingo as it were. Now, when someone is taught by a vigorous process of learning to see & understand this code, this lingo, it becomes easier to spot this out. NOT only in videos, but in audios, from articles, from conferences etc. Plus, TIME IS NO ISSUE! It seems. because embedded & if anyone really listens to super Hoagy in those things, one will always see & hear him say things that which he hints & alludes to something more being said behind the scenes. Something more to look at in what he is saying or trying to say, hinting & teasing us all to look closely to & look closely for. Of which he even always says, if we can figure it out, it will change all our lives. Well, it has changed mine, plus it has me still seeking & still trying to figure this out.
I am working on currently & already have put forth examples of this scenario. That will show & prove itself to be more than just myself at work, & also will show itself to be beyond my intelligence to really create this all & make all these connections.
Hoagland needs to be read more deeply & more concentrated upon in his works.
To see the hidden codes & the pieces to a much bigger picture & structure of intelligence he is trying to present to us all.
That I am convinced of! Take heed!!!
Anonymous said...: "No matter what is said the cydonia Face and those other faces will never prove a thing. At best its a toss up if those things are artificial."
MARS REVEALER: It will prove that the mere Face at Cydonia aint alone! Plus as Chuck Sellier stated to me on MR show, 'THINK ABOUT THIS, SCIENTISTS USUALLY REQUIRE 3 SOURCES!!!'
Notice 3 Faces of Mars images... different Faces... looking Like Faces. Yes, proves that there are Facial profilic structures on the surface of Mars, that is being hidden from us all. Espeically those very images, from Hoagland himself no less, as he was the one who PROVIDED THEM!!!!!! yeah, aint that a kick in da woop dee doo!
Also as I also thought & believed, that Chuck Sellier also said he sees these faces appear to be Pyramids as well! That makes things more interesting, especially when it fits my theory of the Face at Cydonia to begin with. Amongst other clarification of my theories of Mars this code vindicates me for. ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "The worse thing about them is they do not prove who the hell was up there. The cydonia face could be a human face or an alien face and thats only if its actually made by anyone. All this aquabbling does is take the focus off the real questions."
MARS REVEALER: I agree there. These Faces do not prove WHO was up there, but it surely proves... AN INTELLIGENCE WAS UP THERE... & I BELIEVE STILL IS UP THERE NOW!!! But that is my opinion. ;-) remember, on one face or FACET of this code jewel, it is the Martians who are giving us info in this code. :-) The 4th worlders. What a means of disclosure. Communication!!!
Those Faces also are definitely made by a living intelligent being/s. They are not mere & are not natural. Remember, scientists usually require 3 sources! ;-)
This quabbling you are saying, in my opinion, no offence, is as what others also do & done. Trying to steer all away from the important questions. Mainly about Super Hoagy & his not wishing to address these questions with any truth & avoids direct confrontation about these questions needed to be addressed & answered & even REBUTTED by him!!!
I told him one that he is NOT the investigator into this, BUT THE INVESTIGATED!!! He not liked that much.
A few of my questions I would ask & wish people with NUTS will ask is:
1: When will he give us answers about these images & Ufo Diaries from which these images came from???
2: when will he finally follow up on the information he wanted me to find for him to investigate these images & also the people behind the program, so he can get us all the important information, that I am sure he has had a chance to find by now, after nearly 3 years, since he encouraged & said he would do this???
3: How long was he an Operative for 'OUR TEAM'??
4: hOW LONG DID HE WORK FOR Chuck Sellier & his CREW???
5: wHY DID HE LIE ABOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE of this Video, as well as of it's pictures, as well as his knowledge of the producers behind the program?
6: Why did he not want to be filmed in connection to the Faces Of Mars images, or play his roles to say his script in the scenes that he left BIG HOLES IN???
7: Why did he encourage me to investigate into this video & it's Face of Mars mysterious pictures??? Only to hide & deny, & want me to slide this under a rug, after I started doing so???
8: Why did he try to make bribes to me, & set me & my family up to fail & fall? Why did he try to have me committed & tried to split my family up???
9: Why did he start a smear campaign against me to destroy my research & my work???
10: Why did he ban me from his Enterprise Conference center??
11: Why did he want to appear on the record as fast as possible, & then not want to appear on the Martian Revelation show to speak about these Faces images & about those behind the program? Why did he NOT want to appear on the program with those who have made such strong allegations about knowing him, & telling us of his connection to these images??
12: Why is he ignoring OTHER FACES OF MARS which would only strengthen & support his Face of Mars research? To especially ignore them from a video that he himself was in????? What is wrong with this picture???
So anonymous, these are but a few of the many more & even better questions I have. But that was a few to show enough of the real questions that need to be asked.
I have another for ALL ELSE!!! WHY ARE ALL the 'so called serious Mars Researchers' BEING SUCH BIG PUSSIES & BEING AFRAID TO ASK OR EVEN PRESSURE HOAGLAND TO ANSWER REGARDS TO THIS VIDEO, AS WELL AS TO THESE IMAGES???? As well as pointing out his LIES about his comments to 'EVERYONE' regarding this all?
Many would rather it seems, be reach arounded & stroked by him just to have his attention & are cool with not wanting to get any answers from him about this. YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!
Grow some nuts, or get out of the Mars research fields, especially where anomalies are concerned!! You PROVE YOURSELVES UNWORTHY OF MY RESPECT & I SPIT AT YOU ALL!!! My WAR against him INCLUDES YOU!!! aGAIN... YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!
Instead of the biggest dis-covery of the century, let alone last century, it is indeed the biggest cover up of both centuries!!!
Hoagland is the conspiracy CENTER in this case!! That is what he is trying to keep under cover THE TRUTH FROM BEING SEEN!!!!!
It seems so called SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHERS ARE NOT SO SERIOUS AT ALL, BUT ARE JUST WANNA BEE'Z!! POZERS!!! for to me Anonymous, THEY ARE WASTING THEIR TIME!! Or, they wish to be apart of the LIE just so they can be looking as if they are something or someone special!! They let go of their principles & their quest for the truth to accept & play along with a LIE! As well as to play with a LIAR!!!
They became & become fake, by ignoring what demands investigation, they choose sides rather than go with those that seek TRUTH!
Many really wish to see Hoagland's true nature ay?? Well, in PRIVATE E-MAILS, is where I can show his TRUE NATURE! he does NOT seriously care for the SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH, but is more concerned with his impressions of being a man with much money. As his own words state, that he is concerned about how people think of him, is based solely, upon his financial status, & NOT upon the seriousness or the quality of his SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH!
Make no mistake Anonymous, My Time is being used well as best as I can utilize it for, & that goal is to GET ANSWERS, TO PRESS HIM, TO MAKE HIM KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE NO ESCAPE FROM ME, OR FROM HIS OWN 'OUR TEAM'!! Remember, it is they that had him play his role. But they seen into the future. They are here to say we know you, we know what you did, & provide photographic evidence, by way of coded mysterious pictures, & then some! There is other eviences out there that kind of connect & correlate to Hoagland being apart of a secret group upon which he was fitted.
Some group called SWORD! Where NASA was the orginization that sent him one day, unannounced into their lair & had a breifing after wetting his breifs? Remember what Sellier said to me on MR Show???
'We Got them (faces of mars pics) From NASA & Hoagland. THERE YOU ARE!!! (drum symbols) ONE OF HIMS GONNA SAY YEAH,... THOSE ARE OURS'!!!
Anonymous?? Whose would they be?? OUR TEAM'S!! OUR OWN! That Hoagland is implied as being 'A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM!!
tHE POINT IS THAT IS WHAT THE code OF uFO dIARIES cYDONIA, SPELLS OUT. Now, How can this connect to the SWORD story of Hoagland?? Because NASA sent him to them way back when. So that is how he was scripted in code to be told to us. AS NASA, & The Buttress Richard Hoagand A Member Of Our Team Of Intelligence!
I can say more about my potential connections tween SWORD & Super Hoagy there, but I will not go on now about this.
This is about WASTING TIME! But those of you all who think I am the one wasting it, well, youz already know what I think & feel of youz!
I am declaring that TIME IS UP for the Buttress. He is RETIRED NOW & is thinking he still has all the power!
yet he is now un-shielded, & there are NO DEFENSES FOR HIM upon my ease or what will become more easily for me in using the very thing that empowered him to begin with to win my WAR with him & get some pay back!
he could have & still could fix this. I DEMAND THESE IMAGES FROM HIM PUBLICLY & CHALLENGE HIS SUPREMACY TO LEAD THE ENTERPRIZE MISSION PEOPLE!
Now why don't any of YOU????? I will stand strong with you! You do NOT have to believe in all the crazy shit I see or am investigating. But if you see anything that makes sense in what I say & show to show that Super Hoagy there, is HIDING THINGS FROM US ALL ABOUT THIS,... I am your ally!!!
I really cannot be the only person out there who sees something wrong here, or who wishes to see him answer, &/or MAKE HIM ANSWER regarding these Faces images & this video & his place in connections to all of it!!! How can this be if so???
What was done to me by my peers in support of that DICK Hoagland, is also reasons enough for me to spend as much time as possible to figure this all out, & also to pay him back!
Again Anonymous, focusing upon me instead of upon HIM as someone who is wasting time, is not trying to solve anything. If anything, your tryin to play upon my feelings to cut my efforts & run & still leave that DICK Hoagland untouched for what he has done to me & my family!! While he continues his charade of bullshit.
BUT Bullshit all may not be if I am correct, that Coast To Coast show you mentioned about him recently doing (I yet to hear) I am sure I can say with ease he is hinting still, alluding to things beneath the veneer of STUFF that is inside to be discovered, as a jewel! or a dome! The COVER OF THE SURFACE HIDING THE SECRET TREASURE OF INTELLIGENCE WITHIN!!
Break through the dome, & he & THEY... BECOME UNSHIELDED!!! Then one can see & maybe put some puzzle pieces together, as they are ALL APART OF THE CODE OF CYDONIA!!!
Wanna bet me?? Wait till I do hear it & make some Mysterious Pictures that connect & all attribute to each other.
By the geometry, of the baseline, (the script & it's embedded intelligence) Based all upon Brookings model as thier mold to make this code to present us or with hold from us all the TRUTH! That some want & some others NOT WANT us all to see or know. About them, about what they really found, about everything!!!
So... to me an Unknown Race is already being Run! How far ahead are any of you to my position in this Unknown Race, of INTELLIGENT BEINGS!!!???
IN MY OPINION... All of us are being fingerpointed at to be tested, by using your intelligences to dig through that veneer Hoagland always speaks about & alludes to.
Yet I am the scum bag ay? We will see. Yet where is super Hoagy in regards to his findings upon any of the infoz he wanted me to get him, to get us these images & their important information about them, from THOSE BEHIND THE PROGRAM????
JOIN ME!!!!!!! JOIN THIS FIGHT!!! Thus Join the plight as you also will see how he will handle YOU who stand up & be counted!! He simply answers saying THIS IS NONSENSE... ALL LIES! NOTHING TO SEE HERE.... HE (Mars Revealer) IS CRAZY!
So... I ask, who really is the crazy one to think that this will simply go away & make life easy for that Buttress who wanted to destroy mine????
That is a really great question!!!
What say you?
I also am wondering what research you allude to Anonymous that you do. I would be interested to see about it sometime if & when you ever wish to show it.
Glad to see & meet another researcher who has balls to think for himself or herself, & who aint afraid to speak up!...??? Ay... 'Anonymous'????
I most certainly will continue pursuing him. I apolagize if you feel this is directed at you Anonymous. Please forgive & try to understand. It has been nearly 3 years since this investigation began, & the things he said & actions taken against me & my family by him. I am in a FIGHT, one he will sooner or later, be forced to FEEL THE SPANKING! I would really love if this was not the cases. But what is one who is lower than low to do with a snob nosed BUTTRESS who manipulates & destroys peoples lives because he wants all to see & think he is RICH & the greatest person on Earth??!! I WANT PAYBACK!!!!)
Hello Anonymous. Thanks for replying clarifying more detail. I hope you were able to understand & tolerate my last reply. I needed to vent to those that would feel it's heat to get a message that I aint gonna stop.
So, now to focus on you Anonymous.
Anonymous said: "Let me go into more detail about where I am coming from on this.'
MARS REVEALER: That sounds great, as details is great & much needed, especially in regards to this shit. I appreciate your taking time to do so. Please continue to do so.
Anonymous said: "I am getting old and would like to know who was up on Mars in the past before things went bad."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmm. Why do I feel much meaning in your words. Sounds like you been really patient for a while? I however would like to know who was up on Mars also in the past before things went bad. With Mars as the UFO DIARIES Cydonia episode. Things went bad back then as far as I can tell from Lee Shackleford & Mr Sellier. Plus someone who was up there in the past, Super Hoagy there, does not want to remember that past or his tie to those pics & to THOSE BEHIND THE PROGRAM. I wonder what exactly went bad or why it went bad. Those needed details again. :-/
But on a serious note, to your statement, I agree! Who was up there? Someone of some type of Intellectectual understanding beings were. Human or otherwise. That is fascinating really! Plus what happened there. I mean really, not thinking of how Mars as WE NOW KNOW IT TO BE as any reasonings behind it. That is a cover up! The MARS THEY NOW KNOW, I'd like to see & understand from their perspectives, as they see what is REALLY there. Or to try to determine if anything, happened there at all that spells the demise of a species of another world, let alone the surface of that world which has been sculpted in such advanced ways showing some amazing things. Which obviously is being, & has been covered up from us all. I hope I am making sense here.
What made it so bad that we cannot know & see also? To be covered up? How is science supposed to work in FACE of the reality that exists if we are told & taught to FACE a reality based upon a LIE or many lies?
Anonymous said: "I look at Hoagland and what I see was a 20 year old that came out of nowhere to become the head of some science Museum. Next thing you know he is sitting beside Walter Cronkite on national TV as some space advisor. Now was that just some lucky break or some young guy being in the right place at the right time? I don't think so. Things like that just don't happen from pure luck."
MARS REVEALER: Oh how I agree. To me it is obvious. But again, that Past thing confronts us that prevents us all from knowing. Or is this process apart of this investigation helping to change all that? because here we are discussing this here now because of My investigation which was already something to be found & looked at long before I came along to investigate! That is as obvious to me as it is not being LUCK on Super Hoagy's part there to wind up where he did way back when. Just as it aint LUCK I am here now also in this investigation. There are no coincidences.
But who am I to judge him & his past? It was as secret as the MARS THEY NOW KNOW! Yet look at it all unfolding. Trying to anyway. :-) I know I am curious as would be & there are many others that would LOVE to see & hear that story! Because it is HISTORY!Based upon a reality we are & were not taught. So I agree with you Anonymous.
Anonymous said: "Some powerful people were backing him. So whatever the deal with him is its set in stone what his agenda is. He already knows what he can reveal and on what time frame."
MARS REVEALER: Yes, It would have to be powerful people backing him. At least he had backing! He was doing his job & following that job order, & all it details to this day?? Or has something changed in that Job order which now, in his future, this investigation & us talking about it, is showing glimpses of possibilities here, that may show it may not have been as set in stone as once thought? Or was this apart of the plan etched in stone to occur? But he not likes it or wants it to be any longer that plan?? Many possibilities this makes me wonder about. Cause I don't know squat! He can answer this. But we know how that all worked out now don't we??
It may seem he knows what he can reveal or not obviously as his job order applies. The time frame & what exactly he has to reveal is his problems. Though I hear what your saying Anonymous. All I know is what he did to me & mine as doing his job order!!! Or was that outside of his job orders? Because someone wanted me to see this code thing & wanted me to seek these answers. No coincidence or luck there I am certain also. But what does that really say about what has happened & what is still happening to me, because of my investigation?? Which again, I still feel someone wanted me or someone at least, to investigate into this.
The deal may have been set in stone, in more ways than one for him what his agenda is, but me??? I am a whole nutha thing! I have my own agenda. One is to pay him back for what he has done to us...My family, (& ALL OF US)!!! You see Anonymous, I can to a degree understand him having to do his job. I loved him before any of this & I still would have. Actually, I know I sound stupid for this, But I still do Love the guy. It is weird. But I cannot sit by without doing anything to bite him back. Only he can fix this in that regard. If it really even ever mattered to him to begin with. He played me from the very beginning is now also obvious & no LUCK involved!
I know many are laughing at me. But hey, I aint a SUPER HOAGY!! I AM HUMAN. With faults. As is he. I did not deserve the treatment I & my family recieved from him, because he is a Buttress doing his job. I was trying to do mine. Plus waiting to do mine as he had me hanging with the promise of a job working for him. I will show his own private emails showing this. Keeping me & telling me to TIE A KNOT IN HIS ROPE & HANG ON??? Mutha F#$KA!!! He wanted to hang me. I was too blind to see it then.
I am curious of course & would love to know & share what it is or was he is supposed to be revealing. Is he still within that time frame? or is it beyond? Or is he that Monkey Wrench in the gears screwing up the plan?
Either way, where do I fit in? or do I at all? In either case, it not matters, because now I am in a fight with him. Because of things he did. If that screws with the plan?? Oh well! He shoulda thought about that before F$#KIN with ME & MINE!
Think he is not concerned?? Then why did he act as the operative he is aginst me, If I were not a threat unto him?? To expose himself to me, & me still standing. Kinda. :-/ But still fighting!!
I aint giving up, & TIME IS ALL I HAVE TO USE to break him apart!
He may have had a job to do & I can respect that. But NOT by being a DICK, did he have to do so. That is why I think someone Pre- DICK-ted him into place. Someone other than myself, considered him a DICK that needed & needs to be beaten. Pardon the pun. But if the rubber fits! :-/
Anonymous said: "But his agenda is not my agenda and if he isn't going to reveal anything anytime soon then I am not going to sit around hoping he does."
MARS REVEALER: Well, that is great to hear. On many FACETS of understandings. :-) Because his agenda to me, was to destroy me & my family, & my work, & my show, let alone my progress & RIGHTS, in any of those!
You sound like a man of reason. Paitiently waiting. Been waiting for a while it seems you have. Sounds heartfelt in your comment. Hmmmm. I hope you feel mine. So do you have any other CHOICES, in waiting for him or not to reveal anything anytime soon? I would like to hear them if it is ok. Your not just gonna give up are you? Letting that Buttress win us all over???
I certainly aint just gonna give up. I am lower than shit now & he created & helped much of that. Yet, that still will not stop me in trying!
Anonymous said: "Maybe that is his agenda, to get people to waste their time with petty squabbles and mis-directing their focus away from the real important things. I don't know and don't really care."
MARS REVEALER: Well, maybe that is or was apart of his protocol work orders? To do so to keep us all away from the truth under the surface? that can be seen, on that surface? That certainly fits this UFO Diaries scenario. Coincidence again?! :-/
However, I do not have a petty squabble against him. The real important things is what make me squabble & why I wanna play squash with him! Seems I am alone in this anyway in trying to do so. Aside from a small few who appreciate my efforts in trying to do so. :-) Maybe you do not care about that. As who the frak am I right? But I know he will NEVER FORGET ME! Nor I him!
Anonymous said: "The bottom line is if he is a "gatekeeper then no matter what you or I say its not going to matter in what he does."
MARS REVEALER: Ya know what? I have a friend in Netherlands (I not spoken with a while) named ALIEN GENIOUS. He once told me a few years back that Super Hoagy was a Gatekeeper. I did not get it then, nor do I care! I intend to squash him & maybe then, I will steal inside that gate, he tried to keep shut on us all!
Anonymous said: "Now the Cydonia Face has been around for what? 20 years? And thats where Hoagland got his credibility with the Mars crowd but its never going to be the last word on the subject. At best its a 50/50 toss up as to it being artificial or not. Even the face itself could be alien or human. Again a tossup. There needs to be more evidence found or brought forward."
MARS REVEALER: I agree, His word aint gonna be the last of anything having to do with Mars, or with the Mars crowd!! I agree about there being more evidence to be found & brought forward. I only hope & wish I can help provide that to you & all, or even get some help in doing that. That would be nice. But that seems like a joke also. Unless you can help in some ways that can give you a hope of the future that which it seems he has taken from you also??? I can relate to that!! That Buttress! You can stay anonymous even ANYONE I MEAN THIS FOR!!! I admit, I need that help. I am asking it!
You said... "I admit it was Hoagland pushing the Cydonia Face that got me interested in all this but he seems to have dropped the ball."
MARS REVEALER: That is funny you say that Anonymous, because Lee Shackleford asked me 'WHO CAUGHT THIS??' ;-) In this code it described a scenario that is totally having to be imagined. It says There was an illegal Player on the feild, trying to keep another player, as in check, preventing this player from getting the puck, or catching the ball! It seems I am on the ball there. Coincidences again. :-/
Plus comparing it also, to a braodcast signal trying to be received, but something was trying to block that reception. More coincidences. :-/
Anonymous said: "He got a bunch of people to look at Mars and the possibility that the Cydonia Face could be artificial then left everyone high and dry up there while he went to the moon and back to earth trying to prove the NAZIs run NASA. I'm still on Mars wondering where he ran off too?"
MARS REVEALER: Ha ha ha ha ha. Well, if I read deeply into this (please read me out) I can answer that riddle. he left everyone High & Dry up there on Mars, Ufo Diaries Cydonia, went to the moon, which is a small video, with him being interviewed by an austrailian dude, with Capitol Hill in the background of Hoagland, who also has been attributed as being 'A MOON'... (an ass) Thus making him, & that small video, THE MOON OF MARS! Which was broadcast to Earth. ha ha ha ha ha. The geometry of Intelligence that these 2 videos share connects them to see this. Though took some time to learn to see I admit. I apolagize to all for that one. But I still have a long way to go. So I apolagize again. But I aint quittin!
Anyway, on the serious side surface you say, I think Hoagy is right. The NAZI'S... or the NOT-SEES rather, Run the public space program NASA. Super Hoagy alays says that most do not know or are aware of what the higher ups in command know who are apart of this COVER JOB!!!
Anonymous said...: "But lets say my suspicions about him are all wrong. Then the only other explaination is he is getting old also and took some heat from the mainstream science establishment for his views about mars."
MARS REVEALER: I doubt your suspicions are wrong about him Anonymous, as I feel & think mine are not either. Yes getting Old & Gracefully needs to be retired. Well, after what he did to me, he will be lucky... to have grace of any kind! But I do agree, from what I learned in this code of Cydonia thus far, & from what I heard from the producers, yes,... I agree, HE TOOK SOME HEAT!!! FROM THE MAINSTREAM SCIENCE ESTABLISHMENT THAT SEES THE MARS THEY NOW KNOW! The code states he took some Pictures. Can it be the very faces of Mars images be the heat or part of the HEAT he took? Just thinking out loud. ;-) Or maybe he took some heat for taking them, from the mainstream science ESTABLISHMENT, and now, in the future, as he is now older, HE HAS TO FACE HIS VIEWS, ABOUT MARS?? (Ufo Diaries)
Anonymous said: "So now he is concerned about his legacy when he is gone. That might explain why he wanted to write a book about the NAZIs running NASA to get more credibility in those circles."
MARS REVEALER: His legacy when he is gone?? If I have my way which I am working to acheive, his only legacy about himself & the serious Mars research, will be of Lies & deception, & him being a fraud to the public & all knowing, it was the one he called his son... who helped that legacy to occur!! He will not be a subject of worship or honor, but a rememberance of shame & disgrace unto himself! After all, I as you or anyone else has a right to the truth. How can one honor him as being such, if he is a Liar covering that truth?? He is a False God, as is his idea of himself as a God to be remembered, & honored, is false!
I like to also state that HE was NOT the riginal person to share those ideas in his book. many sites & many documentaries are out there LONG BEFORE Super Hoagy there, decided to write them down as if it is his own research & discoveries that made that book!
He needs to be concerned about one thing...NOW! How is he gonna deal with me? How is he gonna finish this? Cause I aint gonna stop. Unless & until I get these faces of Mars images in my hands, & I get public vindication. Especially after all me & my family have been through, because of a fucking video He & his own team,... CREATED long before my interest, care, or work for Mars existed!!!
Anonymous said: "Now instead of taking on the controversial stuff he dances around them and tailors his arguments to the academic community. Whatever the reasons MR don't get stuck in the mud like that. Move forward...Cydonia was yesterdays news."
MARS REVEALER: "But in seriousness to your surface statement, it seems your saying he is pussin' out??? Shows he is NOT a Mighty VIKING WARRIOR AT ALL!
I will say this, though I do not fully understand your comments, but I will reply anyway. If I was to be a choice, or some type of replacement (not gettin a big head here) I will stand strong in my research & in my views about it. I owe no favors to mainstream, to suck on that schlong to appease them for the things they will or will not address or consider. I see a Mars totally different than most anyway. Whih by the wway, this UFO Diaries confirms & validates my threories of Mars anyway, from a researcher point of view. And no body much is willing to conceive yet alone believe as much anyway. Also I will add, I am already stuck in the mud, but I aint pussin out of this fight against him! Even though... It looks as if I have already lost. :-(
Someone close to me said 'STAY TRUE TO YOURSELF'! For good or for bad, I know not the outcome from this truth. Evil or good? I know not. But how the fuck do we know, unless we know & go to where no one has gone before.... BOLDLY!!
No matter what. Nazi's, aliens... demons. Yes scares the piss outta me. BUT.... Is that enough for me to stop & drop this?? Because how the heck do I or anyone know, what good it can be for us all?? If there is none, we all still have a right, because reality is reality. Truth is truth. Truth does not come from the LIAR, or from Satan. If Satan controls this all?? Some light of Truth is trying to guide us in FACING IT ALL!
I am a visonary. I have hopes, dreams, & wants like all else should hopefully have.
No, If I have the CONTROVERSIAL GOODS I SEEK, I SURE WILL TAUNT & FLAUNT THEM FAR & WIDE! WE HAVE A SPACE RACE TO WIN & I INTEND TO DO MY PART TO WIN IT! As lowly as I am, I have rights, that as an American, I TOO... CAN HAVE A DREAM!!!! AS WELL AS CAN TAKE ONE GIANT LEAP FOR ALL MANKIND!!
But I think I hear you Anonymous. All I can say is I promise, (whatever that is worth to anyone) that I will always try to do my best, to be true to myself, & to the foundations of my work ethic in this research, & I will NOT BE REACH AROUNDED TO APPEASE THOSE WHO NOT FAVOR ME!!! I think in this fight, I showed some, of that hope to have in me.
I do not & did not want to hurt anyone, nor mess with any secret societies etc, or fuck with people in power. UNLESS THEY DESERVE TO BE!
I just want the truth. I want these images. I want answers. I want to have my work, my show, my family, freinds, & us all, to be happy & to be stable. Yet I am the bad guy in this all.
I do not ever wanna be a BUTTRESS, nor be PRE-DICK-TED into anything as he was. I am sure he pissed off certain folks that may have had him deserve all this. All I can say is that I take my work seriously & want to make my difference upon the Earth & beyond, before I go! I have that right!! I am downtrodden, low, broke, in suffering, & in humiliation because of who I am & my work. Who can be impressed with me??
But it aint all about me nor is it my place to make it that way. Unlike a Buttress we all know. I just want a life. I want my life. Is it wrong Anonymous, to have a desire to do something important? To do something that makes a difference??? To others & to my world for others???
I mean if it is wrong, then why the F#%K be alive at all? I admit to all.. it not matters,... I am only alive still, to fight, as if I still have hope to be my potential, because someone wanted to take it all from me as if they or HE is the determinant factor of my doing so as if I need his permission.
God gave me my desire & gave me this work I am convinced. That Buttress aint God!!! I only pray each day he will see & hear me & my families prayers, & the prayers of us all, that I can succeed. That WE ALL CAN SUCCEED!!!
If these BOYZ of his want me to shut my yap... Then by all means. Kill me now. I would have already done this myself for them I tell you the truth. But someone gave me a reason to live!! More than one person. One I appreciate & ask blessings for that person, even though I think he hates me, & the other,... I AM OUT TO PAY HIM BACK FOR DESTROYING MY LIFE!
I wish none of this was even happening. You know the funny thing Anonymous? is that I think & feel this code is likea communication TO ME! To aid me in some way, because it was seen what was to occur beforehand, & possibly gave me an edge for a weapon I can use to fight this immense POWERS THAT BE who want to prevent me from fullfilling my potential.
I once said to Chuck Sellier, This code seems to possibly be a Trojan Horse. To which in reply he says; "That brings up Satanic implications to this, because what side of the Force, Gave this to us???
I am a sinner yes. But I believe personally In jesus. yes go figure, a Jesus freak who believes in the Martians & aliens. ;-)
I can only put my faith as weak or as strong it is or can be, in the Lord to help me solve this. Because I was & am on this path & I must walk this path. I pray he will guide me & protect me because I am dealing with powers beyond my lowly self.
But I will not pussy away from it. Maybe this is for me to test of myself?? For me to see & know who I really am inside. I swear though Anonymous or anyone else, I donot want to be a DICK in this work or in this life to anyone. Even if that was my JOB! Certainly not manipulate or destroy peoples lives & families & work!
I would be deservant of death.I just want to do what is right.
I FEEL THIS IS RIGHT ANONYMOUS! No, not all that has happened, but to pursue the truth. To keep fighting. Even as weak & low as I am. It is all I have. If I fail, maybe in my mind & soul, I feel like maybe I have failed myself. Not just myself, but ALL who have supported me, or wanted me to succeed.
Now I sound like a puss ay? But I have to be true to myself. I have nothing left but what I have. My family at the moment, my work (if you can call it that anymore) & my DREAM & VISION to make that difference that can help us all.
I do not wish to give anyone reason to place me in any mud of THEIR OWN! As I said, If I am the enemy, I already am in the mud & it is from Hoagy & those who share his mindset.
THEY ARE MY ENEMIES... & YOURS!!!
I want to move forward & wish that can happen Anonymous. But as I said, without help, or infoz that can lead me to show or get truths we all want & deserve, I am already stuck in the mud. Fighting!! At least! For whatever that is worth of my efforts, I cannot tell. But I have not given up yet to stay in this fight.
I can only say I hope I never let you & many others down. yet I feel as if I already had to be honest. Otherwise, things would already have been different.
Maybe I just said a bit too much. But who gives a shit anyway?? This is as far as I am concerned so far anyway, this is MY FIGHT. There appears to be no light of hope for any help.
So forgive my failures all. But I swear, gievn the chance, I will show all what I am made of. I will not let youz down...again!!!
Sorry if your sleepy or disgusted at my words, but this is my blog. If one can call it that. No one has to read right?
Cydonia may be yesterday's news, but it has still to be in the news to the Cydonia I am speaking about & what they have to offer us if we can get our hands on them faces of Mars images!!!
If anything, just so I can say HEY... TOLD YA YOU F%#king pozers!!!
Thanks for reading me out & dealing with me. Many more thanks in advance to ANYONE OUT THERE READING THIS... THAT CAN HELP ME! NOT BE PUSSIES!!! Fear of your jobs?? Your lives??? How the fuck do you think I feel?? Yet, I am still fighting! Be true to yourselves!!! Even if it costs your life. There IS HONOR IN THAT!!!!
If I die or am killed because of my investigation, or anyone else, that sucks...! But one must stay true to themselves, especially in their work & NOT let or make money be your determinate factor. I believe if it is worthwhile anyway, one would be blessed with that stuffs. A fool I may be, but I have to believe in something. I have to have hope. Even though I admit I feel hope fading & feel lost at times.
I think about the WHAT IF'S!!!!i THINK OF THE POSSIBILITIES, OF GOOD THINGS FOR ALL. Even if it is bad. Maybe I am a sucker. But at least I am standing up for what I feel is the right thing to do. Continue seeking the truth. being a man. A Real man, & not a reacharounded pozer pussy who wants to make a god outta himself or herself as a legacy that is unworthy to begin with to make one of themselves.
I can only hope you see the good in me, of what type of difference I can make. Especially if it is a righteous one to make. I feel I am doing that. That is why I do not give up & my anger fuels me, but I use that to keep my desire to stay strong. I have to survive. I do not know how I am going to. My family did not deserve this. But this is bigger than myself.
I have to stand on what I feel is right. That is what a man is really supposed to do right???
So... what am I supposed to do??? Hopefully that rang the right bells to someone, cause I admit, I need your helps! I ask again, for those that can, to please help in any ways possible.
We demand & need these Images!!
Hoagland can never come out to play with them now, as he would definitely be exposed. Feels like someone gave me a means to cut him off at the pass. 'I Hate That Old Cliche!!' ;-)
MR I'm trying to keep an open mind about this which is easy to do because I am not involved in any way.
My first impression is you talked about how you made the choice to join RH and his research which you say he took advantage of. My question is why did you choose to help him? You have to take responsibility for the choices you make. Were there any clues out there that what happened to you might have been expected? I came to that comclusion and it was a simple thing to do.
First I knew that there are thousands of people who hang on to Hoagland's every word. In fact he inspired many people into doing their own research. Its almost like some people worship him. So when I came along and knowing all this I was surprised to look at his many websites and all I could find were links to his own websites. No links to the websites of some of the newer people that came into this because of him. That tells me he doesn't care one bit about his fans and the people he himself inspired to follow in his footsteps. He is of no help to any of them and there are many people doing this now. A lot of nice young curious minds out there that I have met.
Then you said this,
Quote MR:
"You see anonymous, This is & was No ordinary video documentary! It is a coded masterpiece upon which I am able to see some of it & able to learn things from it of information. INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION being given to us all!"
So by your own statements you say Hoagland did you wrong but then you admit he gave you a masterpiece to work with. In my book that would make it about even between you two. He took and then he gave to you.
Here is my theory. Hoagland wants to get some of this information out but the "powers that be" are watching him very closely. So he knows you are the only one smart enough to break the code if he puts it out in coded form. So he picks a fight with you to fool the people that control him. Now he waits for you or someone as smart as you to break the code to his leaked information. When that happens then he can point to the fact that you hate him and hold a grudge against him so why would he leak you anything? They are convinced and Hoagland is safe from their wrath and you have the Mars Holy Grail in the palm of your hands. It seems strange that you hate him but yet he gave you something of great important value. No offense but you come off as an ingrate.
Seems to me there are only two possibilities here. Either you know thats what happened and this grudge against Hoagland is just a show on your part to protect him from the real powers or you didn't figure that out and are smart enough to break the code but not smart enough to figure out why it had to be done this way which to me would be the easiest part to figure out.
Anonymous... I will reply back in day or so. Interesting comments & thoughts. Ingrate??? Fuck that shit!
Sounds like your kinda defending him. But as I said, I will reply in more detail. By the way a thing to ponder,... HE DID NOT GIVE ME THIS!! He wanted to run warp speed away from this code & investigation! After encouraging me no less!
But let me reply to your comments. Thanks for replying & I hope to set things rite in your understandings some!! Think of me what you will. He deserves payback for what he did to me & my family!! He aint tried to fix it neither!! Nor did he get any info to ANYONE at Enterprise or elsewheres about his serious research into the things he said he would if I (who is the someone who did the serious legwork for him) to bring us all forth answers!!
Yeah... I'll explain some of that shit for you to see & understand!!
Be a day or so before I put my reply forth. Thanks for the patience.
MR there is nothing I know about him to defend. I have never spoken to the man and have never worked with him. Everything I am saying here is just my theories and what you say and what I know about him as a public figure. If I were here to defend him I would not have said he does not help out others who decided to follow in his footsteps.
If I am guilty of anything its trying to be fair to him considering he is not here to defend his side. Doesn't mean I think he is innocent but on the other hand I cannot be fair if I come at this like you are innocent either. I'm just trying to make some sense of it.
You said, Quote MR: "He wanted to run warp speed away from this code & investigation! After encouraging me no less!"
If someone was looking over his shoulders wouldn't that be the way he should act? He encourages you and then when he knows you recognised the code he runs in order to fool his "handlers" into thinking he did not give that stuff to you on purpose. I mean he couldn't just come right out in public and hand you information he knows could get him killed by the "powers that be" could he?
anyways this is what I'm getting so far. He treated you like crap.........then you started treating him like crap as revenge. Then you got something of great value in those codes because of him. Seems like you got the best of this deal. Not sure what the point is to continue this grudge when you came out on top. why not just wipe the slate clean and get on with your Mars research and if you still don't trust Hoagland then don't work with him and go your own seperate way with your reaearch?
Take your time, no rush to respond....I have plenty of time.
Anonymous - I disagree with you about this comment
"No matter what is said the cydonia Face and those other faces will never prove a thing. At best its a toss up if those things are artificial."
All it would take is another FOM(with image number) as good as the Cydon to seal the deal.
You brought up some good points with
"The question that should have been asked of Hoagland is how did he come to that conclusion? How does he know they were humans related to us earthlings on Mars at one time? There is no way he could have come to that conclusion from just the cydonia face."
I have an answer to that, RCH is trying to help push an idea/religion for the group he is connected with.
I agree with you about
"I look at Hoagland and what I see was a 20 year old that came out of nowhere to become the head of some science Museum. Next thing you know he is sitting beside Walter Cronkite on national TV as some space advisor. Now was that just some lucky break or some young guy being in the right place at the right time? I don't think so. Things like that just don't happen from pure luck. Some powerful people were backing him."
One of the fronts was SRI and their connection had deep pockets! ;-)
Hi Anonymous. Ok. I guess this will be lengthy as now I have 2 replies of yours to answer about. Let's begin.
Anonymous said: "MR I'm trying to keep an open mind about this which is easy to do because I am not involved in any way."
MARS REVEALER: Ok. If you say so, it is understood I see your position. ;-)
Anonymous said: "My first impression is you talked about how you made the choice to join RH and his research which you say he took advantage of."
MR: That is not what I said Anonymous! But I understand you think that is your impression. So it is a wrong impression.
Anonymous said... "My question is why did you choose to help him? You have to take responsibility for the choices you make. Were there any clues out there that what happened to you might have been expected? I came to that comclusion and it was a simple thing to do."
MR: I did NOT choose to help him. He wanted me to help him! It was kinda a mutual thing. Now in regard to the Mars research, of course I wanted to help him, as he had me convinced (as many others) that he was serious about Mars & the research going on. So as an independant Mars researcher, of course I wanted to help him. Especially when he made it clear he wanted to help me with other sides to my Mars research, which was a more public venue for the public in bringing them into this amazing research. I was made years ago an honorary member of Enterprise Mission, which was cool, because he seen the value in my work & ideas, plus my dedication to this research. So I thought! :-/
Responsibility for the choices I make?? As if I was & is the one who done something wrong here?? Hey, I was NOT expecting him to be a DICK! Not with being who he is supposed be be & what he represents. I was NOT expecting or thinking he would be something other than what he appeared to me & to all else! I was not expecting to be lied to & be set up!! Sounds like your throwing blame upon me for what all that happened anonymous.
To answer your other question, yes, there were signs that something was not right tween me & him, during those years. Some things made me alerted, but not to the point of being paranoid about it. I was trying to be foucused upon my work & efforts. As much as that is worth to anyone, but to me it was & IS!I just took it I was the one feeling wrong, as I know & knew he was a busy man. Many pressures. So I would not let things bother me much.
To expect all that has happened to me & my family, from when my main issues with him began, was NOT expected at all!!! Especially when he had me & mine CONVINCED he was serious & not about to let anything happen to us. He lied & set us up!
You see Anonymous, to me, all was cool, until I revealed these Faces from UFO DIARIES to Enterprise Mission. Back in June 2006! Then he whoop dee dood! That is when & why all this trouble tween me & him started. I thought it was later actually, but reflecting back, I now see better! I could give all details here, but that would make this replies much longer & much of that anyway, is here on the blog to help show some of that explanation. I aint the one though who has explaining to do!!
It aint a simple conclusion to come to as you did, because he was my friend. He told me he was my best friend. Even called me his son, more than once! So obviously, it was easy at that point to be trusting of him. So that would not have been so simple to conclude as you say. Much more was involved. We were much closer that you tend credit. But I hear what your saying.
ANONYMOUS SAID... "First I knew that there are thousands of people who hang on to Hoagland's every word. In fact he inspired many people into doing their own research. Its almost like some people worship him. So when I came along and knowing all this I was surprised to look at his many websites and all I could find were links to his own websites. No links to the websites of some of the newer people that came into this because of him. That tells me he doesn't care one bit about his fans and the people he himself inspired to follow in his footsteps. He is of no help to any of them and there are many people doing this now. A lot of nice young curious minds out there that I have met."
MARS REVEALER: They may HANG on his every word, as me & my family did! On His WORD, He HUNG us!! Told me even to Hold On His Rope, to Tie a Knot in it, & HANG on!! Looking back now, it was a threat of what he was really trying to do. HANG US!! But covered it with a lie of meaning to help us. Just like people hanging on his every word in speeches, & in articles. They are DEAF!!! For if they really did, they would notice & would have noticed, if they were paying attention to him, that he was trying to get them to look deeper into the things he was saying & outright hinting at something to be seen or gleaned in his words that tells a hidden story, to be found, & even challenges these people to discover it!! That is in nearly everything that he does! I know it is weird, yet so am I! Maybe that is why I see something or some of it?!
He showed impression to others, & to me & mine, that he cared about us! But that was only to secure the Noose around our heads! As already explained! I agree he inspired & still inspires people to do Mars research also. It was not for me to judge who he linked to or not. He linked to me & mine on more than one occasion, so who am I to say anything? But I agree, I feel folks were being left out! But I figured he knew what he was doing. I could not explain it nor would I make excuses for him in not doing so. Because some have complained to me about it as if I had some pull or something to change that. But at least me in my work, I tried to include others & encouraged their participation! As much as that is worth anyway. To me, it counts! because yes, there are many young curious minds out there! By the way, I WAS & STILL AM.... ONE OF THEM!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID... "Quote MR:
"You see anonymous, This is & was No ordinary video documentary! It is a coded masterpiece upon which I am able to see some of it & able to learn things from it of information. INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION being given to us all!"
So by your own statements you say Hoagland did you wrong but then you admit he gave you a masterpiece to work with. In my book that would make it about even between you two. He took and then he gave to you."
MARS REVEALER: I did NOT admit that HE GAVE ME THIS!!! He did NOT! I brought this forth. NOT HIM to be discussed & dealt with! I think that someone else... Gave me & gave us all this masterpiece bizzarre puzzle, that which this information comes from. That Super Hoagy there did NOT want us all to see or know, much less ask serious questions about it! Your book is worng I am sorry to say. EVEN???? No way! I aint even close to getting EVEN with him... YET!!
He tried to prevent me & not wanted me to pursue this. Once I started to see this CODE underneath the surface. because he noticed I seen it followed a breadcrumb trail.... TO HIM! To something that bothered him, that made him change his mind about me investigating into this! Again, more can be said.
HE TOOK... NOT GAVE!! What he took from me & mine, I want payback for! He has NOT tried to fix anything he broken!! So please read another BOOK Anonymous. Because we are NOT even! Not even close! cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID... "Here is my theory. Hoagland wants to get some of this information out but the "powers that be" are watching him very closely."
MARS REVEALER: Interesting theory. However, forgive me please when I say WHO GIVES A SHIT?? From my family & my perspective, what does that have to do with us & what he did to us? That would make it ok for us to go with that potential fact you bring up?? The way I see it Now he has yet another unknown factor to worry about! Based upon things he said & done to make it that way!! To PREVENT US FROM SEEING, OR ASKING, OR BELIEVING... A CODE EVEN EXISTS! Or even these Faces. No Anonymous... He took from us... NOT GAVE!!! I want payback!!
ANONYMOUS SAID... "So he knows you are the only one smart enough to break the code if he puts it out in coded form. So he picks a fight with you to fool the people that control him."
MARS REVEALER: Yeah Rite!! I aint so sure about that! This code implies I am the MOST Reachable. (Hope meant in terms of this code message) That implies that others too, can be reached! But maybe not as much as me? He did more than pick a fight tween me & him. I will say the people he intened to fool, if your theory is correct,... Were NOT fooled! As it is THEY apparently, who encoded this information maybe as an extra bonus to be gleaned? Something that maybe slipped by Super Hoagy there way back when?? I know not! Nor do I care! Ya see, OUR TEAM, or OUR OWN, is a group, that this code claims, That Super Hoagy there, again, is a MEMBER OF OUR TEAM! To me, it is they, who gave me this info, (even implied is actual Martians that helped create this THING!) Maybe it was for me to use it against him, which was why he did what he did to me, because he was worried I would DIS-COVER who he really is??
He thought very little of me as a friend if he thought I would fuck him over like that. It would not have been intentional anyway. But this code is strange. It is meant to do things! Time was seen through or even crossed in helping to create it! That I am convinced of. The producer even clarified that enough in things he said to me in regards to a CODE in UFO DIARIES! I am sure you heard his comments by now?!
ANONYMOUS said... "Now he waits for you or someone as smart as you to break the code to his leaked information. When that happens then he can point to the fact that you hate him and hold a grudge against him so why would he leak you anything?"
MARS REVEALER: Well, I do not know what to say. Either way it spells out he fucked me over! I for one wanna state AGAIN... I DO NOT HATE HIM! I did say in an earlier post & in more than one venue that I still love the Ol Koot! Remember, he was like a dad to me in ways, & my BEST FRIEND in others! I am pissed at him & want payback to show him that what he did to me & my family cannot & WILL NOT GO WITHOUT GETTIN PAYBACK! He is a mighty person. Who the fuck am I??? Ya know??? That made me even more wanting to pursue him to make him suffer as he made me & mine suffer. WHICH BY THE WAY, WE ARE STILL SUFFERING from all that!!! So a grudge is an understatement! Either way as you spell it Anonymous, he is not nor was NOT wanting me to glean anything, let alone bring his leaked info forth! This aint about that to me. It is only but a part of what my efforts now are to make him see & understand, that he fucked with the wrong guy, & the wrong family!!! You see, the way I see it, if he does have leaked infoz to give via this code, he was NOT & does NOT want anyone but himself to be the one to show it? If ever he really wants to that is! he speaks alotta shit! He wants his Face to be the only Face of Mars, in more ways than one!! That gives me a target range! Amongst... others, for me to utilize to swoop him over!!
ANONYMOUS SAID... "They are convinced and Hoagland is safe from their wrath and you have the Mars Holy Grail in the palm of your hands."
MARS REVEALER: 'They' meaning his OUR OWN TEAM-MEMBERS that are watching him? They are convinced?? Ha ha ha! Again, I think NOT!! They seen & KNOW what he did to me! I am convinced now of that! Hoagland is lying to them & playing them also it seems. Again, WHO GIVES A SHIT??? That does NOT over ride the importance of me & my family & what he did to us & what we are still suffering from because of his actions to us! It seems no matter what I seen anyway, again, he did not nor does not want me or anyone else to bring forth anything! He thinks he is smarter than his own Team! If they do believe in him, then sad to say, they deserve what they get! But my impression is they are aware, & that Hoagland deserves what he gets! See the twist here? ;-)
Now regards to me having the HOLY GRAIL of Mars in the palm Of My Hands?? What is that?? Ha ha ha!!! That DICK Hoagland??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ok.. seriousness now... If you mean this code? Then so what???? That does NOT change what he did to me or mine & what we are still going through & suffering because of that. What am I to do with it? Especially when most do not believe me anyway??? I NEED THESE PICTURES TO PROVE SOME OF THAT!!! He has them... & I want them!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID... "It seems strange that you hate him but yet he gave you something of great important value. No offense but you come off as an ingrate."
MARS REVEALER: Again, I do NOT hate him! But he does deserve my foot breakin off in his ass! I am also considering very much value of what he gave me & my family all right!!! That is what this is all about! For my issues with him that is. Which again, he will nOT fix what he broken! So who is the ingrate here really? It aint me!!! I just want him to do what is right by me & mine, & fix things!
ANONYMOUS SAID: "Seems to me there are only two possibilities here. Either you know thats what happened and this grudge against Hoagland is just a show on your part to protect him from the real powers or you didn't figure that out and are smart enough to break the code but not smart enough to figure out why it had to be done this way which to me would be the easiest part to figure out."
MARS REVEALER: Look Anonymous, I am not stupid, & of course I have contemplated that my actions in a way might be beneficial to him of some kind. Of what I could not figure. My grudge is real against him, & I know also that my actions (because of his actions) will also lead me to hurt him as well. As he hurt me & mine & we cannot get out of the mess he caused much to put us in!
Also, if it is the code they are worried about, then wouldn't I be an enemy?? Why would they be concerned with Super Hoagy,... When someone... Has a Holy Grail in the palm of his hand? As you yourself says. Ya know what is funny? I did a MR Show Mysterious Pictures where Hoagland even says that what I am dealing with is a Holy Grail! Hmmmm. I also like to state that I would be a threat it seems to the powers that be?! Yet no one is concerned about me & mine? So why focus on Super Hoagy??? Hoagland was serious before we had a falling out when he said 3 times & made me aware he was serious, that I was John Connor! He would not elaborate. But wanted me to know he was serious & telling me the matrix is very real! So I figure if he was serious, which he was, then I am a threat to someone. I do not know the veracity of such as again, WHO AM I?? I aint a Super Hoagy! I am just someone who wanted & still wants answers, some mysterious picture data, some vindication, my work & show back,.. & most of all.... PAYBACK!!! Because he did not do to me out of LOVE Anonymous! He did lies & deception & a hatred of me to hurt me & mine! If what he did was to cover his own ass, he did NOT give me anything to show or help me recover from those blows. He hated me & my work & my show! That is clear now! He has made me an enemy who will NOT stop until he realizes what he had done & that the monster that I am now.... HE CREATED!! Again, because he did NOT want us to see or know anything! Because it seems there was more to this code than what he originally had thought!
Look, he can still fix this. I never said he had no chances! But he must do so to set things right! because I am NOT gonna stop. One day soon he will realize that & may then wish to do so. By then it will be too late for him to do so!
I did NOT create this fucking code nor it's video, nor was it me who placed these faces of Mars images to that Cydonia SUN-SET!!!!
But I will state that this code seemed to imply, it has seen the one whom will bring it forth?! Even the screenwriter Lee Shackleford stated that WE HAD TO INVENT A CHARECTAR WHO'S GUESSING! Geee.. I wonder who the fuck that can be?? ;-)
To me, this code, this video, these images of Faces of Mars would NOT be seen at all, if SOMEONE WITH POWER... Did NOT want us to see these things! Again, I did NOT create the fucking THING!
So in a way, to me, I see something given unto me to use as a weapon against Super heros! Or against... VILLANS!!! How much of the Code can I see into?? John Connor would NOT give such infoz away... Nor shall I!
The creators of this show I already had on the record. saying cryptic & now connecting things, I did not get or see then. However, they were clear... These images came from NASA & HOAGLAND! THERE YOU ARE!! ONE OF HIMS GONNA SAY YEAH... THOSE ARE.... OURS!!!!
But contemplate this, as you yopurself say, that Hoagland aint here to defend himself. Notice also the one yet to rebutt on the record what has been alleged by his own TEAM MEMBERS, is yet to appear to defend himself on the record about this,.. is SUPER HOAGY HIMSELF???
Now Look at it like this, why would these guys from the show come on & tell us truths, & yet at the same time many think Hoagland is innocent?? What happens to a person who has to appear to court, where WITNESSES show up & testify against the one needed to show up, & then that person does not appear to the court??? What happens then?? Whose case becomes strengthened?? In the eyes of the court, or in this case, the court of public opinion!?!
Why would they come forth if they did not want us to see or know anything, & yet tell so very much!!?? The one that I see & feel is most threatened by this code, or me even,.. is NOT them of the POWER, But Super Hoagy himself who is most threatened!! yet a coincidence it is ay?? When seeing & knowing what he did to me & mine to prevent me from pursuing this THING & it's informations that he is obvious, does NOT want to come out?!
Why would the creators themselves want to provide me with information that I admit was used & helped me be able to solidify what I was seeing? It even brought me to brighter LIGHT in understanding this code! To see it better even. Now, if they are the enemy, why would they give me such a powerful tool or weapon that would help me build this structure, this ARTIFACT! This code shown me & told me that he would NOT appear to his summons to appear! It also went into detail, as like in a real court, of what would happen if a person did not appear to their hearing. A warrant of arest will be issued. The arrest described is a cardiac arrest, for it implicated this arrest shall cause his chest to be cracked open & hunreds will appear to his funeral! yeah... Talk about spooky shit! BUT... I TOLD HIM THAT LONG AGO & he blew it off as people telling NONSENSE to me! I CARED & CARE FOR HIM! That is why I told him that. Plus he was wanting reports on things I was finding.
But what this is now, is what needs to be done! Code or no code. Spooks or no spooks. Powers that be or no powers that be. I want & will get payback from him! One way or another!
It seems in the past he fucked with his team, they fucked with him. He fucked with me, & now... well ya know where this is going. ;-)
I want my life back & all promised from that Buttress. Of which he taken from us! This is personal & very open as I will not sit or stand or suffer by continuing to let him be worshipped as a great God when he is a liar & a fraud to the public that worships him! Yet me & my family are doomed to suffer from what he caused for us! As well as for the Enterprise Mission people & all thinking he is of the truth... of the light! yt he is a deceiver playing a fiddle that many sheeeple are following that pied piper.
yet I do admit, he still hints at things beneath the things he says & connects to this code I SEE! But I do not think he likes to allude to such things because he is the one who not really wants anyone to see or solve it! I think his TEAM wants us all to see & solve it! Am I worng?? Then if his life was or is in danger & him being super Hoagy & all, then why am I still alive??? Come fuckin kill me already, cause that is the only thing that will stop me. if I cannot be myself, do my work, be who I am... Why live??? This is bigger than myself or my family. Threaten them?? make me madder go ahead! Take them from me, better kill me also cause If I get my hands around your throat, all their team will NOT be able to pry me loose before I snap your neck! If I am John Connor, it gives me reason to win the war all the more!! Or DIE TRYING!!!
I did NOT deserve this, nor did or do they! Again I id NOT make this fucking code or it's videos, nor was it I who had connection to these secret 'Old yet New' Faces of Mars THEY WANTED US ALL TO SEE ON THE SURFACE NO LESS!!! Sheeesh!
ANONYMOUS SAID: "MR there is nothing I know about him to defend. I have never spoken to the man and have never worked with him. Everything I am saying here is just my theories and what you say and what I know about him as a public figure. If I were here to defend him I would not have said he does not help out others who decided to follow in his footsteps."
MARS REVEALER: Well, your doing a grand job for him nonetheless in defensive tactics in my opinion. Trying to make subtle excuses as to reasons why he may have done me & mine the way he did & shit. No offence, I do not buy it nor do I care. It is a fight this is now. It does not matter his reasons anymore does it??? None of those reasons excuses his actions or his needed to be pursued by me to pay him back! If anything, his TEAM is the ones who placed into place the means to OUT HIM to us all. Think about that! if he is scared of them, & they maybe, just maybe, are helping me, or at least he thinks they have, then what a threat Hoagland must feel from me & should well be worried!?
As I said, come KILL ME!! I would have done that myself way back when, but I was too important he says. In some ways, much of that is what & when this all started. So KILL me! I aint gonna go down without this fight! That Rich bastard needs to learn some things about true friends. He needs to learn that humans are important! Not just to be treated as he treats them & his only care (in his own words) is how important it is that people see a weathy man in his work. As if that is what people most care about! Only his rich scumbag snob nosed cocksuckers who are all fake anyway to the rest of the public. Because it is they who are milking the public in this research, that makes them feel so important & gives them the right to be the say. NOT ON MY WATCH!! If I have my way, I am going to crumble that facade & expose it what it truly is. Look who also that road leads to in order to do that?? Because he is the biggest DICK in the market controlling & spinnning it for the others!!
yeah... coincidence it was I was to see this code ay??? Coincidence it was to have me find this?? Coincidence it was to have me being the one to pursue him because most & nearly all else are PUSSIES & FAKE TO THEIR SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH????
They all have NO BALLS!! None ask or openly question him regarding this investigation that he again, openly encouraged NOT only me, but all else as well to do the serious legwork to get him the information so he can get us the important infoz to all that shit!!
ANONYMOUS SAID: "If I am guilty of anything its trying to be fair to him considering he is not here to defend his side. Doesn't mean I think he is innocent but on the other hand I cannot be fair if I come at this like you are innocent either. I'm just trying to make some sense of it."
MARS REVEALER: Yes... being fair to him while wanting to TRY to make me see a different path to make it all ok in what he did to me & MINE!! SCREW THAT SHIT! Make your sense of it yet does it really matter?? I & MY FAMILY ARE THE IMPORTANT ONES THIS CONCERNS!!! As he did what he did to US... NOT YOU!! You have NO IDEA what we are still going through stemmed from all that! Nothing you can or will say will change my mind about paying him back. Since again, he will NOT fix things!! Which again, he can. I gotten no calls from him. He knows my number. He did in secrecy to me & mine, now I openly chase him, & will catch him.... & you can figure out the rest when an animal reaches it's prey!!!
As we were his prey. Only a miracle possibly, or with some HELP, were we able to hang on a thread, & now make him MINE!!!
So please make some sense out of that, as I am sure I am making sense. & Now I have plenty of sense, enough anyway to be able to reach my prey!
ANONYMOUS SAID: "Quote MR: "He wanted to run warp speed away from this code & investigation! After encouraging me no less!"
If someone was looking over his shoulders wouldn't that be the way he should act? He encourages you and then when he knows you recognised the code he runs in order to fool his "handlers" into thinking he did not give that stuff to you on purpose. I mean he couldn't just come right out in public and hand you information he knows could get him killed by the "powers that be" could he?"
MARS REVEALER: By destroying my life & trying to destory my family? By trying to have me committed? By smear campaigning me? By banning me from Enterprise as if a person with shame when he is only trying to prevent his shame from being seen?? By using lies & deception & insulting bribes to try to stop me from investigating?? That is how he should act ay?? yet NOT fixing what he broken to cover the shit he did to have to do that???? Like a real friend would. Thank God he aint my dad, cause only goes to show what he would do to his own son if I were his real son!
Again though, regards to the powers that be?? WHO GIVES A SHIT??? He handled me... Now he is gonna be handled in more ways than one!!Again, he NOT gave me the fucking code! he was wanting me to stop looking into it & was working to prevent me from discovering it! NOT encouraging it! he only said that on the surface, along with other cryptic things mind you, & just to look like he was looking into it seriously for benefit of all who were watching!! Now he needs to worry about ME! This primative can be very resourceful & trust me... I will NOT stop or relent in my pursuit to destroy him. His legacy will be one of shame & condemnation. NOT FAME!! Unless, he wants this all to stop?? Then he can fix.
I do want this shit to stop I admit & always stated. It is ugly & will get more ugly especially for him by the time I am through with him. I aint no silver spoon fed pussy from the prairie. He fucked with a street punk from New York & we fight our brawls! Win or lose!
If I were the real threat, I'd already been dead! I aint scared of Super Hoagy or his team. Who am I to be a threat to them? Only one of their team I want & will get!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "anyways this is what I'm getting so far. He treated you like crap.........then you started treating him like crap as revenge."
MARS REVEALER: Treating like crap is the minimal that has happened your not using your imagination as to what is going to happen in my efforts to him. ;-)
My revenge is only just beginning!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Then you got something of great value in those codes because of him. Seems like you got the best of this deal."
MARS REVEALER: Because of HIM??? or because of something or someone else in this code he not realized that also wanted me to see more into the things he did to me & it seems, to them as well?!
Great value in what?? trying to speak about what should be impossible & have no one believe you or think about what it is?? Great value that I have no value to make anything become more value to all & not just myself regarding this THING??? A great value to have been fucked over & nearly destroyed because of that value he not greatly wanted to be seen by others??? What is the great value you speak of Anonymous?? It alludes me.
I got the best of the deal ya think ay? Hmmmm. That is why he is makin thousands of dollars, living in a nice big house, has a car, eats very well, sleeps comfortably at night, vcan pay his bills, can do his so called serious Mars research (what a crock a shit) & have internet & become a GOD??? Yeah.. he seems to have the best of the deal, for I have NONE OF THOSE THINGS! WHICH IS WHAT HE PROMISED & TOOK AWAY & TRIED TO DESTROY OF ME & MINE!!!
Seems you are wanting me to sit by & allow him to continue being the DICK & me being ok with it & not do anything to hurt him. if so, your sadly mistaken. NOT just you anonymous, I appreciate your replies. But my message goes out to all that hath ears to hear & hath eyes to see! THIS IS WAR!!!!
I value the things I learned in this code because I was taught several things about many things in dealing & trying to see & solve this code. One is a detective, one is an archeologist, one is a law clerk, one is someone who is trying to decipher a language & figure it out, one is someone who i told I am a primative being that would someday become a human being! If that does not sound like someone being given an education, that I know not what does! But why educate your enemy that may pose a threat??? Especially in the SENSE,.. of being JOHN CONNOR????
I am in a fight because of this DEAL! That he broke NOT just to me either, but also to Chuck Sellier who was pissed Hoagland not had me working(which is what Hoagland told him) & yelled that HE THOUGHT WE HAD A DEAL??? As if I was aware of a deal tween him & super Hoagy that may be more than what was thought by me!! Make no mistake, he was pissed off at that Buttress!!
Somethings tell me it aint the 1st time. :-/ cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID... "Not sure what the point is to continue this grudge when you came out on top."
MARS REVEALER: Ha ha HA. Ya know another funny thing. (one needs a sense of humor) In this code it alludes to the fact that Hoagland is the TOP, & I am the BOTTOM, Him being the Older, & me being the younger. Now follow me here! It states that I needed to re-orient myself! That implies this code KNOWS he was on top... of me. HE WAS FUCKING ME!!! So I was hinted I needed to re-orient myself, to be the one on TOP! Now I am gonna fuck Him!!! The code then alludes that he deserves to be graciously retired. Graciously?? NOT IF I CAN HELP IT!!!
But let us look at it in the sense I am sure your applying here. How did I come out on top??? I really want an answer. Me & Mine are SUFFERING STILL.... POOR ASS BROKE, NO CAR, LIVING IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE IN 'OUR OWN'S BACKYARD (Cheyenne Mountain area) in what I compare to be a fucking reservation with no hope & a dead end street literally & figuratively! No work, No internet, No radio show, no Job with him working for him as he swore & made us believe. No ways to buy anything.
Now, in what scenario you think I come out on top in this Anonymous?? Unless you overlook me & my families needs & concerns to live & have a life & me doing my important SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH??? Either way, seems like your spelling out to me to accept it & allow him that did this to us to go in peace??? I am an AMERICAN 1ST OFF! I aint from Crapistan or from those slimy chinks in China!! I have rights. It also is apparent that this code alludes also to them caring about my CIVIL RIGHTS THAT DICK HOAGLAND VIOLATED OF ME!!! Maybe that is why I sense maybe a bit of help in wanting me to see some things?? I know not. Again who am I? I NOT wanted to fuck with anybody nor hurt anybody. I do now, & He is a BIG DICK much deserving what he has coming in more ways than one!!! It is just how it is. UNLESS HE FIXES THINGS. Which he aint! I have 3 years under my belt in this crazy ass investigation from the twilight zone! many strange things have happened. Yet I am gonna nonetheless pursue him & get my revenge!! Because if not me... then who???
My family deserves to have someone defend & fight for us. No one cares, so it is up to me. He will suffer! I promise! 3 years of built up anger & suffering. We will see who comes out on top!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "why not just wipe the slate clean and get on with your Mars research and if you still don't trust Hoagland then don't work with him and go your own seperate way with your reaearch?"
MARS REVEALER: It aint me who has to wipe it clean! This is HIS SHIT he created, so he needs to squeeze the Charmin 1st!! Again, I am open to him fixing things! But he not wants to, or I would already would have had a call from him & some serious moves on his part to prove he wants things fixed & slates clean!
My work with Mars research & the show is broken. If I had the means, I would have probably cleaned that slate myself long ago!! I do not have what he has to get things done. He needs to fix that as well!
But anything I can use or take as advantage to use to be able to pursue him & culminate to what is gonna happen, I am using & will use all I can to make him suffer, as he did to me & mine! ESPECIALLY.... THIS CODE!!!
As I said, I want payback!! That took actions to put us where we are, & it will take actions by him, to get us out of this SHIT HE NEEDS TO WIPE!!!
Then maybe I will be more understanding & at a level where I can care for his situations. Till then... WHO GIVES A SHIT???? We did not deserve this living hell. Payback time is coming!!!
So think or believe what you will Anonymous. I cannot tell you who or what to believe.
But again, you do not see him defending himself neither do ya??
I was NOT his enemy, nor was I wanting to be his his enamy! He made me one, because he obviously felt I was his enemy to begin with!! Keep your friends close,... Your enemies closer. Get it yet??? That is how it must have been for him regarding me. :-(
So call me what you will. It not matters anymore. But to him, it will matter very much. I promise!
I demand payback!! How that comes is up to him!! Then I will go my own way!
I understand if you do not write back. After all, he is the GOD to follow... right? :-/
I still would love to know more about YOUR research. Maybe we would have gotten along better in our coversations so that we understand each other with respect for each of our views?! I am a visionary... Not a DICK!
Man that was a long read MR but it helped me to understand this situation much better. You added a few important facts that fit right into the puzzle. I am convinced now that my first impression was correct but I got a few details wrong.
Quote MR: "By destroying my life & trying to destroy my family? By trying to have me committed? By smear campaigning me? By banning me from Enterprise as if a person with shame when he is only trying to prevent his shame from being seen??"
When I read that I thought "BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I know you are probably going to disagree with me but hear me out. Lets consider the facts.
Hoagland was set up to be in charge of a science Museum when he was 19 years old.....fact
Shortly after he found himself with Walter Cronkite on National TV........fact
His Co-author Mike Bara always says on his blog that he works for the "military Industial Complex".......fact....hidden in plain site
How many people do you know that get the ladder to success greased like that? I don't know of anyone. There must have been big powers and connected people backing him.
The illuminati or the NWO or whoever you call the powers behind the scenes are always hidden. The people like Hoagland that get all the air time are front people for these powers. They have to do what they are told no matter what they think about it.
Now we get to the people that you think are the "good guys". The people that put the code to Mars in that TV program.
Quote MR: "Why would the creators themselves want to provide me with information that I admit was used & helped me be able to solidify what I was seeing? It even brought me to brighter LIGHT in understanding this code! To see it better even. Now, if they are the enemy, why would they give me such a powerful tool or weapon that would help me build this structure, this ARTIFACT! Now Look at it like this, why would these guys from the show come on & tell us truths, & yet at the same time many think Hoagland is innocent??"
Ah.....why indeed? I'm guessing you do not get into studying the illuminati. The answer to your question is basic Illuminati !01 study.
The Universal law or the law of the creator that overrides everything is "free will". That is why satan or any evil entity can never do anything unless they reveal it.
The "rules" that TPTB/Illuminati/Satanists have to play by is that they have to somehow reveal their plans. Hidden in plain sight, as it were. I think it was the late Bill Cooper who likened it to how blueprints are laid out for the public to see before a building is built. LETTING THE MASSES KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. If its their free will to ignore the warning than so be it.
So in order for them to do their evil they have to reveal it somehow. Normally it is done in Hollywood in the movies but its also common to do it on TV. Its to their benefit that someone figures it out but that no one believes them. So whoever figures it out has to be discredited, bashed and ruined.
Hoagland had no choice. He had to do the TV show knowing he would have to destroy whoever figured the code out. Never in a million years did he figure his good friend MR would be that person. But to his horror that is exactly what happened. Hoagland knew damn well what that meant and did everything in his power to talk you out of going any deeper with your research but you would have none of it, knowing how important it was. There was nothing else he could do, without sacrificing himself. There is no way he could come right out and tell you what kind of danger you were getting into.
Quote MR: "But anything I can use or take as advantage to use to be able to pursue him & culminate to what is gonna happen, I am using & will use all I can to make him suffer, as he did to me & mine! ESPECIALLY.... THIS CODE!!!"
That is exactly what the people that put that code in the show want you to do to prove that you are a stalker....that you have flipped out.....that you are unstable....that you are dangerous and nothing you say can be believed....especially what you say about the "code". Why would you do exactly what they want you to do? I'm guessing Hoagland is just their front man and is expendable. You have already done what they needed done. You fullfilled their commitment to the Universal laws of free will and the code is out there but no one sees it except you....the guy they hope self destructs. Just what they wanted.....all according to plan.
You are from New York? Time to act like it........get your head together and quit letting them pull your strings like a puppet.....if they can do it to a street smart New Yorker then the rest of us have no hope.
ANONYMOUS said:... "Hoagland was set up to be in charge of a science Museum when he was 19 years old.....fact
Shortly after he found himself with Walter Cronkite on National TV........fact
His Co-author Mike Bara always says on his blog that he works for the "military Industial Complex".......fact....hidden in plain site."
MARS REVEALER: Well, great for him! Again, I do not give a shit! At least he had a life. As for Bara, I also suspected him being something ELSE as I have heard him say that also. But as long as he not pissed on my leg, & did not tread on me, whateva. Ya know? He was not tween me & Hoagland's relationship. I have had him on the MR Show a few times in the past as well.
You said... "How many people do you know that get the ladder to success greased like that? I don't know of anyone. There must have been big powers and connected people backing him."
MARS REVEALER: Obviously Anonymous. It would have been nice if it was because people believed in their integrity, vision, or their research alone. But what is that worth anymore right?? But yes, it is easy to conceive agenda driven folk being responsible for those things.
ANONYMOUS said: "The illuminati or the NWO or whoever you call the powers behind the scenes are always hidden. The people like Hoagland that get all the air time are front people for these powers. They have to do what they are told no matter what they think about it."
MARS REVEALER: oK. That is something I have been hearing for some time now, that he is a FRONT BOY. For what?? Maybe what you said. I am trying to figure out where your trying to take me with all this. But I am following.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Now we get to the people that you think are the "good guys". The people that put the code to Mars in that TV program."
MARS REVEALER: I think they are the good guys ay? Hmmmm. The People that put that code to Mars in that Ufo Diaries program, I think are the good guys? I have not yet determined such. I admit I was hoping. ;-) But I am convinced information is being transmitted, as it were. As it is they it seems, who seem to be doing most of the talking!
However, again I will state that this code implies NOT Just people, were behind designing & creating this code. But actual MARTIANS! The other side of the coin seems to be secret Intelligence from Earth. I have no reason to discount either side, as it is they who again, it seems is doing the talking in many instances of FACES, or FACETS of understanding. In the latest New MR Show 'PAINTING' I am doing, of Hoagland's Moon Mars Connection back from 94, (I caall A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM REVISITED) this is also kinda confirming of what I see as Martians & Secret Intelligence being responsible! That show will have 8 video parts!!
As for Chuck Sellier & Lee Shackleford being the good guys?? Well, I will say that Their information has been rather incredible & VERY CONNECTING! Very HELPFUL also. Now again, I have to state, that in a court of law, if 2 witnesses appears for someone's HEARING, (Dick Hoagland's & The FACES OF MARS) & they testify with things to say about him that implicates & outright suggest so much against him, & he fails to appear to rebutt those witnesses?? Ummmm, what then happens?? In a court of law, to whom does the weight of evidence support? Hoagland?? Or the 2 witnesses???? Especially if WE THE PEOPLE, ARE THE JURY?! They also said they scripted the words themselves. Chuck was mastermind, as Shackleford stated that Chuck knows what he is doing, & is into making things with stuffs to be seen behind the surface of the things we can see. To make us all wonder! He's always enjoyed doing things like that he said! cont...
I will also mention that Chuck has helped me & my family in ways I will NOT mention of here, & he knows how I feel. As a matter of fact, he was pissed off because Hoagland broke the deal. Hoagland lied to him as well, regarding my JOB & what hoagland was going to do regards to me & the MR Show!
I will just say it seemed clear that Chuck did not want me falling! HE CARED!! I will only say that much! He actually is an awesome guy! This all is so fucking weird!!!! NONE OF THIS SHOULD HAVE EVEN HAPPENED OR BE HAPPENING!!
Hoagland tried the same aspect angle your trying to come from I think. Again, like him, it seems the Blame is being thrown to the creators, yet they have appeared & testified as it were! As weird as all that shit is I admit, it nonetheless is a form of testimony! Who can deny their words as truth? Who can say they are the liars??? Who indeed??? But that DICK Hoagland himself to rebutt! As he was the one addressed & implicated, & finger pointed by them, by this code, & other weird twilight zone shit on the net that seems to imply much more to this than a mere video documentary! Plus, add to the perponderance of evidence, to Dick Hoagland himself now in what can be implicated as added evidence that I stumbled across something that was meant to UN-MAN HIM!! TO DIS-COVER HIM!!! As an Operative, working for & in support of (as a Buttress...I know kinda funny, but LOOK IT UP!!) for the larger group/structure, called OUR OWN... OR OUR TEAM!
So in essence, the creators who testified already, are thus implicated at as being OUR TEAM! As Chuck told me Hoagland worked for him for many years! Not to mention the Masonic imprints to Chuck's words to me, that then, I had no idea of. For instance, Chuck said his day always begins at 3:30 in the morning, & that is when, & AT the exact time he was speaking to me then. Literally, & in code! This was coded also in things he said to me.
He was talking to me in my understanding now, that I think I can describe, was in another language of being called 33?! He even said 3 reasons why it IS POSSIBLE, THAT IT DOES NOT SOUND A LITTLE NUTS, THAT A CODE EXISTS is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE!!! One of which by the way, IMPLICATED SOMETHING SENT DOWN THROUGH.... TIME!!! ON PURPOSE!!! Something we needed to know!! That fit on the head with my findings & theory that TIME is a major player in this THING created! Plus no coincidence with me finding it!
I am telling you this because there is much to this all I have yet to put together! The investigation has not ended per say, it is stalled in many ways because of what has been done to me & what is being done to me! That is why also this fight RAGES ON! Let us not forget that now!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Quote MR: "Why would the creators themselves want to provide me with information that I admit was used & helped me be able to solidify what I was seeing? It even brought me to brighter LIGHT in understanding this code! To see it better even. Now, if they are the enemy, why would they give me such a powerful tool or weapon that would help me build this structure, this ARTIFACT! Now Look at it like this, why would these guys from the show come on & tell us truths, & yet at the same time many think Hoagland is innocent??"
Ah.....why indeed? I'm guessing you do not get into studying the illuminati. The answer to your question is basic Illuminati !01 study."
MARS REVEALER: As far as I can tell, from me being the principal Investigator into this (I think I can claim,...), that from that point of view, & as one being a bit of a detective in this CASE, as well as part of the Jury hearing this case, as well as a VICTIM because of this CASE, I have to assume no fault of the Creators per say! On behalf of Hoagland appearing or not I mean, & what was stated by them, that Hoagland did not want anyone to see or know about his connection to them, these images, & deliberately lied & plotted to hurt me. Hoagland was more than welcomed to appear with us together. You should have heard what Lee Shackleford stated by now.
To them it is clear as well as described & attributed in this code, that Hoagland is a monkey wrench in some gears that are supposed to be turning. For good or for bad is still really to be determined. I am sure both sides have their story. More study is needed of that hypothesis to some extent! In my opinion, he was supposed to address these images & be seen in connection to them & with them way back when, & HE DID NOT WISH TO! To me, it seems he is still being asked to connect himself to this all in the future, since he did not wish to in the past?!
Now, I am to assume, that this is HIS TEAM,.. being a MEMBER OF... 'OUR OWN, OUR TEAM'! That it is they who are doing the talking. As Secret Intelligence, & being even as THE MARTIANS?? Again, that new show I am doing kinda explains & connects that! ;-) Therfore when Hoagland on the surface of Ufo Diaries says "AND SOMEDAY, WE MAY DISCOVER, THAT WE.... WERE THE MARTIANS AFTER ALL???!!!" Then he says... "AND NOW, WE ARE RE-DISCOVERING 'OUR' HERITAGE, OF WHAT WE ONCE WERE?!" Ha ha ha.
To me, this is obvious of what he is alluding to. But as I learned, around every FACE, there is a FACET! Of which some of is still in OPERATION! Ay Super Hoagy?
Let me clarify a bit more on how I see this because of what we are to assume. These images as I am to assume, were also LAW! An OLD LAW! Of secrecy! These images being seen represent a dawn of a new day! That is why it is encoded on the Cydonia... SUN-SET!! or sun-rise determining what facet you wish to attribute. The sun set can represent the NIGHT, or the darkness of the world they once lived in?!
Follow me here a minute please. Again, being seen now, as a sun-rise, for dawn of a new day, whereas these old laws, being connected to these images, are of the darkness & now, being shown as NEW LAWS?? Connecting these images to a new world? To the Earth??!! The dawn of a new day would then indeed be upon us all as the MARTIAN REVELATION. Wouldn't it? ;-)
So in essence, these new laws over ride & make obsolete the old laws that once attributed for them. Thus, connections to them, are no longer shielded from them as well, as also being considered as OLD LAWS??
Now in a court of law, again, reflecting back upon Chuck Sellier's words, of who they got these images from, or in the least, placed direct connection to them, WAS that Dick Hoagland!!! Therfore, I think a facet to see here is that we are being told, as well as hOAGLAND, that he being apart of the OLD LAWS, ARE NOW... OBSOLETE??? No longer shielded??? No protective domes overhead anymore of that Moon Of Mars ay??!! :-/ cont..
So. I am seeing much deeply into these things. But it is clear to me at least, in this code, someone really wants him to say "YES, THOSE ARE OURS!! YES,... I AM A MEMBER OF 'OUR TEAM'!!! YES... I AM A... BUTTRESS!!! I AM THE BIG DICK HEAD OF MARS! I AM THE AMERICAN AUTHORITY WHO IS SABOTAGING EFFORTS TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH! YES,... I SAY TO STOP INVESTIGATING FUTHER INTO MYSTERIOUS PICTURES! YES... I DO SAY THEY ARE EVIDENCE OF INTELLIGENT LIFE!!! OF WHICH I AM NOW REDISCOVERING MY HERITAGE... OF WHAT... WE.... ONCE.... WERE!!!!!
"YES, YOU HAVE DISCOVERED CORRECTLY! WE WERE THE MARTIANS TO THIS CODE!! THE UNKNOWN INTELLIGENT RACE ON MARS,... WHERE SURELY.... NO INTELLIGENT LIFE COULD SURVIVE THERE???!!! TAAAA DAAAAAAA!!!!!
Again Anonymous, but frankly the Illuminati whatever you said it was or is,... (how do you KNOW the Illuminati are responsible for this code or vid?) They Kinda ILLUMINED THE SCENE to tell us something we needed to know. I know one thing, I sure as fuck needed to know, as I was Hoagland's VICTIM!!! Now to me, it would have been to my disadvantage to not know more about him. Or about what he did. IT provided me with that info. My issue I have is NOT the bitch fight goin on, though it OBVIOUSLY BOTHERS ME, it is the CODE! The fact that something is happening because of this THING, that it is something at all is hard to imagine. But experiencing this 1st hand & seeing it as a coded message in TIME, that morphs now mind you! Hard to explain. I believe something called A LOOKING GLASS??,... or something or other was used in creating this THING!? Some form or type of ability to see through time, or to use time to manipulate circumstances. Maybe on posssible futures or outcomes etc. The power of GOD stuffs I am talking about here!
Again, it is NO coincidence at all I am certain, that I was the one to see & deal with this. To what extent or to what means this all?? I know not & will not say more of my feelings on that. As it is really still to be determined. BUT I HAVE A FUCKING MONKEY WRENCH IN THIS MACHINE NOW where by coincidence & TIMING, All leads point strait at Super Hoagy there! Remember, I am going at this more as an investigator. I followed the data, I followed & used my leads to build this case, sorry to say is against him. But I feel that so much more is to be seen & continue on once this PLUG is pulled from the pipes of flow of information we are to have from this THING!!!
THAT IS MY POINT!! THEIRS AS WELL IT SEEMS!?
Illuminati 101 I cannot say nor am I sure I wanna know. I am a SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHER! That is part of MY VISION of space for our country & even the world. It aint my fault I CAUGHT THIS BALL! It aint my fault I defy any & all who wishes me ill & harm because of my search for the truth! This is NOT just about ME! Though obviously anonymous, I have to admit & accept, that a KEEN EYE is watching me also! Like what can I do?? Who am I?
I did not create this THING or place it's images up. No.. this was surely all meant to be seen & studied! No doubts in my mind about that at all!!!
I am only trying to piece together a case that has been building since the investigation began. Instead of getting results positive for us by getting our hands & links to these actual images to the PUBLIC these new laws are supposed to go to,... Instead a monkey wrench... stands in the way!
That is NOT my fault! Is it my fault I chose BALLS over fear of harm or suffering because I have to be true to myself & stick through this investigation??? Then Guilty as charged that you would think that a wrong thing to do, for a man to stand up for what he beleives is right!!
Why was I put in this fight? Why ME?? WHO AM I?? I am no super hoagy nor do I wanna be a dick head buttress he obviously is 'FITTED' for to be. For good or bad, I must face this to the end. My purpose was not to dis-cover him or anybody. Things are happening as I believed they were programmed to?! I am seriously telling you all now & again, this THING is something to be studied! TIME is a part of this mystery here. Are the Masons Illuminati?? because to me it is obvious, their connection by Sellier, made it obvious they have this TIME angle down enough to do what he alluded to about them & of something we needed to know. In the future!
I aint looking to fight with the world or it's powers. I just want what my investigation brought me here for. These faces of Mars images, or more would be awesome. I want answers, I want payback for what happened to me, so I can continue to live & bring my potential to where hopefully where it is destined to be. Without some buttress stickin it to me in me bottom! I will surely be better ORIENTED this time! I think I will stick to Mars study.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "The Universal law or the law of the creator that overrides everything is "free will". That is why satan or any evil entity can never do anything unless they reveal it."
MARS REVEALER: No. Free will does NOT over ride the creator!!! It is his will if I succeed or not! When talking about Satan or Jehovah where this is concerned, I put faith in Jehovah & hope he would will it that I succeed through what has been given me. I admit it is spooky shit!!! But it is still mine to deal with. It also at the same time is amazing!! I am the investigator into this. I kinda feel like the guy in Interview with The Vampire, doing the interview with that Vampire!
But I agree, FreeWill puts us on the paths we are on. I had help to be on this path is obvious & beyond my control. It was meant to be if that term can apply here. That is how I feel. I definitely aint proud of it!!!
From what I can see, I hope there is something to be proud for in this case & investigation. But how do we know unless we take this ride???
How did columbus & Vikings & others journey to new lands if fear of their boat sinking would stall them?? What would that free will have chanced or advanced?? Especially if it never happened because of that fear? Chuck Sellier said something very important to me I feel he was sincere with. I HAVE TO HAVE FAITH!!! FAITH REALLY MATTERS!!!"
Being THE CREATOR of This code, & UFO DIARIES, or one of them anyway, I take his words very seriously! So I choose.. to have FAITH!!!! Not fear! cont..
Have Balls!! Not Raisons or lips! Ya see I am like those old Vikings. Journeying across new frontiers unheard of before to the general sheeple! Entered the Twolight Zone & am now on my free will in pursuit to a dream! A vision! One that includes or included me having to deal with this THING! Is it Jehovah?? or is it Satan?? Who gave me this to deal with??
If I am a type of Job, it fits some, but I fall far short of the faith he had he needed to survive. Me being tested I am already sure I have failed. This is beyond me in terms of this code's construction & it's TIME influences that free will or not, something may not be free will after all!!! There Hoagland's John Connor commentings to me I feel comes in or fits somehow.
Satan I will also say FREELY, is NOT of TRUTH! Though an angel of LIGHT, his is Lies & deception that says free will is what God does not want you to have! It was his 1st Lie that one which got much mess started. So that story goes. Truth no matter what it is, attributes to Christ. Right? The way, the Truth, The Life etc. ;-) Ultimately if satan's little paws are attributed behind this, make no mistake, someone more powerful is in control! Especially for those whom are HIS! I have FAITH IN THAT!! If this is what it all is (I hope not, why cant we just get the fuckin data???) then I think & feel that FAITH is all I can hope on to help me through all this & to help me succeed to get this truth!
Unless you attribute Hoagland as being the devil??? ha ha ha ha ha. because the THING is being revealed & he used lies & deceptions to try to avoid this being investigated. Then the question remains again, WHY????
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "The "rules" that TPTB/Illuminati/Satanists have to play by is that they have to somehow reveal their plans. Hidden in plain sight, as it were. I think it was the late Bill Cooper who likened it to how blueprints are laid out for the public to see before a building is built. LETTING THE MASSES KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. If its their free will to ignore the warning than so be it."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmmm. Then they are telling us in code & on the surface from the very begginning of Ufo Diaries: Cydonia, that THE PLANET MARS, IS NEXT.... TO OUR OWN!!!
Seems there it implies something intentional or that is a plan?! This code is attributed even as being a set of blue prints in some ways. Or a map, or a computer program with many files to be accessed & opened!
But Satan does not reveal. He lies. Decieves, is not of truth. So how can anyone look to his revelations as something to follow as being truth?? Letting the masses know what is going to happen next ay?? Then I am to assume he intends on DESTROYING THIS PLANET! Why? In the code again, & again on the surface of Ufo Diaries, watch what is shown carefully as this is said: "& IF IT IS WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE,... WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH EARTH?"
It is there in the fast moving scenes we get an answer, if I FACE IT with the understanding your coming from, that I can easily attribute for that there! Does that make it so?? I not know. Not yet I admit. Not till I am in clear lingo knowledge & understanding so that I can be certain of the forecast I seemed to glean from that statement way back when.
I AM NOT IGNORING THE WARNING!! Or was it a warning for me? Because as I see it, I am being encouraged it seems in this code. Not warned to not investigate! I have to study this more & learn more for me to grasp the full intents & purposes of this coded information & communication, & prediction machine! cont..
But what can I do?? Unless & until I get past the PLUG IN THIS PIPE NOW?? THAT DICK HOAGLAND!! TIME is being PLUGGED BY HIM & HIS ACTIONS IS APPARENTLY RIGHT ON THE MONEY in regard to this code where he is attributed & finger pointed. As if someone wants him to see HEY, WE SEE YOU THERE YA BUTTRESS! WE KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING! WE KNOW WHAT YOU DID!! TIME TO TELL ALL WHO WE ARE & WHO & WHAT YOUR APART OF,.... OUR TEAM!!!!!
That is my impressions! Am I wrong? Is it my FREE WILL THAT ALLOWED THIS TO BE ENCODED?? I did not create this!
If this is a warning to KILL ME, JOHN CONNOR as it were,... Then make the move!! Because in time, is where I will have that victory some are trying to prevent!! Whatever that is... again. :-/
What can I say?? Your trying to give me the heeby jeebies Anonymous. I am beyond that now & my free will is to continue & fight need be any enemies I am supposed to fight & destroy need be. I will also do that with FAITH, because every person can make a difference. Jehovah made a people of difference makers!! I have faith in that & in him, & in him he sent that I may live!! FAITH REALLY MATTERS!!!!
My free will is made up! I shall never bow before any satanist scum as I know where they are gonna end up! So what now???
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "So in order for them to do their evil they have to reveal it somehow. Normally it is done in Hollywood in the movies but its also common to do it on TV. Its to their benefit that someone figures it out but that no one believes them. So whoever figures it out has to be discredited, bashed and ruined."
MARS REVEALER: That sounds plausible in a way, but I still do not know all the intents & purposes or what the code fully has to offer & say! That what you say not adds up or makes much sense to me. But I am a primative after all. Right? But are you close or apart of these guys that you know what this is?? Cause I am still wanting to learn some things.
You sound sure in sounding like how things would be done. But I am attesting to... FAITH.... &... WHAT IF!!! To give us a chance. A Fighting Chance. GROW SOME NUTS!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID... "Hoagland had no choice. He had to do the TV show knowing he would have to destroy whoever figured the code out. Never in a million years did he figure his good friend MR would be that person. But to his horror that is exactly what happened."
MARS REVEALER: It seems as if he had no choice, because he not even wishes to hint at that video or it's Faces or to those behind the program. It is obvious! He had to do that TV show,... But he left such Big Holes in that script, because for whatever reasons, he would not say what was scripted for him, so that they then had to invent a charectar who's guessing! Guess who that attributes here? :-/
More spooky shit! But my fault that exists??? NO! cont..
Well, only goes to show he underestimated me? or is that why he for many years was close to me?? maybe he knew who I was & he already knew what he wanted to do to me or with me, long before I came in touch of this code?!? Maybe in the past, he was warned about me for some reason, & I showed him that possibility in my very existance as being that one he was warned about? I mean come on... John Connor again! I have to be serious! In all Facets!! I am convinced some type of war is going on here & I feel as if I am in the middle of it for some reason!THAT AINT MY FAULT!!
But I do have my issues with Super Hoagy, spooks or no spooks involved, I want payback from him! I want answers, I want the truth & I want these Pictures! Because I can swear they are being attributed as NEW LAWS THAT WE THE PEOPLE... ARE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE!! Unless Hoagland openly answers me about that issue stating otherwise & WHY???
Again, all this shit now for 3 years, is all because HE DID NOT WISH TO APPEAR OR BE SEEN IN CONNECTION TO ANY OF THIS OR TO THESE IMAGES, seen in a video he himself was in! :-/ IT AINT MY FAULT!!
That would be a horror, (if that is, in fact how it was as you describe) & I DO FEEL FOR HIM ON THAT POINT! HE KNOWS HOW I FEEL!!!! But I cannot Puss down neither to him.... especially when my family were set up & hurt by him, & suffering from the mess he put us in! How about OUR HORROR? Because of this, because of him! Like he is more important that I should acknowledge over myself & my family??? Or my work???? Sheeeeet!
NONYMOUS SAID...: "Hoagland knew damn well what that meant and did everything in his power to talk you out of going any deeper with your research but you would have none of it, knowing how important it was. There was nothing else he could do, without sacrificing himself. There is no way he could come right out and tell you what kind of danger you were getting into."
MARS REVEALER: Hoagland knew what what meant?? That I would be that person to catch it's ball in play? What does that mean? Again, he is doing what in what he did to me,... saving me??? He was the threat to me & my family!!! Bullshit if you think not!
What does that mean that I caught that ball? I wanna know those answers 1st! Would that mean dis-covering his operativeness?? He is worried about himself being seen to all his fans as someone playing them?? I should feel sorry for that??? So that meant he had to stop me?? Because his world would be ruined??? Yet was & is ok to ruin mine ay?? Sorry if I do not feel that sympathetic under these conditions. Because they were conditioned! It did not need to be. Unless he explains otherwise?!
I do feel & see this Mars research & this UFO Diaries Mars video as important! The danger I was getting into is it seems danger from HIM! Your explaining it as if I should understand & be ok with him on that??! Am I wrong here? He could have come out & spoken to me. Remember, I was like his SON!! Him like a dad in a weird way!! I respected him & loved him, & still feel love for that buttress. But that aint gonna stop me from kickin that Buttress where it counts! Because what he really feels & thinks of me, & what he did to us! He could have trusted me! HIS FREE WILL CHOSEN NOT TO!!! His actions are also as important to causes here of blame. NOT JUST MINE!!! cont..
So instead of himself being sacrificed, because it was his to face, he decided to make me sacrificed instead?! Pulled an innocent in front of him to be hit instead of him? How honorable does he appear for doing that as well?? Some serious Mars researcher!!! Living a lie & playing a fiddle of deception to willing & wanting sheeple who think they are getting the truth! I am NOT of that fold. Not anymore! My path is there where it is now regardless what I choose. I HAVE TO HAVE FAITH!! DESTINY OR FATE... I am on it's path with something to do. I have to have Faith & HOPE that whatever that is, it will be for the good of all, & to make a difference to where things like this, are not a problem anymore. Because it is bullshit to go through this, all over images of reality upon another planet. That some want kept secret & others is apparent, wants public! That aint my problem. I did not create this. I will also not sit back & not fight for my rights, nor allow what has happened to me & mine, without getting some type of payback to fix things!!! Or die trying!!!! Because all of YOU... ARE AFFECTED BY THIS BUTTRESS AS WELL IF HE IS THE DEVIL HERE!! How about lookin at it like that?????!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Quote MR: "But anything I can use or take as advantage to use to be able to pursue him & culminate to what is gonna happen, I am using & will use all I can to make him suffer, as he did to me & mine! ESPECIALLY.... THIS CODE!!!"
That is exactly what the people that put that code in the show want you to do to prove that you are a stalker....that you have flipped out.....that you are unstable....that you are dangerous and nothing you say can be believed....especially what you say about the "code"."
MARS REVEALER: Is it now Anonymous??? I am stalking now ay? ha ha ha. He also a couple months ago by phone told me I was a teorrorist & he was gonna call Homeland security on me. I said for what??? Fucking me over for images & people he not wants known about that have spoken things about him, & a video that he himself was in?? That he not wishes anyone to address?? That makes me a terrorist! ha ha ha! That he is apart of an investigation & he is trying to stop it? That he is a public figure in these fields of research & wants to subdue any questions of a fucking video he himself was in?? Me wanting some answers & some mysterious pictures & him to fix things which is no secret that things went south when this investigation started!!!
That is fact & LOGGED AS EVIDENCE IN CASE SUCH charges or A COURT CASE ARISES FOR ME TO DEFEND & RAISE PETTITION TO SUBPENA OTHERS, FILE MOTIONS, & HAVE A COURT CALL TO EVIDENCE WITNESSES & ALL STRANGE THINGS THIS DOOR OPENS!!
Yeah... PLEASE COME AFTER ME AS A STALKER! I would LOVE to have this in open court where I can arise all issues & counter him & counter SUE HIM!!!
I am stalking him how,... By giving him back what he gave out?? For me painting mysterious pictures telling the truth SLANT??? Hey, in his own words, he does most the talking & implying! ha ha ha. Public data of his & his research embeded with a code lingo, that exposes him! Yet still hints & alludes to more to be seen under the surface of it all! Amazing Wizard Of Mars that Ol Koot! Again, that he did NOT TRUST ME to begin with to be honest with me so I can make the right decision. Now my right decision is a path the circumstances of my investigation, are leading me! Life or death. Life preferred! ;-) cont..
Hoagland even said this to me once... If One Cannot Be True To One self, How can Others count you as being TRUE? Or something like that he said. Either way, it spells out the same thing. For me,... as well as... FOR HIM!
I have not flipped out as I would have evidence to present that is consistent to my case & my investigation. Especially in terms of having those who made such statements already that is on the record & he yet has to rebutt! It aint my fault other sheeple are not seeing it. YET! remember, I am not done yet! It aint over till it's over!!! I sure am dangerous to him in regard to secrets he not wants no one to see or know about him, or these images, or his connections to them, being of INTELLIGENCE!
That is not my fault!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: " Why would you do exactly what they want you to do? I'm guessing Hoagland is just their front man and is expendable. You have already done what they needed done. You fullfilled their commitment to the Universal laws of free will and the code is out there but no one sees it except you....the guy they hope self destructs. Just what they wanted.....all according to plan."
MARS REVEALER: How do I know I am doing what they want me to do?? I know that is what you want me to think & I am hearing you on what your saying. But as I said, THIS IS AN UNKNOWN RACE... OF INTELLIGENT BEINGS!! To me, I am in a race! I am sure being tested in ways. I do not know how, but I feel that. I do not think I am fairing well if a test this is of me. But I am staying in this RACE as it is a race unlike any other I could have ever imagined!! iT DEALS ALSO WITH OUR FUTURE!! A SPACE RACE!! I can go on.. But I am crazy remember?? :-/
I aint the dumbest but surely not the most intelligent being here on Earth, but I am not stupid neither! I see where your going but have you seen where I been??? Think about that some. As I have.....
It is obvious maybe a diabolical reason can be behind my push for this truth as you suggest. But again, am I supposed to Puss out in light, or dark rather,.. as that appears as possible?? IT AINT MY FAULT THIS IS GOING ON! I CHOOSE TO FIGHT! GROW SOME NUTS!!!!
Especially.. if we are dealing with... an enemy!?! But I am curious what makes you think I already done what they needed done? Cause to me... being as I believe an ADDED ELEMENT UNTO THIS THING, I also can steer where it goes?? Being an element unto this, allows me some freedoms of what I can do with this. I think it is supposed to be this way! This aint ALL ABOUT HOAGLAND & MYSELF!! To me, that may be the distraction! But one must live out & experience?! Anyway, this is about something trying to be given unto us all. A message. From actual Martians on one side, & by secret Intelligence on the other. The Masonic connection is also a piece to this puzzle again, by the creators own words! Crazy am I? With such supporting evidence of testimony???!!! cont...
You say again, I am the only to see this code as it were? That was the Illuminati's intent only? Just to reveal or expose..or UN-MAN, that Dick Hoagland?? Like that was all this code is about?? NO WAY!! That is why this PLUG MUST BE PULLED SOON! So I can get to those important parts where this monkey wrench aint slowing me up!!! Again, I stress this is about something also to do with TIME!!! Because so much information is inside, of which Hoagland is but a gateway in as it were. Oh Hmmmm. Gatekeeper ya said right? Coincidence.
I also have not assumed yet what it can be of which if at all, I am being steered by anyone to make me believe or make me do what or what not. Yet!
You say that could be happening or can happen obviously. So maybe. But as of yet, I do not know enough to say one way or the other. Remember, if I am John Connor, he had people out there lookin out for him he did not know as well as those that he did know! Just the same for those against him to kill him.
So, if I am the enemy as a threat to something which Hoagland called me & made me believe I was John Connor, all I can say is we will see who prevails! Because as I said, no mattter what... This is mine to deal with. I would never be safe then. No matter what I choose. Stop or go. This is MY FIGHT NOW! No matter where it leads, or to whom!
If all I did so far was all I was supposed to do, then by all means,... what did I do?? I aint dead yet. I do not feel or see things as being OVER, but only CONTINUING TO ESCALATE!! ;-)
Of which yes, I am picking that fight! because I can lose battles, but I also shall win them. It is the WAR THAT IS THE OUTCOME OF THIS of where this shall prevail, or fall!
Destruct or survive, at least I can say I FUCKING LIVED! Can you or those that wish me ill or harm, say the same??
No, I am not through by a long shot! This THING is special indeed & from something or someone that wants this to be found. This aint all about Super Hoagy or his Team I can easily see!
No one is telling me what to do per say. I do all by following the data, follow the leads, to decide if I am correct or not, or to use my free will to help me determine what I can do next to fight back with this CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY! That someone gave me, as a fighting chance maybe? To fix what had been broken???
Because someone wants this code & all it's hidden messages seen. They will NOT be hidden when I fully decipher this lingo! Truth or lies then, will be determined by the veracity of the info as to the viewer once they also are in understanding!
Cause is it coincidence also that Dick Hoagland, has not tried nor wishes to fix things tween us? cont..
But I see many excuses given as to why I should feel compassionate enough to submit to what he dealt us, & live in harmony as if it not happened when we are STILL SUFFERING???? No way!! He has to fix all that! he is in a Jam with his OWN TEAM, called OUR OWN, & they are fingering him out, as well as these faces of Mars images, & he not wants anyone to see it, let alone ask any questions about it. :-/
yet I am crazy ay? Yet I aint the one Pussin out neither! To Live or to Die, I am on this path. I walk with FAITH!!! I was NOT evil in my desire to bring this out & seek the answers! What was done to me was evil. Now I have a crashed UFO to use & backengineer & use it for my SPACE CRAFT & to use against my enemies, who wanted to use it against us & already is using it against us all! I fight for them as well!!! Because when they see, they will SEE THAT LIGHT! Then they will wanna also... FIGHT!!! THEY WILL BE THE RESISTANCE!!
I guess TIME will tell. But all according to plan as you say? I can only pray anonymous, that it is for Good.. & not evil. From Martians or solely secret Intelligence, I do this because of the hope of potential in good things to come. But reality is reality right? But how do we know either way, if we are too scared to walk that path to destiny???
The plan is yet to be seen & felt! In my opinion. But I have a plan, one of which victory & truth shall be it's fruit! If I have FAITH!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "You are from New York? Time to act like it........get your head together and quit letting them pull your strings like a puppet.....if they can do it to a street smart New Yorker then the rest of us have no hope."
MARS REVEALER: yes I am, yet now your playin me? Time to act like it?? I already am, But keepin on him with pressure, because I am stalking my prey, as I am an animal, with the eye of the TIGER! The only one who pulled these strings is that Dick Hoagland!! HE WAS THE PUPPET MASTER for what now living Hell we are living in!!! HE NEEDS TO ADDRESS & FIX THIS!! Seems you need to be able to relate to the NY Experience from someone who lived it real! Cause there aint no way he is gonna stay gotten away with what he did! team or no team... Illuminati or Masons.. I do not give a shit! If anything they are telling me LOOK AT HIM! HE DID IT!!! I do not think if they are liars, that was a lie in which was told!!! AND SHOWN!!! Because it certainly is the TRUTH!
My beef is with Super Hoagy there! The rest of us have hope in what?? ME?? Well, if things go wrong if that is so important, then Look to Super Hoagy again there!!! :-/
Cause he made it much harder for me to FIGHT FOR YOUR HOPES & DREAMS!!! Let alone mine & my family's!!!!!
We need HELP in a serious way, but who gives a fuck??? Right? So to me, my enemy is clear enough that directly points to Hoagland & his lack of wantingness & willingness to address questions about these Faces of Mars images, UFO DIARIES, & those behind the program & not wished to rebutt what has been alleged against him by his own TEAM PLAYERS, to which this case's evidence already presented still stands firm against Hoagland's truth factor in this all. cont..
hell with the excuses, none care about me or mine! So no care goes into his problems. He just wants to stay on top looking like a God & someone who is to be worshipped & Loved for being such a great guy & truthful difference making individual on Planet Earth! Maybe a golden statue with his likeness & name on it. Which upon it should be written... 'I DIED FOR GEOMETRY'!
he wants me to stop pursuing this investigation to get answers & some Mysterious Pictures, all because it not makes life good for him??? GOOD!! He needs to fix what he broken!
I am getting my head together. Because from what this code also alludes to, there be a new head in town! It will NOT be like the Old DICK Head!!! That I promise! If I am to read deep into that, & if it be true,... I promise that is. ;-)
But I cannot get anything together until & unless he fixes things & I am able to have those chances to let all have HOPE as if all were hoping on me?! maybe they are. Again, this message in all it entails is much more than shown yet! As well is much more meaning than Me & Super Hoagy there!
I also am not perfect, nor am a super hero. I need help! I admit it & ask for help. Seems all on deaf ears! Right anonymous????
Thanks for replying, I guess we see things a little differently, but I appreciate your thoughts & care to address things. You apparently have insight. Wether or not to as I do or not, I only hope I can make things right in all this & get us all this message that was so important to give to us all in a twilight fucking zone reality special instead of being cool & up front with us all. But maybe this is for a bigger purpose that this must be gone through 1st? My mind is open & thinking all the time. I have a very active brain & cognitive pattern. Getting better anyway. I feel alive. The spooky cloak & dagger shit I can do without, but on we go through the yellow brick Road ridin the Majic Bus of The MARTIAN REVELATION!
Think of me as any will. Ingrate, scum bag, punk, stupid, whatevr. But ya will not be able to call me a PUSS where & when it came face to Face in dealing with this THING!! Can anyone reading this say the same???
GROW SOME NUTS & GROW OUR NUMBERS!! YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE!!
MR, thanks for wour response. I think we are not on the same page here. You said: As for Chuck Sellier & Lee Shackleford being the good guys?? I have no doubts that Chuck Sellier & Lee Shackleford are telling the truth about what they know. You have every right to trust them. What I am saying goes much higher than them. The people that control the corporation that owns the TV network makes a call to the CEO of the network. The CEO of the network then calls down the line and tells those two they want a program made and they are sending Hoagland down to fill them in as to what they want. They do as they are told. Hoagland shows up and dictates to them what he wants done. I'm sure Hoagland knew exactly what was to be done.
They wanted the code out there and the perfect scenerio would be that no one would figure it out. When you did figure parts of it out then they had a problem. The fix was to make sure no one listened to you.
What is my interest in this? You did not volunteer for this but you for better or worse have been "selected". You should feel honored. Your mission is the code. I also have my mission which has to do with MARS but is much different. I was not "selected". I for the lack of a better word "volunteered". Very few people ever follow their destiny and fullfill their purpose in life.
Back to my interest in this...I'm trying to get you to re-focus on the code. You are correct in that to figure out the rest of the code you have to deal with Hoagland. I just hope you can do it with a clear mind and not cloud your head with this intense revenge factor.
Not saying you do not have every right in the world to want revenge, its just that I think the code is much more important, not just for you and your family but for the rest of us also. . Of course I am not standing in your shoes and probably do not know the whole story....I understand that.
You are correct when you say this is about time. This has to be exposed before time runs out. The masses have to know what is on MARS but the planet is pure evil. It needs to be quarantined before certain DNA is brought back to earth. If it is brought back we will experience "Hell on Earth".
What is this about when you peel away all the BS? Immortality
But being as it may, I feel you may be playin with me regarding this all. To me, this is serious! I say this not to offend you. But to state that this discussion, as what appears it is turning out to be, appears inconsistent in some ways, though I seen the things you were saying. But to me, I really must assume that you are someone who is paying attention to this, in what I am trying to do & show, & really makes what you say great for SERIOUS DISCUSSION in the least!
Because it is being spoken about, as it should be! I appreciate that. Albeit I feel twists & turns in what you say, & you admit you have an agenda, but you say it aint Hoagland's agenda. That says much, yet so little.
Especially what has me in your replies to me, I am sorry for this, but you do appear to be more leaned to that DICK Hoagland. More UNDERSTANDING HIM, in HIS SITUATION, in THEORIZING what he is or did or whatnot, maybe in compassion also a little?
Because I felt you seemed to be wanting me to follow & accept that of the things you were saying about him, as if to think I will calm or relent in my pursuiit of him?! Sorry, that was my impression. But please read me out.
It seemed more like you were saying it was or is a no win scenario for me. Spelling it out kinda I mean. I know you also gave other feelings of yours that you also stated, countered your defence of defending him. That you were not doing so. I heard you there.
Yet spelling out scenarios of which implies knowledge or theories as you put it, about Hoagland being as what you described. A gateKeeper, a Front Buttress Boy, someone the Powers That Be used & still uses it seems. :-/
Painting a picture in my mind that connects in some ways to this code info about HIM! Again, twilight zone shit! Of possibilities that can exist, & you put forth some good discussion on what those may be in fact/s! You obviously have put some thought into your... theories! Again, maybe with what I am doing you been following, or trying to... (sorry all) but maybe that was enough that made your theories on the subject tune in some ay?
Better than fucking being told to stay tuned all the time ay?? ;-)
But I do value your input. Shows not only MYSELF, can picture, or paint in their minds, that Super Hoagy is more than Meets the EyeS! He is a fucking Transformer! Decept-a-con! Yup... sounds like him all right!
You do seem like a pretty serious guy in your replies to this smog of a blog. To be more than maybe just acting, to get a rise out of me, to make it appear that your serious, to play on my seriousness of this CASE & INVESTIGATION! But as I said, it seems your well thought out on some things to be mere ass playing to reply to this. Because as you can see, you not had to wait in any lines or anything to post in here. ;-)
You also gave good ideas of your theories about Mars, what is up there, & much more being alluded to that is up there etc. Great topics this discussion started. Great questions! cont...
You also state that in your own research, you agree with super Hoagy there that we are an ancient space traveling race. Awesome. ;-) But I wish I can see or know more of your research leads you to that as well. Maybe? ;-)
Would it help if I say PLEASE? ;-)
You seem assured also that Hoaglands case for them being little green men or not, you favored not, you wanted him to answer how he came to that conclusion. That their not I mean. Now I in turn spin that question to you as well? ;-)
Your research shows this? Just something to follow up incase anyone else reading this also wondered about that. ;-) Hoagland did not come to that conclusion by the Cydonia Face alone. You said that. ;-) Well, how did you?
You say your getting old, & seemingly are tired of waiting for Super Hoagy basically to shit or get off the pot regarding who was on 'MARS... IN THE PAST,... BEFORE THINGS WENT BAD'!
Implying you were, that POWERS controlling Super Hoagy there have etched in stone his agenda. Which may or may not be you implied, is the reason why basically he aint shittin or gettin off the pot neither for him to reveal what & what not. But you made it clear you were tired of waiting on him to do so.
Kinda implied as if you knew or know what that is? Because you arranged yourself to those Powers & Super Hoagland's agendas as NOT BEING YOUR AGENDA!!! Implying possibly that you have other ideas or plans (agenda),that can make something or someone shit that revelational stuffs wiothout the delay as it were, such as is being a factor here of being on THE POT??? ;-)
I know you say this that Hoaglands breaks were NOT Lucky breaks. He is apart of the Powers that Be. Doin their deeds, workin for them. Which obviously you must NOT agree with THEM, if you have a different agenda?! Just thinking out loud.
You imply maybe his agenda is to get people to waste their time with petty squabbles, mis-directing their focus away from the real important things.
Which you stated you did not know or care what those things are or were?!
Correct?
You then imply that if he is a GateKeeper, then nothing You or I can do would matter in what he does. Ok, why?? Because we are NOT OF HIS AGENDA? ;-) Or because our agenda is NOT strong enough to do anything about it???
Then it appears then your getting older to not see your agenda pan out? Is that what your implying how that will be? His power is supreme above yours?
Thus for me?? (No win scenario thang you painted for me) Your MoJo (research) is not as big as Super Hoagy's Mojo???
I do NOT believe for a minute that the varied things I am doing has no effect at all on him! So something is happening!! I not know exactly what,
but I can sense it. I also know I can wound! Bit by bit, piece by piece, the blows will eventually add up!
I also believe that still, this investigation is warrented, & needed, & there is enough to build a case upon! FOR ANY SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHER TO FOLLOW! Of the data gatehered already by me, & the confrimatory testimony as it were! That alone is enough without me involved, to make this demand investigation! From ANY SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHER!!! cont..
So I do not share the same emotion that NOTHING CAN BE DONE TO HIM!! To help him provide some answers!
You implied that Super Hoagy dropped the ball of his so called SERIOUS FACE OF MARS RESEARCH! Leaving you on Mars wondering where he went! Ha ha ha ha
I still find that funny as how I can see that. But I would think it was not funny in the past, where leaving us all now wondering also, why we also, in discussing this now, we are also left on Mars again, still without him! :-/
You implied maybe he is sucking up to mainstream because of his views so now he is pussin down, & maybe that is why he not shows anything? To not show what would flip mainstream upside down he would turn down??? To appease them? I think not! That agenda thing you mentioned he & his Super Powers may have comes to light a little.
You implied that Mainstream credibility is hand in hand with Super Hoagy wanting to talk about NAZI'S RUNNING NASA??? But Faces of Mars would not be better a legacy??? That intrigues me.
OR... That is his job, he NOT agrees with them of that agenda? So he wants to be more than what he really is in that charade he lives already, & do more than what was not meant for him? Like providing these Faces? That is something I gleaned & added to your THEORIES, on the matter. Please forgive me, but hey, we are discussing possibilities after all. RIGHT?
Now if that is a factor or not, in this code, it does seem that someone is IRRITATED AT HIM! To come forth regarding these faces, & his knowledge of being A MEMBER OF 'OUR TEAM'! So that kind of hurts my added theory. But was still plausible to think of as a connection. Again, Twilight zone shit!
You note he dances around the controversial?? Shit, in my estimation, he is running outta the room from them!! But you imply he tailors his arguments to the sheeple of the mainstream academic community. To me, he aint even doing that! He is deliberately witholding important information & imagery that takes this discussion all these years to a whole new level! of disclosure it would appear is the right word. Even though it is obviously clear to me, all the so called serious Mars research for all these years, have also been a cover job, a cover story. The LIE to appear as the truth.
With super Hoagy at the front of that line!
So yes, without HIM doing the talking about UFO Diaries, & The Faces of Mars Mysterious Pictures, it apppears as if, someone... had beaten him to it! Maybe in more ways than one! ;-)
Because this should NOT be occuring, let alone real. But when all other logical things not adds up, then the impossible is left to consider. Which obviously I have already considered. If the voice of his TEAM speaks through this code finger pointing him out to speak, & answer about these images, his connections to them & to Ufo Diaries & to those behind the Program, why is he remaining in silence?? Is not his TEAM the same AGENDA POWERS?? Because if you ask me, this is some powerful shit!!! WHY would he wanna withold?? Why cannot he show the images & tailor it to the sheeple??
Why won't he??
Is it because now, someone, beaten him to it??? Cut him off at the pass?
What happens if he were to still come out & discuss these images now??? I fantasize about that much! You can imagine! ;-) cont...
You imply me to move froward, telling me CYDONIA, was yesterdays news. yet I say it is today that it's news is being cast! Trying to be heard as well as seen!
You imply your open minded about this because your not involved in anyway.
That is fine for all else, but to me, hey, it is what you say. How can I tell or not?? Either way I appreciate the information & discussion you offer up for all to contemplate.
You seemed to agree with me that it seems many worship Hoagland. Follow him on his every word. Yet I say if that were true, many else would be with me under this veneer he always hints at & to is something more than what it appears to be on the surface. It really is fascinating & it's concept however. From an investigators point of view of course to appreciate this THING! But it is also HIS TEAM who are doing the talking here! Through that script as it were. The Geometry of The Baseline, which is the Intelligence Criterion! As he described in his STEINS DIAMOND article. ;-)
He wants to hog all the attention you spelled out well enough. ;-) That is why I think he would want to show these images at some point. But it seems someone elses agenda met in time with his agenda, & it not matched?! Yet His Team it seems are demanding him to come forth. Is that my fault that is there? Not Bloody Likely!
Yoou imply that I should be grateful for what Super hoagy put us through, because he was & is apart of a masterpiece, which it seems he was supposed to also be a mouthpiece & even a handler of these faces of Mars images in that Ufo Diaries: Cydonia video! But he did NOT wish to be photographed in connection to them. So he left the set. Making & leaving big holes in the script! That is why we are told on the surface of Ufo Diaries, that the surface of Mars (the video) we now know, is covered with Meteor craters!
Shackleford states "ALL THESE THINGS DR. HOAGLAND WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY"!
sO i THINK HIS team, WANTED TO MAKE SURE, THAT the JIST of what the final product had to say, would someday be found as an artifact on Mars in the future! Telling us that he did not take the work of himself & his colleagues seriously for up to 17 years, on the question of artifacts on Mars, which this document predicted someday, would be found! That is why we are told that MANY PEOPLE WOULD THINK THAT HIS CONSPIRACY THEORIES, MAKE HIM STARK RAVING MAD!!! Ha ha ha ha ha! It is kinda funny! IT IS ALSO TRUE!!
You imply that Hoagland wants to get this information out, but the powers that be are watching him very closely. Which I suggested that they also then must be watching me! You implied he was & is the one who puts this code out in form. yet if that is true or was true, (though I think some of that may be true) How is it his TEAM seems to have put a whoop dee doo in that code as well??? This raises the questions & stakes for the possibilities here. Because if this is correct, than I think the Powers that be are the ones saying this!! Telling us he is apart of their team!!!
THEY are the ones DIS-COVERING HIM! I am only dis-covering the message!
You imply he picks a fight with me for benefit of the people that control him. Yet aint that HIS TEAM?? Remember, who are the ones doing the talking in many FACES or FACETS of understanding! cont..
I do not see or think how that can be possible, as I think his TEAM already seen & knows what he did to me & know or KNEW what his agenda is & his actions regarding this case, as well as regards to me? For they shown me in this code, that made many connections to me personally & in my experience!
How can that be there, unless we consider the impossible?!
That is why It not makes sense to me & makes it sound as if Hoagland is the victim, other than MYSELF which no one appears to consider here. because I am a primitive I am sure ay?! You kinda painted him in a light that he is of the truth, but got caught in a snag, & he was trying to save himself by picking a fight with me over it.... Does not fly! Again, he knows his TEAM are talking to him through this by now! ;-)
But I do think & believe in agreement with you when you said that he thinks I broke, or can break the code. That is what bothered him! I am certain that when he felt I was able to penetrate deep enough into this code, his mind was already made up & he was already in action in how he was gonna handle me. From telling me THIS HAS TO BE HANDLED ABSOLUTELY PRECISELY, to doing a show on Coast, to pushing it at Enterprise Homepage, that we will get these images mailed to me, to all a sudden drop this Gary! get off this Train, This is Lies & Nonsense!
SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE!!
So they (the powers that be), are convinced & Hoagland is safe from their wrath??? That is what you implied. Again, in theory! But if that is true, then whose wrath is he facing from his TEAM in this code doing the talking??? he is being told you theorize not to say anything, His team demands him to come clean! See how this is inconsistent??
As a theory of course. If your theory is true of course.
You imply that I have the MARS HOLY GRAIL in the Palm of My Hands. (I still wanna know more about that)...
That I am smart enough to see this code, but not smart enough to figure out why Hoagland had to do what he did to us? As if I should or would excuse that as well? Especially when we are still SUFFERING & IN MAJOR NEED! But who gives a fuck right?? As long as Super Hoagy looks good, who gives a shit?! ME & MY FAMILY GIVE A SHIT!!! Holy grail or not, I want payback!!!
Which I already stated he can FIX! He knows what I want!!
You then state that you never met or spoken to the man. You mean the BUTTRESS!!! Just to be clear who we mean here! ;-) But you also implied all you told me was your knowledge of him as a public figure. I hear you there as well. I am learning more about him all the time. Know your enemy as the
saying goes. He is the most attributable in this code so far, as being my enemy!
You implied your trying to be fair. Yet where & when it came to me & mine, it not felt fair!! Sorry if that bothers ya.
You also to be fair, not came at this as I was innocent neither. My crime was & is to seek this truth & demand answers & some fucking FACES OF MARS MYSTERIOUS PICTURES! Keep the evil & voo doo shit, keep the twilight zone crap... Gimme answers & these Images! Ya know??? To be fair! He not wanted to play fair! Maybe that is why his Team in a way, I can see this in this light, that maybe they are appearing doing some speaking because they did not want to happen to me what he did to me & mine? A little hope & light
maybe in this time tunnel?? Because it says "AND WE KNOW THAT MARS (Mars Revealer) IS NOT CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING INTELLIGENT LIFE (my family?),... AS WE KNOW IT!!! yet despite all of this, when the image was 1st recorded, it was labeled head!!" cont...
Does that mean my head on a platter?? Fuck, then why aint I dead already??
or what else can that HEAD stand for attributing to myself????
if what FACET I see during that statement is true, it is about me. yet I admit, there is another facet of Understanding also attributing to that statement. They KNOW I cannot support Intelligent Life... As They Know it!
It seems to me, they are telling us all I am NOT capable of Supporting That DICK HOAGLAND!! I cannot support him especially after what he did to me & my family!! Again, which we are still suffering!!!! Now with 3 deaths in my family that would not have occured if we were not forced to leave!! THEIR BLOOD IS ON HIS HANDS AS WELL!!! PAYBACK I DEMAND!! HOLY GRAIL OR NO!!!!
You imply there is no reason I should continue my grudge against him. It is more than that!! Trust me!! He did not trust me... that is why we are where we are at now! You implied I gotten the best of the deal. I disagreed of course, saying the shit end of the stick is no deal at all!!!
He is living comfortable. In AC, heat, food a plenty for him & his, he can drive to the fucking store!!!! He took all that from us! This deal as you say it is, helps NO ONE!!! Especially me or my family that he OWES PAYBACK!!!
you implied I should wipe the slate clean. I stated his shit, he squeezes the charmin 1st! He needs to fix & PAYBACK!!! Then I am open for peace!!!
He has to be DIPLOMATIC! To him, Diplomacy is a one way street... where he is the big dog on the street to call those shots or terms. Uh Uh!! Move Over Rover. Ya know the saying!!! ;-)
You Implied you have PLENTY OF TIME. But you said your getting old & tired of waiting??? This to me was inconsistent. But I respect your thoughts.
I like to add I only hope that me & my family can have time to live, rather than stay in what we were forced into because of that DICK Hoagland!!!
If you seen or know where & how we live now,... You would agree & easily see the need for my continued efforts to pay him back! Until he pays back!!
You then imply the powers that be, his handlers, his agenda like minds, are the Illuminati, & were the ones responsible for the reality me & my family are now in. yet again, if that is true, why are they doing the talking in this code to Super Hoagy, to come clean???
You then imply I think the guys that put the code are good guys. I did not assess that, but have more weight so far, to show that is true. But I am not closed minded to the possibilities here. Juss some things not adds up of what is already added up. When considering THEORIES of course. :-/
You more than imply but state how it is with the Illuminati/Satanist/Powers that Be, as if your in the KNOW already like what MeanGreen stated was the
ILLS?? HA HA HA.
BUT YOU DO paint interesting theories regarding the things they do especially when compared to what happened to me & mine. Plus Hoagland's position in that shit. All I can say is that after Super Hoagy, if an enemy I still Face,... What are the odds??? WHAT IF...??? cont..
You imply that I already done what they needed done. I like to know more info how you know this?? How can you know?? Does your RESEARCH show this?
When I can see the research? PLEASE?? ;-)
You imply I was in danger, that Super Hoagy could not just come out & let me know just how much danger I was in. Hmmmm. WHY WAS... I IN DANGER?? Am I still in Danger???? I wanna fight so may as well bring it on!! Cause as you said, He was & still is... in DANGER!! He is fooling himself if he thinks he is not!
yet I still wonder, why would his TEAM warn me of this & of him?? If his
team are the powers that be, that can do this to him, why would they be providing me with this information?? About him, about themselves, showing us things that they have, that they wanted us to see??
That is why I believe & feel this is supposed to be seen. To be figured out & then the light will shine bright! I do not think all this effort went into this code & what not, to just never it to be seen. That does not make any sense to me at all! If that were the case, the video or the code would never have come into existance to begin with! This was NOT meaning to be a dead end. I not know how I know that, but I feel that.
You imply that my continuing efforts is doing what THEY want me to do to my own ruin. Maybe so, but it not adds up again! Because 1st I have more than a code to go by. I have outside sources that connect to it! The creators testimony as being one major chunk of that, & these OTHER videos, & OTHER Hoagland interviews, videos, etc has to offer. He speaks the lingo, the code follows as it were. Wether it is from many years ago, to this day! I still admit that is really interesting! It is one of the more important
issues I have as investigator I wanna know more about. But oh well. :-/
Anyway, you then imply that the rest of us are in HOPE of what I can do with this. That is an odd statement. WHY????? Cause no one else sees this code?? Or is there more??? Your comment seemed out of place & my senses are jumping.
So to address your last reply: (finally ay)
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "I think we are not on the same page here."
MARS REVEALER: I agree, though maybe we are at the same time?? I know you see & hear what I'm saying! No matter what I'm seeing.... I aint dropping or quitting or letting go! So what page are we on again??
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "I have no doubts that Chuck Sellier & Lee Shackleford are telling the truth about what they know. You have every right to trust them."
MARS REVEALER: One thing I am certain, they gave me information that only later, was I able to connect & use to fill some holes in my research. ;-) They told me the truth enough what I needed to know then. I am certain they did not tell me all they know. Nor did I get what I was hoping to from them. I also will say that Chuck has given me far more reasons to TRUST HIM, other than that DICK Hoagland. Yet,... Who am I???? Yet it was Chuck who cared for me & mine!!
It was Chuck Who was pissed that Hoagland did NOT live up to his part of THE DEAL, to have me working for him as Hoagland said to him I would be. He was pissed. Plus I was EMBARASSED!!! Now these guys as you say, being with agendas & shit??? Obviously anything is possible. But where merits count, It was Chuck Sellier again, that paid once again, for that DICK HOAGLAND'S antics! Or because of them. But when it came down to it,... It was genuine care I feel, that he did what he did! he id NOT have to do anything at all!
To be honest, we still very much dire need his help. But I feel like an investment he made in me, & that is also why I am working hard to solve this. If he was or is my enemy as well, why did he not leave us to fall when we were in their palms of their hands??? Why am I saying all this??
All over because a question or comment about TRUST! Especially when there seems like no one is ever there long enough to be able to. cont...
Fact is, I trust no one! I do not know who is friend or who is foe. Like you anonymous I admit I wonder. I like how you speak though. I can see your trying to help me see or understand, SOMETHING. Your obviously wanting to tell me something. Or you would not be here. Unless your playin.
As I said also, your great conversation & great convo maker of topics. I know,... But that Research of yours has me curious! ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "What I am saying goes much higher than them. The people that control the corporation that owns the TV network makes a call to the CEO of the network. The CEO of the network then calls down the line and tells those two they want a program made and they are sending Hoagland down to fill them in as to what they want. They do as they are told. Hoagland shows up and dictates to them what he wants done. I'm sure Hoagland knew exactly what was to be done."
MARS REVEALER: Ok. Hmmmmm. The People, That CONTROL The CORPORATION, That Owns the TV network. In clearer english, (THE ILLUMINATI), that control The CORPORATION, That OWNS The TV Network. Hmmmmm.
The corporation you leave un-named. Could it be the Corporation of The OUR TEAM? Or OUR OWN? The Illuminati control the Corporation 'OUR TEAM', That controls the TV Network! GRIZZLY ADMAS PRODUCTIONS??
In clearer english, this is what has to be sensed in your THEORETICAL input that is being said. Great discussion. Great Discussion! So long as we are on the same page now? ;-)
So the ILLUMINATI, which obviously would be in control of Grizzly Adams Productions (to simplify. Richard did say once 'Gary, Let's Keep this SIMPLE!')
The Illuminati called down the line to Chuck Sellier who is CEO of Grizzly Adams Productions, the ILLUMINATI told Chuck & Lee Shackleford they were sending Super Hoagy down to them to be SUPER-FREINDS! In a Fortress of Solitude, no less!! Chuck already told & confirmed for us was filmed in an Old Masonic Lodge in Salt Lake! So come on, look at the humor, & the irony here! Connections Most INTRIGUING!;-) ha ha ha!
But seriously, Anonymous, that is what your spelling out! By following the data. We can attribute what you say! To me that is amazing! From an investigator point of view. To me, it aint coincidence. Spooky, but it is funny. So The SUPER FREINDS are told by THE ILLUMINATI, that they want a program made. Hmmmmm. Program can have many facets unto it. Read deeply into those words there!
Now that Super Hoagy & his Team of Super Friends in the Fortress of Solitude, of The Illuminati's friends, the MASONS, they are ORDERED TO DO A PROGRAM! Upon which Super Hoagy Directs the team of Super Friends, in the Fortress of Solitude Of The Illuminati's Friends, THE MASONS!
Interesting!! VERY CONSITENT TO AN UNKNOWN MYSTERY TO SOLVE, In Chuck Selliers own words, regards to the DIRECTOR!!! Unable to Name or photograph him, let alone mention about him ay?!
What did he say that got me like wee up just now Anonymous?? If you heard, & remember Sellier's words?? Regards to the director! Now apply that, to what he said about Richard Hoagland & The faces of Mars. cont...
he said... "THE FASCINATION WITH THE FACES OF MARS FOR ME & MY FASCINATION WITH RICHARD HOAGLAND, WHO WAS 'THE BIG MOVER & SHAKER'.... IN ALL THAT!!"
NO FUCKING WAY!! ANOTHER FACE... OR FACET OF UNDERSTANDING TO APPLY in YOUR THEORETICAL posisbilty!! Interesting... coincidence??? or is this a series of BIZZARRE COINCIDENCES?? Ha ha ha!
Now think about this Anonymous. With what YOU just said helped me assess un-connected pieces I felt connected to each other. In regards to Hoagland, & what Chuck had to say about HIM< in more ways than ONE!
Ok. Lemme explain, this is fascinating!!!
Now, Hoagland as being the BIG MOVER & SHAKER IN ALL THAT, I attributed as being a DIRECTOR! But I never mentioned that to anyone, but one person!!!!
Now, if that was so, I had no proof to connect these peices before, but now a model exists!! The model of THE SUPER FRIENDS by Anonymous! No... I am serious!! Now, Chuck also said that he still had the FILM, the pre-production films of the host set! IN THEM HE SAYS..."IN THEM WE CAN SEE THINGS WE DID NOT SEE IN THE FINISHED PRODUCT! YOU CAN SEE THE DIRECTOR!!!
YOU CAN SEE HIM DIRECTING THE HOST POINTING HIS FINGER TELLING HIM WHERE TO GO!!"
So. When he answered me about the director, telling me he for some reason he found odd, was that he could not remember who the director was. It had to be someone he knew, someone he worked with. And MIND YOU MND YOU, we do not get new directors, we do not get new people. The people I work with I've worked with for years!! He found it odd he could not bring a picture to mind, he could not place a face.
Yet, IN THAT FILM, YOU CAN SEE THE DIRECTOR!! MOVING HIS FINGER TELLING THE HOST WHAT TO DO, WHERE TO GO. Hmmmm. being a BIG MOVER & SHAKER AY?? Maybe his team thought he was being a BIG DICK that day? ;-) Something pissed these guys off in my opinion about Super Hoagy, their super Friend, in the ILLUMINATI'S Best Freinds Fortress Of Solitude of THE MASONS!
Now the connection I feel applies to be considered here Anonymous, is the missing link to that Facet! That would match directly & would solidify those connections I see. Well, wouldn't it???
I WANT THOSE FILMS CHUCK!!!! if only. :-/
HOAGLAND DICK-TATES TO WHAT HE WANTS DONE AY?? Big MOVER & SHAKER IN ALL THAT INDEED!!
So Hoagland is in fact to summ this up here in what I see your saying, is that Super Hoagy really is an agent of THE ILLUMINATI! As it was THEY WHO SENT HOAGLAND TO THE MASONS?? That the TV NETWORK Grizzly Adams Productions which the ILLUMINATI control, because of the Corporation OUR TEAM, being apart of the MASONS, met & Super Hoagy DIRECTED THE HOST SET?? DICK-TATIN' to the TEAM?? ha ha ha. Yes, it seems he was being a DICK to them! ha ha ha
Why can I imagine that for some reason??? Because of WHAT HE WANTS DONE!!
Shit, I can IMAGINE, from my own experience of things he wants done. But what happens when someone... says... NO!!!! ;-)
Ya wind up like me??? We'll see!!!
Yes I agree Anonymous. I am SURE ALSO, HOAGLAND KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS TO BE DONE!
The point is here Anonymous, is that HE DID IT!!! So if he is the grandmaster Wizard of Oz, or in this case, the Wizard Of MARS? Then knowing all this entails in this code, then nothing should be coming as a surprise unto him? That also would imply he is aware of the same knowledge that his team are also knowing. he had to have known about me also?? Because I am sure they did, because of the TIME thing I aint quite grasped yet! But if so, then he would also have to seen the parts of code where he sees his team finger pointing him out in this code to be seen in the future?
Because at this standpoint of view, it seems he was unawares, of this additional goodies to this code?? because he says himself, he not took the work seriously of NASA (maning himself) & his colleagues (OUR TEAM) seriously for up to 17 years, on the question of artifacts on Mars this document (ufo diaries) pre-DICK-ted might be found!!! cont..
Looking for all the world like HA HA.... HERE WE ARE. WE SEE YOU. WE KNOW WHAT YOU DID. WE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE!!! COME CLEAN!
So if he directed it, how could he have missed these additions?? We already KNOW AS EVIDENCE & MUST BE TAKEN as Fact, because Hoagland did not appear to rebutt, is the FACT that HOAGLAND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE SCENES WITH THESE IMAGES IN HAND!! Remember, THE WOMAN??? Shacklefords impacting blow to Hoagland's ass there connecting HIM to those images & to that scene telling us all the words she said were originally for Hoagland!! Without their Voice Of Authority in there, they had to INVENT A CHARECTAR, WHO'S GUESSING!
So. Those to me are blocks that both sides, in these senses of POSSIBILITIES that connect, both contradict each other. I think & assume we really need that preproduction tape/s of the host set when it was shot!
Shackleford off the record told me that Hoagland was at the set that day!!! That he was across the room doing something else, but he remembered seeing Hoagland in there. An argument ensued, & Hoagland stormed off & off the set. Then he said he remembers hearing from across the room... someone saying Geee,... What an Asshole!!
I cracked up when I heard that. There to me connects because this code calls him THE BUTTRESS!!! The Man On The Moon. Calling him an ASS! get it? ;-)
There is humor here I do admit that. Though what happened to me & mine aint fucking funny at all!! NOR DESERVED!!!
Thanks for that tidbit & wouldn't it be great Anonymous, if we can show that is true?? What IF???... That Tape Sellier alluded to my hands can get on to show??? The odds I think are in favor we will see that Dick Hoagland in more things we seen him in on the finished product?! ;-)
Can he really be the BIG MOVER & SHAKER... IN ALL THAT??? Indeed.. could he ....be??
Anyway, sorry, but that was twilight zone cool!!! ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "They wanted the code out there and the perfect scenerio would be that no one would figure it out."
MARS REVEALER: oK. The LLUMINATI wanted this code out there? yet the perfect scenario would be that no one figure it out??? Sorry Anonymous. To me that would be like the ASS Thing to do. That is just what not adds up to me. Your right, I have no clue about those stuffs. I aint a Satanist nor do I wanna be! ;-) The best way no one to figure out anything, is NOT to put something out there to begin with! This is what does not add up. Not for this as I see anyway. Maybe your right. I am PRIMATIVE after all. Right? :-/
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "When you did figure parts of it out then they had a problem. The fix was to make sure no one listened to you."
MARS REVEALER: Now, as powerful as the ILLUMINATI go & are, at least from what my Primative ears have heard, is that they would have alrewady had the problem fixed, if I was the real problem here. ;-) Let's be real. I mean look, not bullshit me, I grew up around Italian...Families as it were. I knew if there is a problem, it got solved & no questions asked. So I did NOT ask. ;-)
Or are you yet leading up to that theoretical atmosphere? Cause if so...
Your wasting your time. Do what ya gotta do then. That would finish things I guess now won't it? Is that a theoretical scenario your leading up to here??? cont..
Because how to be certain to FIX something? I thought it wasn't broken to begin with? I also wonder, why is it or would it be such a great... PROBLEM?? It is their fucking bizzarre puzzle!! It is mine to try to solve. So to solve fix this really would be to KILL ME!!
What would that problem be?? Who is it a problem to? Why is it a problem??
That is why Super Hoagy has this PROBLEM WITH ME!!! he needs to FIX things!
Tell this Illuminati to make him fix this shit, & I'll just take these Faces of Mars images & present them to the world & say hey, thanks & fuck you very much! I mean who am I? I cannot solve the worlds problems, but I feel I sure as I am saved By Jesus, that I can at least, solve THIS!!! Of what fell on me & my duty as a SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHER to investigate this CASE, & Fight those & ALL WHO OPPOSE ME to succeed this investigation & MEAN HARM TO ME OR MY FAMILY!!!
You better HOPE I am NOT John Connor!!! better get it over with QUICK!!
Since no one, is appealling, to MY HIGHER NATURE?? AY CAPTAIN HOAGLAND?? To Drop this & Do Something Else Gary!!! My question to the buttresses that think this way of me, WHO ELSE OR WHAT ELSE CAN I BE?? IF NOT ABLE TO BE... ME???
What rights have you to persecute me from existance? From a Life? From amazing work doing really cool things!! Yes, who'd risk that?? MARS REVEALER!! GROW SOME NUTS!! FIGHT & WIN FOR THE CAUSE OF TRUTH!!
Kill me... Better hope you don't miss!!! This is bigger than myself, or my family, as great & important as that is. I not wanna live If I cannot be me!!
Put me out of my misery then you murderous scumbags!! CAUSE your only makin me madder & more determined!
Now I am pissed again!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "What is my interest in this? You did not volunteer for this but you for better or worse have been "selected". You should feel honored."
MARS REVEALER: Great question! Your research should show that interest,.. If you show it to me that is? ;-)
Oh I know I not volunteered for this. But 'SELECTED'?? ya see, this code kinda implies that also. I think maybe it is a test to swell my head or not. It made me cautious!!! I'll say that! Selected as what? HEAD? The head thing again! The code attributes it to Harry Truman. Stating in his own words, I Cannot Think Of A Better Way Of Choosing A Candidate To Be President"!
So of course you see my reluctance to look to deeply into that, especially when I run into that more places than one. Maybe candidate to be president to have my head cut off? Gee what a fucking prize! Just know before my head will roll spitting in the face of my enemy, John Connor is supposed to win the war!
I should feel HONORED to being the target of the ILLUMINATI, whose Super Freinds wanna kick my ass ay?? Because of a fucking code that they put out & ordered that DICK Hoagland to the Fortress of Solitude of The Masons, to do a program they themselves, put these images to be seen in.
Ok. So, are we on the same page?? Which seems more plausible?? Theoretical
posibilities. Coincidenes. Connections Most Intriguing! yet, what is the TRUTH??? cont...
If I am gonna be killed, I would like to know what it is I am dying for? FREEDOM!! GROW SOME NUTS!! YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE!!!
For some fucking faces of Mars images??? I guess it is worth fighting for then, maybe even dying for, as I feel I have been doing the right thing by not giving up. If one cannot be true to oneself, how can oneself be true to others?
I should feel honored I was selected to be a hit, is what your theories spell out to me Anonymous!?
Selected by whom?? SELECTED FOR WHAT?? SUFFERING? HUMILIATION?? POVERTY??
Selected for PUNISHMENT?? Why am I to be punished? Why was I the one being Punished??? I did not create that fucking video!!!!!
Maybe I am misunderstanding, because from where I stand now Anonymous, I do not see a bright future. For me or mine. So please elaborate a little if you can why I should feel honored & for what?? This whole thing is ugly & has been. Look where we are at now. That is why I cannot wipe the slate, it has too much SHIT ON IT!!! I see no honor in all that has happened!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Your mission is the code. I also have my mission which has to do with MARS but is much different. I was not "selected". I for the lack of a better word "volunteered". Very few people ever follow their destiny and fullfill their purpose in life."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmm. My MISSION is the code? No offence, but how can you be sure? You also said basically I was a sucker for The Illuminati & The SUPER FRIENDS.
That I am twisting in the wind wasting my time. This is part why I think your just playing with me & my seriousness about this. Now it is my mission. Which is correct because I feel as like I am on one. In regards to Hoagland, I am on a mission to get payback. Regarding this code, I am also,
but mainly for these faces Of Mars MYSTERIOUS PICTURES!
You have a MISSION regards to Mars also you say?? You also apart of the SUPER FRIENDS? ;-) Seriously, though, I am curious as to what your saying & referring to. You 'VOLUNTEERED' ay? Hmmmm. Into what? ;-)
There is much more I feel I can understand, if maybe you would share your research that soun ds really amazing & interesting, but I feel that can shed more light to what it is your trying to tell me?
You 'VOLUNTEERED' & were not 'SELECTED' as you say I was, which again, you think I should feel honored. This is confusing & does seem to be an opportunity to be learned more of, but remaining anonymous in your research, as well as what it is you may be trying to tell me, I cannot figure it out. :-/
OK, here is a question, those you VOLUNTEERED for are the same ones who SELECTED me? I really want more input from you if possible regards to this.
I feel however, PROOF in what your saying, especially about me, is needed!
Because from not being apart of this in any way, you did a turn around & seem to imply knowledge regarding this all. I mean no offence but surely you can see my points raised? I mean your telling me all this for a reason right? To go someplace right? To be on the same page right?
Very Few People you say, seldom ever follow their destiny & fulfill their purpose in life. I guess with the ILLUMINATI & THE SUPER FRIENDS around, I can see why?! But seriously anonymous, is it bad to feel or want a purpose in Life to live for, to fight for?? It would suck to die for, but as it may ay?! I do not know what this DESTINY is that may be implied to me that I do feel something I have to do. I intend to fulfill my purpose & I hope that I would make a difference that counts for my children & YOURS & for all! A fantasist? Maybe I am. I am a visionary, & a dreamer. I was taught it was OK to have these qualities that so many now disencourage! cont...
Maybe your poking fun at me or maybe your giving me a warning there also ay? I can read it like that regarding being able or not to fulfill my purpose in life. I can only try right? Again, who am I against these powers, but surely, as you say, I am enough to shake some SKULLS huh?
That is funny!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Back to my interest in this...I'm trying to get you to re-focus on the code. You are correct in that to figure out the rest of the code you have to deal with Hoagland. I just hope you can do it with a clear mind and not cloud your head with this intense revenge factor."
MARS REVEALER: Your trying to get me to refocus on the code. Hmmmm. Before you were trying to sway me from continuing. You can see why I am suspect here of your seriousness?! I am trying to be as clear minded as I can be, but as I said, we are suffering still from what he did to us! THAT MUST BE FIXED!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Not saying you do not have every right in the world to want revenge, its just that I think the code is much more important, not just for you and your family but for the rest of us also. . Of course I am not standing in your shoes and probably do not know the whole story....I understand that."
MARS REVEALER: The code I also feel is very important! But until some things get fixed, I would not have all hope on me to succeed. I NEED HELP!! There aint none to be seen or had. So until he fixes things with PAYBACK I am on this path with him & he has yet to feel my anguish of 3 years. So that ball is in his court to fix things. The odds not look good to him doing anything.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "You are correct when you say this is about time. This has to be exposed before time runs out."
MARS REVEALER: Before Time runs out ay? Hmmmm. Seems I cannot help that much, as I do not know the time limits here with this. Me & my family have needs, the basics & other small needs that would help ensure my time studying this is worthwhile & YOU CAN HOPE! But as of now,... if your truthful, hope not looks good. Does it??? cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "The masses have to know what is on MARS but the planet is pure evil. It needs to be quarantined before certain DNA is brought back to earth. If it is brought back we will experience "Hell on Earth"."
MARS REVEALER: I agree we all have to know what is on Mars. Is it PURE EVIL? Hmmm. Sounds like your research I really would love again, to know more about that makes you come to that conclusion! ;-) But that aint up to me now is it?
If people hope I can & will do this, why not anyone help?? Or are you able or wanting to help out there some as well? I am trying to figure out why your speaking with me & where your trying to go in these Theoretical discussions to things you say you know for certain. That is a big jump.
Either way, as I said, your great conversation. Sounds like your speaking about The Movie Doom or Ghosts of Mars. next thing the Transformers will show up & help starship Troopers help me save earth! ;-) Ha ha ha. Juss playin. But I think you got my hints?! How much interest do you have in wanting me to succeed??? Can you help? Actions speak louder than words there.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "What is this about when you peel away all the BS? Immortality"
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmm. Hopefully not starting with my death? ;-) It seems it will go either way, & I will have FAITH!!! But Immortality. I really think I need to hear more from you. About this, & OTHER stuffs.
Let us be on the same page please. I hope to hear back from you although I aint very sure about you. But you seem serious about these topics in the least. As I said, you put thought into all this... SHIT! If I indeed was SELECTED as you say, wouldn't they want to or be able to help me??? I guess we will see in your next theoretical replies?~! I hope so.
Thanks again for replying. You have my attention... NOW WHAT???
MR, I'm not sure why you continue to insist that I am taking Richard Hoagland's side in something I really don't know much about. I think what you are confusing is the fact that I am laid back and am not getting all bent out of shape about what you describe happened. The thing with you and Hoagland is just that, something between you two because as you say it got "personnal". . The best I can do is say that my impression of him makes it very clear to me that I cannot dismiss what you say happened.
As far as my "theories" I can say that I try to deal in facts. If it is just an opinion/theory then I try not to forget to say so.
As far as following what you have been doing, yes I have read the things you have been doing but to be honest I could never make much sense of it until I watched some 3 part video you did recently. Only after watching that did it make a little more sense than it did before. I believe it was the 2ND video where you seemed to calm down and quit wandering all over the place and laid out just what you were getting at. Part of the 3rd video was also quite good but toward the end you started losing me again.
I'm glad you don't think I am messing around with you. I take the subject of Mars very seriously for reasons I rather not go into.
As far as my research, its all out there, all of it except one thing that involves a personnal experience. I have no choice, its part of my mandate. It would not surprise me if you haven't already run across it but I cannot pimp it here, thats part of the agreement also. Those that are led to it will know why and what they need to do.
A long time ago you made the statement that you believed that a "Higher Than Human Intelligence" made the faces on mars. I will tell you now that you were correct as far as I am concerned based on that "personnal experience". That Higher Intelligence is evil to the core just for you information. At the top of the food chain, as far as I know, is a female entity. When she looks at you it is a very uncomfortable feeling, its like a stare that goes right to your soul. Beautiful bitch but a bitch none-the-less. I whimped out and left after only 5 seconds into the meeting. A lot of souls were lost on Mars and if they get their way there will be a repeat on earth. You can take that anyway you want to as I felt a need to throw it out there.
As far as me controlling Hoagland because I was getting tired of waiting for him to disclose certain things then you would be wrong. I am no different than you in that matter. You have a list of things you want him to disclose because of your agenda and I have a list of things I would like him to disclose because I think he does know about them. Like I said earlier, I have never met or spoken to him like you have, but for better or worse he is positioned as the gatekeeper in this Mars stuff so he has the ears of millions of people. Its just the simple reality of the situation you have to deal with. No reason to read more into it than is there. If I did have any power I think I could just pick up the phone and call Hoagland and say "Dick, I want you to disclose this next". LOL.
Another thing is this "TEAM" you keep referring too. Members of what team? Are you talking about the "Team" of people like yourelf that "volunteered" to help Hoagland do research? If so then why would you ever think they were a part of the controlling Powers That Be? Sounds like just some people interested in doing Mars research. Or are you talking about some "Team" behind the scenes that put the codes on that TV program? I think you are forgetting that I was not there and so these small details tend to confuse me. If so then why would you think they were not messing with you? You can imagine that I am messing with you but not the people that put that code in the TV program? You gave them credit for telling you in the codes that they want Hoagland to come clean and you feel that that information is completely legit?
Quote MR: Does that mean my head on a platter?? Fuck, then why aint I dead already??
Why would they want to do that? They seemed to have neutralized you already. I think the way that works is this. If millions of people listened to you then you are a danger to them. When no one (millions of people) is listening to you then there is no threat. even if you broke the entire code tomorrow and posted the whole thing on your website and no one was listening then you still pose no threat.
Quote MR: The best way no one to figure out anything, is NOT to put something out there to begin with! This is what does not add up.
Thats what I am trying to tell you. They have no choice but to put it out there. If they want to do anything it has to be hidden in plain sight. The humans have to have the chance to figure it out. If they cannot then thats great for the bad guys. Its the rules that they have to play by. Its why just about anything they do has been told in a movie at one time or anther but it is hidden among a ton of other crap.
Quote MR: Now with 3 deaths in my family that would not have occured if we were not forced to leave!!
Do you see how frustrating this is to me? I make statements in response to what you said happened with Hoagland and then you throw new things like that out there which of course puts a whole new spin on it. Of course you are the only one that knows why you attribute those deaths to Hoagland. Thats getting way too personal for me and and something that is none of my business.
Quote MR: OK, here is a question, those you VOLUNTEERED for are the same ones who SELECTED me? I really want more input from you if possible regards to this.
Yes. We are again getting into the Spiritual Realm again. They are the ones that lead you to places. They are the ones that show you things. They are the ones that put explainations in your head. You want proof? There is none. You either know it and feel it or you don't. I think you referred to that as faith. In my case it was more than faith it was something I was actually shown.
Quote MR: Anyway, you then imply that the rest of us are in HOPE of what I can do with this. That is an odd statement. WHY?????
I can only speak for myself and frankly talking about it makes me uncomfortable as that area is not my specialty. There are many more learned people who are experts. But thats where all this leads and is more in the spiritual realm. You keep going in that direction with your questions and the best I could do is give you a general outline that is probably full of holes and mistaken notions. But in general I'm sure its correct.
But the problem I have with the "spiritual realm" is it skips over many steps to an orderly process of Mars research. I only dabble in it because I was brought into the Mars reseach at that level and had to go back and start at the beginning.
This is how I see the orderly process:
1. Was there once an ancient civilization on Mars? I think many of us can agree that there was. This bypasses the question of if there is still remnants of that civilization still up there possibly living underground.
2. What did these people look like? I have come to the conclusion they look like us. Hoagland also said he thinks that way. Stitchins and his Annunaki would also be in that camp. That eliminates any green or red aliens or the greys the UFO crowd talk about.
3. If they look like us then is there a connection with them and us earthings? You have to think there has to be a connection which would explain all these secret societies with their supposed secret knowledge. Secretcy to me implys evil. Why else keep it secret? So in my opinion, by definition they are evil.
4. so if I am on the right track they are evil and have an agenda for the people on earth and their minions work toward this agenda through the secret societies.
5. What is their agenda? This in my opinion is where you start getting into the "spiritual realm". If there is anything to your code then this is where it would come in. Thats why I am interested in seeing if there is anything to it. Like I said earlier I think I have a general ideal of what that agenda is but the details escape me and that code is the only ball game in town that could possibly fill in some of the pieces.
I just read this at a site I think is 50 percent BS but wondered how they managed to get this right.
"Not being told to the American people about this Great Game, currently being played out upon our Earth, is that their leaders, including Obama, are part of a centuries old “cabal” intent upon igniting what they believe will be our Planet’s “Final Battle” which, according to their beliefs, will see the return to our Planet of the “ancient gods"
Notice "gods" is plural. More than one god running around. Is this inconsistant with the old testament? No, in many places it talks about god in the plural. "Sons of Gods" and "you shall not have any other gods before me". Now if there is only one god then why say all this in the old testament? And who is the real god of the old testament? A god who is jealous of other gods? A god that demands blood sacrifices? A god that demonized all the people on earth except the israelites who he ledaround slaughtering without mercy? these demonized people he himself made? are saying saying God can make mistakes? That he made these gentiles and it was a big "boo boo"? Even at Sodom And Gomorrah you have some slob named Lot depicted as a holy man.
When they had not yet retired, and the people of the city, the people of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, the entire populace from every end [of the city]. And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, and let us know them." In response, Lot refuses to give his guests to the inhabitants of Sodom, and instead offers them his two unmarried daughters, "who have not known man", to do with as they please.
so this nice guy offers his two daughters up to this mob to "do as they please to them". does that sound like a holy man?
Does something strike you as being wrong here? Why would god be jealous of other gods if they don't even exist? Something else is going on here in my opinion.
Trying to answer that is a very hard thing to do. There are very few places to look. One place would be Stitchins and his Annunaki, in the Summerian text. These are advanced mortals that came to earth and were looked up to as gods. They came to earth from Niberu for the gold to save their planet. They also inhabited Mars. Or could these Annunaki be the fallen angels and there is no Niberu? Or could the Annukai be the Nephilim, the offspring of humans and fallen angels?
The Fallen Angels are immortal and Humans are mortal beings. So what do you get when you have a Immortal being having sex with a mortal being? A Nephilim? So is a Nephilim mortal or immortal? They would have to be both but how does that work? Is that why it says Nephilim are the biggest abomination to god? Is that why he says he had to imprison them in the underworld until the end times when he will unleash them on the earth once again to prey on humans?
How can you be both mortal and immortal? Could it be like Dracula? You can kill him by running a wooden stake through his heart but if you ever remove it he comes back to life? Can you kill one and then they re-incarnate into another body?
What has confused me is how a Fallen Angel which is supposed to be a spiritual being could have sex with a human which is a physical being in the first place. How was it possible to produce the first Nephilim?
They say that a spiritual being like a fallen Angel cannot take over your body. You have to invite it in somehow but the best they could ever do is share that body with you. But a Nephilim is much different. Once you have a Nephilim being then a fallen angel can actually take it over and its the only way a fallen angel can become physical.
So my theory is that god imprisoned the Nephilim on mars. Probably there are mummies underground and the minions of the secret societies want to get their DNA and bring it back to earth to produce physical bodies the Sons of Gods can take over to kill humans.
What would be the point of that? Why would the fallen angels be so concerned about what happens on earth when they can go anywhere in the Universe? Why is the focus on earth?
My theory is immortality. To be more precise....Judgement day. Thats is where the time factor comes in. for some reason the Creator decided to hold court on this hell hole of a planet. I would imagine the entire universe knows about it.
From what I understand it works like this. On judgement day, all will be judged. Fallen angels, Humans and all other beings. Those immortal beings that are judged to be unworthy will lose their immortality. They will be replaced by humans that are judged to be worthy.
So the fallen Angels figure that it is in their best interest to corrupt as many humans as possible. Make it so there are no humans that can replace them. I don't thonk that will matter but I think thats what they think. Never the less they are doing a very good job at corrupting humans. I seriously doubt that there are many humans worthy of becoming immortal creatures at this time.
Sorry if I bored you with this but you kept wanting me to go into it.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Sorry if I bored you with this but you kept wanting me to go into it."
MARS REVEALER: No apolagies. Yes I wanted you & still want you to get into it!
Far from bored I was with your replies. Interesting enough.
This alone what we are discussing it seems, would have made for a better show. But maybe it can lead there ay?
As I said, the topics you discuss are fascinating.
ANONYMOUS SAID... "MR, I'm not sure why you continue to insist that I am taking Richard Hoagland's side in something I really don't know much about."
MARS REVEALER: I do not insist your taking his side. I just SENSE something in things written by you that by being FAIR as you were, it appears you were making excuses for him. Maybe that aint what you were doing, but again, I sense something in your words!
That I should accept it, & ignore it, & move on as like nothing ever happened, to lick the shit slate clean without him needing to fix things 1st, so I can work on this code & continue my work & take care of things that needin be taken care of!!
I hear you in your words, & one thing that to me I sense strongly, is that this is something I feel you know much about!
Your spelling out his hypothetical sides to this as possible explanations to me, which I was NOT asking for from anyone but HIM to do, but I understand this controversy stirs emotions & ones train of thought. To try to figure something out here that demands to be investigated. Thus I feel your reply's to me regarding this?! Who knows. But possibilities & things well noted in the hypothetical realms you mentioned that shown & told me, you seem to know some things. At least that is the impression you wanted me & I think others to see.
You see, the way I see it, you should be doing something before posting to me!! What is that you say? DEMAND THE TRUTH FROM THAT DICK HOAGLAND PUBLICLY!! OVER & OVER UNTIL DEMAND INCREASES! Until he cannot run from it any more!
You obviously can see enough that in what I am trying to do is to help you all GROW SOME NUTS & DEAMND THE TRUTH FROM HIM!
These Images, his connections to them, to his connections to THOSE BEHIND THE PROGRAM,... The OUR TEAM OF INTELLIGENCE! FROM THE SECRET INTELLIGENCE OF OUR OWN WORLD! Being clued in to us all as having a Masonic connection. Thanks to Mr. Sellier!
Thus also a Masonic connection to a certain 'MEMBER OF OUR TEAM', that is NOT wishing to be PHOTOGRAPHED is attributed here!? Or that NOT wished to Be photographed way back when neither! But it seems someone from 'OUR TEAM', wanted it to be known to us who his Team is or was?,... Telling us all now, that NOW, Hoagland is also RE-DISCOVERING 'OUR' HERITAGE, OF WHAT WE ONCE WERE!!! Can it be this certain 'MEMBER OF OUR TEAM' by making these connections, that we are being told, that he was once a MASON???
Now I wonder, why WOULD THAT be there at all?
However I really don't give a shit, I am focusing on these images of the FACES OF MARS! That is what I want, that is what I NEED! cont..
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "I think what you are confusing is the fact that I am laid back and am not getting all bent out of shape about what you describe happened. The thing with you and Hoagland is just that, something between you two because as you say it got "personnal".
MARS REVEALER: All bent outta shape ay? Maybe I am being MOLDED? Yes, it is PERSONAL, I also did say this was ugly didn't I? I am makin it a public fight!! So how about that ay?! But as it is & may, it aint just between us 2!! It is between us & HIM! Why? Because he is screwing over everyone,... 'EVERYONE...!!!" Whom he declared PUBLICLY ON HIS OWN FORUM, That OTHERS Do the SERIOUS LEGWORK. (A hint of this being a RACE?!) Yet he said to get him the information to help HIM do the investigation he said he would do for us all to get the truth & these images into all our hands!
See how that shit all worked out now ay?! To me, I think HIS TEAM,... Wanted us to see & have these images by now & it's information?? Because the TIMING of this code, in trying to study it & in trying to investigate also coincidentally opened up a dimensional doorway as it were, & THEY ARE DOING THE TALKING! Fingerpointing the way, hinting & riddling the way for us to help us see some interesting things.
Yet I feel it is a training course, that when through, the training will help me solve this code & reveal it's message?! That is a theoretical possibility here, amongst others I have.
Now as YOU yourself theoretically proposed, was that if it were me or someone else, he still would have acted & reacted the same way? Doing the same things right? Therefore he has done it to them all already by making an example of me! To THEM! That they shall see what hapens when someone dares to grow nuts & stand against Hoagland for the TRUTH! Putting fear of God as it were, into his Hobbits that worship him as a deity!
No serious Mars researcher will stand up to him about this,...
WHY? maybe they already experienced his BUTTRESS AY? That pussed them down maybe because they feared loss of themselves & their own?
You also said things were being done they are doing to me. I heard ya loud & clear there anonymous. But MY MESSAGE IS FOR THOSE THAT SEE & HEAR, THEY ARE THE RESISTANCE!!
Then this fight, aint just tween me & Super Hoagy neither! See the Logic??? But as it is, my main objective is to just get the truth about these pictures! About Super Hoagy, about his 'OUR TEAM', about the things they want us to see & know in this code, that it seems someone else, does NOT want us to see or know.
To me, it is obvious, there aint only ONE PLAYER in this GAME AS YOU CALL IT! As does & did Hoagland to me way back when.
Hmmmmmmm.
More research needed & evidence put forth by dueling players.
But I am beginning to see a stage in more ways than one of what this can also theoretically can possibly be.
I was public, therefore, he acting as the OPERATIVE HE IS... OR WAS,... HE ACTED AGAINST THE PUBLIC FROM US, WE THE PEOPLE, FROM GETTING TO SEE OR KNOW OF THIS KNOWLEDGE!
So My PERSONAL SIDES RUN TO DEEP THAN JUST MYSELF, in what I am trying to do here!!! It aint JUST myself I care about here also ya know!! This is bigger than myself! I try to keep that in mind.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "The best I can do is say that my impression of him makes it very clear to me that I cannot dismiss what you say happened."
MARS REVEALER: Obviously not Anonymous. You did after all have much interesting THEORETICAL POSSIBILITIES put forth that surely helped impressions some. But true, by your impression of him, it does make it very clear, you cannot dismiss what I say happened. That was & is obvious. cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "As far as my "theories" I can say that I try to deal in facts. If it is just an opinion/theory then I try not to forget to say so."
MARS REVEALER: Yes, I heard ya, you dealt that hand well, I think, Anonymous. Those were interesting Facts. Or FAX! ;-)
(You remind me of someone here, who I feel you can appreciate. I will tell & show you later as some is relevant I sesne.)
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "As far as following what you have been doing, yes I have read the things you have been doing but to be honest I could never make much sense of it until I watched some 3 part video you did recently."
MARS REVEALER: Well that's cool. To me it seemed obvious you were grasping some of the things to come up with some well thought out Hypothetical or theoretical possibilities in the facts you dealt. There is a method in this I use that maybe causes confusion. I also said from the very beginning, this was & would be a work in progress. This code describes ME as someone who is digging out a Pyramid. Teaching me basic Methods of archeology. Describing me as someone who uncovers from the DIRT, strange writings or heiroglyphics to which is trying to be cleaned & seen & deciphered. There appears to be a ROSETTA type stone aspect to this I also was able to uncover.
Now please stand with me a moment here. In continuing digging & seeing this lingo, & trying to decipher it, some progress was made. Some before others. It was obvious to me what the basic model I needed to do was. & that was to build a site, starting the breakdown of the audio & visual aspects, to allow me & hopefully us, to read more deeply tween the lines. Now things seen then, was put, but things NOT seen then, were not seen.
Things are still NOT seen & connected, that would allow us all to see more clearly the things we did not see before. UNLESS & UNTIL, enough progress or TIME, or more perhaps progress in this through time, would allow us to see this all more clearly NOW, rather as unto later.
So in essence this investigation into the code, & deciphering this lingo, was not meant to be gleaned & learned overnight! It admits itself is a product of process & progress, trial & error, being set up or designed a s some type of super computer program that is being given unto us all to show us how Intelligent Beings communicate across worlds, Solar Systems, Galaxies! But TIME is a importance somehow in that all of which also is trying to be shown & I think explained. IF I can gain access to those FILES as it were, that would allow me to open those drawers up in it's hidden LIBRARIES. That I feel would allow us also to do the same. Maybe they want a Reply??? Kinda like Aricebo but in a more twilight zonish way?! A way unheard of or undreamt?!
Now I know where I left my own markers as for instance in my web pages of varied breakdowns of what I see, whrre later I will & can come back & fix & make the changes necessary that would take away some of the confusion. That is why I asked for patience & understanding. Yeah rite. :-/
I admit my fault upon NOT being able to see it all clearly or well enough to PAINT THE PICTURES I SEE, that someone is doing through what I do put forth clearly can be seen, that someone else, is doing the painting! To me again, that is the REAL Martians, as this code suggests, &/or this secret Intelligence Group called 'OUR OWN....OUR TEAM'!! They may be one & the same. I am theortically prospecting that possibility! With Super Hoagy being outright in admittance when & if we see that FACET, that SOMEDAY, WE MAY DISCOVER THAT WE,... WERE THE MARTIANS AFTER ALL!! cont...
I mean come on I know how nuts I sound. But I am beyond that shit. Ha ha. If I were, there would be NO connections, no outside connections or attributes that enpower these connections & my theoretical possibilities with all this shit!
I see enough that I am at attention. TIME has helped me to progress as I studied & am archeologyin' the shit outta this THING, to be more clearer for you the way I have in those 3 parts videos you spoken about you seen. That helped you understand some things, yet ya lost me again.
Trust me, if you continue to follow my progress, hopefully I will have some or be allowed to. :-/ But if it is destined, than I know more will become clearer for you as well. There is MANY ASPECTS & MANY THINGS I SEE I have NOT told or shown.
Because I need more input to make the past connections or things seen better, so I can continue & put forth where this is leading US ALL! Where THEY (The Martians or OUR OWN) are leading us along this communication trying to be taken place.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Only after watching that did it make a little more sense than it did before. I believe it was the 2ND video where you seemed to calm down and quit wandering all over the place and laid out just what you were getting at. Part of the 3rd video was also quite good but toward the end you started losing me again."
MARS REVEALER: The 3rd part of the video I believe you may be referring to was something YOU & YOU & YOU ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN CLOSELY TO! because IT... DEMONSTRATES... IT... DEMONSTRATED!! I left the show off as if with a What The Fuck?? What type of ending was that, to MY POINT BEING PROVED! THAT THIS CODE.. THIS THING... IT.... DEMONSTRATED AS I was leading you to see. You missed me someplace that led you off that rail. No fault of me there. ;-)
You see, this code attests also that this ALIEN ARTIFACT BEING UNCOVERED, is a test of YOUR INtelligence also! & You & You & Yours & you all! It seems to be wanting you all also, to partake & see if any can go as far as I have, or to be even showing them something I THINK, they wanna see! I feel that something they want to see from us all. What? Why? I do not know. But if what I am able to see or able to do because of a test, I think it is good to show, that someone can see or do something with it??? I do see & sense an ALIEN PRESENCE of something or someone ADVANCED that may be trying also to speak or get a message out in this THING!
But if this is a GAME as you say & Super Hoagy even, I can only pray that I am doing something that is right, & for the good of us all, because the only other alternative here, is the opposite. But something very important is going on, that warrants this THING. I do sense that much & see that much.
making claims about me even, & my attributes I admit, is hard to believe,.... Like this question attributed,.. How long did Noah live??? You already heard the Candidate to be President, then goes off someplace else to add something also 'To Restore the Beaches.'
One thing I found clearly alarming in this in more ways than one, is ASTEROIDS... PARTS OF FORMER MOTHER PLANET.... SURVIVAL PROCEDURES.... START DIGGING IN! Those are but a few of the many things... even calling me an AMBASSADOR?!
Now as investigator into this strange shit, I must admit my theory about this being an ET communication as it were built in this code, we it appears, are being WARNED!!!! I have learned enough as I said, to see some things. I kinda feel like a fucking Nostradamus in this. Because it does have remarkable preciting phenommena unto this. I will NOT get into this now. cont...
But the importance of this ARTIFACT being uncovered, is as such I am treating it as being an Intelligence training course to be able to speak or communicate with beings from Mars, or from beyond the solar system, & maybe just maybe, even across dimesions?! I am not a scientist that would be able to theoretically be able to hypothesize my theories on this as a thesis or working model, but I think & feel & STRONGLY SENSE, I THINK WE HAVE A WORKING MODEL TO WORK WITH!!
That is a message I get quite clearly from this. The more clearer I am able to decipher & access the files this THING attains, & be able to show that clearly, the more this ITSELF will draw scientists conclusions themselves unto this THING that predicts itself will do one day. (part of the predicting nature shit there)
Look, I do NOT know or have all the fucking answers. That is why I am FIGHTING FOR US ALL TO DO & BE ABLE TO GET. I admit I cannot be the perfect guy for this, & I am far from a Super Hoagy, so the chances of me with this if it is NOT having me as an element as being apart of this artifact, then I hope there is someone out there that sees this, & not only confirms what I been trying to do & show, will clarify for all my efforts & vindicate me & even solve & show all this. because there is so much to this that I feel can transform all our lives, IF WE ARE ABLE TO SEE IT & Follow the LIGHT! NOT the darkness!
If this is what it appears to me as being, then I think someone wanted to give me an edge to use, maybe to use this as a SWORD against my enemies? Or OUR ENEMIES?! Kinda placing my/our enemies before me/us as a foot rest, or a sword holder. or more in my hope, this is something can can lead us out from the darkness, & into the light of a DAWN OF A NEW DAY! Where this cocmmunication of disclosure as it may be by the time I am through, will show of itself, & maybe be a show of shaking hands, rather than a demands or terms for war or to prevent one! Know what I mean????
So there is much avenues of study in this I have & am needed to keep eyes on to see where & WHEN THE NEXT CONNECTION, will make it another step closer to being the reality, & or the communication trying to be gleaned from space & time, stored as it were in compressed form, from a Ufo Diaries video. That connects to other things outside of Ufo Diaries. I think Ufo Diaries as a central Hub as it were, in computer terms. Or central command center for this code structure.
I am sure I lost ya again. See what I mean? If you cannot see what I am showing, how then can you be certain of the rules or things going on with me & this THING, this CODE, or of it's intents. That I find incredible without the data to see it. I am sure you appreciate where I am coming from.
ANONYMOUS SAID..." I'm glad you don't think I am messing around with you. I take the subject of Mars very seriously for reasons I rather not go into."
MARS REVEALER: I think honestly your doing something or are up to something, But I do not think messin with me is the goal. All I can say is that maybe sometime we can look into those things, because you rather not go into. Now anyway. if ever. But you came to this smog of a blog & wanted to talk. I am listening. As best I can anyway at the moment. :-/ cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "As far as my research, its all out there, all of it except one thing that involves a personnal experience."
MARS REVEALER: Well, I can actually say I have some some weird... Ummmm EXPERIENCES, so I think I feel something akin to that term that applies to your words. maybe I am wrong. I aint perfect or a super Hero or nuthin. :-/
But I am curious to know of ALL THAT IS OUT THERE of your research. Maybe even of that experience also. But only because you mentioned it. ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "I have no choice, its part of my mandate. It would not surprise me if you haven't already run across it but I cannot pimp it here, thats part of the agreement also."
MARS REVEALER: No choice ay? A mandate? Sounds on professional level type stuffs? Maybe some abbreviated letterings behind that mandate?
Maybe I have run across it, but then again, you talking but not talking leaves me only to be curious. I have enough curiousities to work on & figure out. You cannot Pimp it here neither shows that apart of your mandate is to appear here then ay? Hmmmm As long as a ManDate not FAX'S me bein fucked by you, then stay as long as you want. I know it aint much of a blog, but I admit you do bring good topics & good discussion. If only there were no crickets!
So this mandate disallows you from mentioning information here ay? But is ok that your here. If so, why are you here then & regards to your mandate, what the hell does that have to do with me & you in what we are trying to see in each others pages as it were?
You obviously want me to understand something from this all. It is somethings your alluding to & outright hinting & leaving alone on others. But it is leading to something. I will give ya that.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Those that are led to it will know why and what they need to do."
MARS REVEALER: Ok. you obviously had to attribute that. So in essence there is shit to be found that is meant to do some things. Seems kinda the norm lately. That must not include me in that mandate then ay? Because I am the opposite of that statement. At the moment anyway.
I know those words have meaning but what can I say? I wish I knew. cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "A long time ago you made the statement that you believed that a "Higher Than Human Intelligence" made the faces on mars. I will tell you now that you were correct as far as I am concerned based on that "personnal experience"."
MARS REVEALER: Again, feeling I can relate to Personal Experiences' factor. ;-) But yes, I do believe that a Higher Than Human Intelligence was maybe involved. If evolution in any way is correct, (which I dont bet on or believe much in) BUT if any truth can be in that, then I mean on a scale or level beyond us currently on our plain of evolutionary brain & skill capacity that allowed Mars to be DONE UP as it was. That is if these et's were human in terms of our genetics applied. Of course other than human in being & nature also this can mean as well.
Obviously. Those are parts of the many questions that come to my mind. As well as yours is obvious, regards to your well thought out theoretical models based upon your anonymous research. But in either case, yes, I do see & believe that to be the case. But till we go.....???
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "That Higher Intelligence is evil to the core just for your information."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmm. For my information??? All I have is your words on that without the work to show it. LIke superr Hoagy there in saying what he did & your miff with him about not showing or telling those conclusions.
I mean, not misunderstand me. I aint trying to be rude. I am being... fair!!! So how can I without those conclusions also, take that as for certainty? But yes,... alas, you may be right.
That piece of the puzzle is definitely on the table with others, of the MARTIAN REVELATION. As totally plausible models considering.... what we have to consider, to what FACTS.. OR FAX... WE HAVE & GET!!!
That is part of my fight ya know? To get us this FAX's & Images of Mysterious Pictures!!
But you do seem serious about your feelings on Higher Intelligence being evil to the core. You can also mean the Higher Intelligence that controls this shit also. ;-)
of course I have questions. But I know if you have something to say, you'd just say it right?
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "At the top of the food chain, as far as I know, is a female entity. When she looks at you it is a very uncomfortable feeling, its like a stare that goes right to your soul. Beautiful bitch but a bitch none-the-less."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmm. Is it against mandate to tell/show me more of her? Why mention her at all I wonder. Unless she is somehow connected? Again, maybe someday, we will be on the same page.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "I whimped out and left after only 5 seconds into the meeting. A lot of souls were lost on Mars and if they get their way there will be a repeat on earth. You can take that anyway you want to as I felt a need to throw it out there."
MARS REVEALER: Planet Of the Vampires now ay? ;-) But you wimped out after 5 minutes with HER you mean ay? 5 seconds rather. A meeting with others? A meeting with the Mandaters & her?? Can you provide details on your meeting/s?
So... the TOP is a BITCH you say ay? More meaning there than meets the eyes I am sure also. ;-) But until & if a time comes I know what you mean. Your words are noted.
A lot of souls were lost on Mars ay? Now why do I think that is something I really would like to know more of that story?
Then you say, If THEY get their way, there will be a repeat on earth? That depends, what is really on & In Mars as the reality, not what someone wants us to think. Especially without that speciffic information maybe your mandate knows ay?! cont...
But who is the THEY you refer to? The LOST SOULS of Mars?? That if they get their way, you say, there will be a repeat on Earth? Hmmm a repeat of what on Earth?? of what? UFO DIARIES, showing the Faces of Mars Mysterious Pictures of Old, yet New Data??
I can take that any way I want tells me there may be more FACETS to this statement than appears to the surface ay?
But I cannot know because your not willing or able to go there.
So...
ANONYMOUS SAID.. "As far as me controlling Hoagland because I was getting tired of waiting for him to disclose certain things then you would be wrong."
MARS REVEALER: I did not say you were controlling Hoagland. But you implied being ...impatient for him to do what theortetical processes you described about him were of course.
It seems you are wanting me to know about YOU. For some reason or another, in the least of you posting anonymously regarding this all, or something or other connected. I am here trying to listen. The thing I am concerned with, is wether or not we are on the same page as far as me & you go. I am still trying to see what ultimately your trying to say or bring forth, if anything, in your mandated purposes for posting here.
you already know my page I am on. So, I am continuing to listen.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "I am no different than you in that matter. You have a list of things you want him to disclose because of your agenda and I have a list of things I would like him to disclose because I think he does know about them."
MARS REVEALER: My agenda? Hmmmm... But yes, there is a list of things I do want him to disclose & Other things I want him to do!
yet you say that you also, have a LIST of things you would also like him to disclose, because you think he does know about them?? Hmmmm. About what? Your list? Mine?? or BOTH??? if so, what chance is there in me seeing your list? If & is it a connection to the things on my list? Can these 2 be joined?
Would that in what I am trying to say I think, is can that or will that be better for all to see this, or what I need to make added connections?
Can it help me in my investigation? Can it help vindicate me?
can it help me pay him back for the things he gave to me & mine? The enemy of My enemy.. as the saying goes, therefore, is a freind in need??
I think & know he knows about the things on my list. But what if...?????
cont... (much more tomorrow to reply in all ya said...)
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Like I said earlier, I have never met or spoken to him like you have, but for better or worse he is positioned as the gatekeeper in this Mars stuff so he has the ears of millions of people."
MARS REVEALER: Yes, you did say that in ways. But you also said that For Beter or Worse attributed for me, being 'SELECTED' as is positioned, by which you not yet explain to me on. Or is the position you mean me being FUCKED?? By me being the bottom & all, & Super Hoagy the Top, this code described it being as, telling me I needed to RE-ORIENT MYSELF! Ha ha ha ha. I have to laugh! But serious, scary, & still really unknown to me what this all really is. I have to keep my sense of humor. But this is my LIFE!! You also said I should be HONORED! By being fucked??? That aint an honor to me! :-/
I yet cannot wait to see a reply to that! Unless I am obviously on the wrong page here?! Then please do... allow the light to shine!
No offence of course. I mean being fair & all.
So again yes, he has the ears of millions.... playin em all for suckaz!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Its just the simple reality of the situation you have to deal with. No reason to read more into it than is there."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmm. Really now? But how do you know or did you know I would & DO read more deeply into that?? yes,... You been thinking this through before you replied to me.
If I have to DEAL WITH HIM, I hope it will be on better terms than is looking forward now??? But somehow I see truth in your statement for whatever facet applies. yet you also know the page I am on. So the point in your meaning still leads us all to....?????
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "If I did have any power I think I could just pick up the phone and call Hoagland and say "Dick, I want you to disclose this next". LOL."
MARS REVEALER: ha ha ha. Yes, that would be nice. As I tried to do countless times before myself. ha ha ha ha ha. But since this is so funny, I am not after all being apart of any mandated abbreviations that want me to talk to you. Thus brings you here with their knowing & restrictions, upon what message or messages, your bringing out here to say, yet not say.
So is this shit a shakedown??? You KNOW my stance already! I am no super hero, But no super villan neither! I am sure I would be dead already if I were that much a threat. I am convinced of that. yet, HELP came to me from the Twilight Zone. Connected to those BEHIND THE PROGRAM, WHO CREATED THE FUCKING THING. But being the Martians themselves.
As I said Anonymous or whoever you are. I appreciate you replying here & is great communication topics if this was a thriving sphere. But it is what it is. I have enough weird shit on this plate & not the TIME to do what needs to be done, & more & more without the tools as time progresses. But all in all spooky man, I still am maybe writhing... etc... I guess I shall say laugh it up. But be warned, if I do get the right edge I need, I will I promise, be much to worry about .....
I guess it is obvious I am leery of you. Yet something of me likes ya. It is understandble by you of course, being anonymous & all, so you can understand my frustration in trying to figure you out, if you indeed are connected to this or not. Again, till something solid comes my way as evidence, I not mean Bullets (assholes), but I mean something of FACTS OF FAX of Certain Mysterious Pictures, & to whom is doing the talking?? cont...
Your mandated men of super heroes want you to be discreet to me with their knowledge your here. Thus them seeing what I am saying. They want me to cringe in fear of their power?? They want to impress upon me as their example to all, for us all as future generations to see & understand the colossal powers living in their own planets???
Maybe they are laughing now. Maybe you along with them ay? So forgive me but your impression here upon me in this FACET, shows & tells me that I am at a table of sorts. I am listening to what you have to say. But I am not getting my questions answered it seems neither. Maybe as I read on your replies I will see any?!
Who am I? yes, I agree. Who the fuck am I?? Great question on many facets I have. Anyway, yet it remains that a mandated abbreviated mandate is here at my smog of a blog, to communicate something to a nobody, as you keep hinting at regards to me by the way! I aint stupid! Millions of listeners, compared to what I had to what less I have now. So I do NOT appreciate that tone with me. You wanted me at your table. I am sitting. My 1st question I demand answered is this... FRIEND??/... OR FOE??? Then start talkin & showin'.
Remember this, you can possibly destroy my body. You CANNOT & WILLNOT.... GET MY SOUL!! maybe this is where your alluding your topics & theoretical theories my way, for me to understand something. That maybe would make me react or do what???
WHAT IS OR WAS YOUR INTENTION of speaking to me? Your obviously on the notice of those that put you on notice regards to me here & you here.
So am I to interpret this is being TERMS to be given? Or why the importance or need to come forth & speak at all, unless something important is needed to be said?!
I wish you did have that power to Juss call Hoagland & say Dick, I want You to Disclose Next! ha ha ha... That aint my way there ok? ;-)
Keep his clothes on... But from what I seen & heard someplace, it seems someone had already disclosed him... from something NASA sent him to as their rep, Gee Selliers words were what??? "WE GOT EM FROM NASA WE GOT EM FROM HOAGLAND,... THERE YOU ARE!! ONE OF HIM'S GONNA SAY YEAH.... THOSE ARE OURS!!! ha ha ha ha ha
So Noooo.. No connections to the Code of Cydonia & Super Hoagy & to where I heard that story. Ohhhh..Might you be familiar with that particular legend that Hoagland also IGNORED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT!!??!!
Your mandated men of super heroes want you to be discreet to me with their knowledge your here. Thus them seeing what I am saying. They want me to cringe in fear of their power?? They want to impress upon me as their example to all, for us all as future generations to see & understand the colossal powers living in their own planets???
Maybe they are laughing now. Maybe you along with them ay? So forgive me but your impression here upon me in this FACET, shows & tells me that I am at a table of sorts. I am listening to what you have to say. But I am not getting my questions answered it seems neither. Maybe as I read on your replies I will see any?!
Who am I? yes, I agree. Who the fuck am I?? Great question on many facets I have. Anyway, yet it remains that a mandated abbreviated mandate is here at my smog of a blog, to communicate something to a nobody, as you keep hinting at regards to me by the way! I aint stupid! Millions of listeners, compared to what I had to what less I have now. So I do NOT appreciate that tone with me. You wanted me at your table. I am sitting. My 1st question I demand answered is this... FRIEND??/... OR FOE??? Then start talkin & showin'. cont...
Remember this, you can possibly destroy my body. You CANNOT & WILLNOT.... GET MY SOUL!! maybe this is where your alluding your topics & theoretical theories my way, for me to understand something. That maybe would makeYour mandated men of super heroes want you to be discreet to me with their knowledge your here. Thus them seeing what I am saying. They want me to cringe in fear of their power?? They want to impress upon me as their example to all, for us all as future generations to see & understand the colossal powers living in their own planets???
Maybe they are laughing now. Maybe you along with them ay? So forgive me but your impression here upon me in this FACET, shows & tells me that I am at a table of sorts. I am listening to what you have to say. But I am not getting my questions answered it seems neither. Maybe as I read on your replies I will see any?!
Who am I? yes, I agree. Who the fuck am I?? Great question on many facets I have. Anyway, yet it remains that a mandated abbreviated mandate is here at my smog of a blog, to communicate something to a nobody, as you keep hinting at regards to me by the way! I aint stupid! Millions of listeners, compared to what I had to what less I have now. So I do NOT appreciate that tone with me. You wanted me at your table. I am sitting. My 1st question I demand answered is this... FRIEND??/... OR FOE??? Then start talkin & showin'.
Remember this, you can possibly destroy my body. You CANNOT & WILLNOT.... GET MY SOUL!! maybe this is where your alluding your topics & theoretical theories my way, for me to understand something. That maybe would make me react or do what???
WHAT IS OR WAS YOUR INTENTION of speaking to me? Your obviously on the notice of those that put you on notice regards to me here & you here.
So am I to interpret this is being TERMS to be given? Or why the importance or need to come forth & speak at all, unless something important is needed to be said?!
I wish you did have that power to Juss call Hoagland & say Dick, I want You to Disclose Next! ha ha ha... That aint my way there ok? ;-)
Keep his clothes on... But from what I seen & heard someplace, it seems someone had already disclosed him... from something NASA sent him to as their rep, Gee Selliers words were what??? "WE GOT EM FROM NASA WE GOT EM FROM HOAGLAND,... THERE YOU ARE!! ONE OF HIM'S GONNA SAY YEAH.... THOSE ARE OURS!!! ha ha ha ha ha
So Noooo.. No connections to the Code of Cydonia & Super Hoagy & to where I heard that story. Ohhhh..Might you be familiar with that particular legend that Hoagland also IGNORED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT!!??!! me react or do what???
WHAT IS OR WAS YOUR INTENTION of speaking to me? Your obviously on the notice of those that put you on notice regards to me here & you here.
So am I to interpret this is being TERMS to be given? Or why the importance or need to come forth & speak at all, unless something important is needed to be said?! cont...
I wish you did have that power to Juss call Hoagland & say Dick, I want You to Disclose Next! ha ha ha... That aint my way there ok? ;-)
Keep his clothes on... But from what I seen & heard someplace, it seems someone had already disclosed him... from something NASA sent him to as their rep, Gee Selliers words were what??? "WE GOT EM FROM NASA WE GOT EM FROM HOAGLAND,... THERE YOU ARE!! ONE OF HIM'S GONNA SAY YEAH.... THOSE ARE OURS!!! ha ha ha ha ha
So Noooo.. No connections to the Code of Cydonia & Super Hoagy & to where I heard that story. Ohhhh..Might you be familiar with that particular legend that Hoagland also IGNORED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT!!??!! cause that is what it is gonna take to shut me up! If there is an enemy that whatever it is I am trying to deal with, & if I can learn & use it to our advantage, I will use it to DESTROY MY ENEMIES!! is that what is on the minds of those that are watching you??? if so, they know their answer. Who am I? Yet I ask, who will I be remembered as?? Will I even be remembered at all? At least I am alive & I have a dream! I do not think it may match to someone elses agenda. Is that what this is about?
I however do NOT wish to abuse this for it's powers that may be contained. But I am more interested in the benefits & the opportunities this can bring all humanity, in our place amongst the heavens in communication & being in touch as it were, with the other higher intelligences & advanced civilizations out there that may be potential allies or guides, or juss plain friends.
Yes, a Little Captain Kirkish.... But alas, I grew up watching Star Trek since single digit age. M mind was PRIMED FOR MY VISION & MY DREAM I HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST & LIVE OUT!!!
I am NOT in this to hurt anyone or start shit with secret societies & any super heros or super villans for that matter. Cause... WHO AM I??? So, your presence here now & all this great conversation has me seated wondering what you really want to or are trying to say.
I do respect what your saying, please respect my side & my point on this. Thus my attitude as it were. You not wanna say nuthing??? Coool. What do ya got for me?? Do you wish to aid my efforts?? Or thwart them??
Can you help me help add pressure to Super Hoagy?? I mean why is this table here of it were not for something that one or both of us can give to one another??? I just want to understand & be on the same page, as I said before! cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID... "Another thing is this "TEAM" you keep referring too. Members of what team? Are you talking about the "Team" of people like yourelf that "volunteered" to help Hoagland do research?"
MARS REVEALER: Hmmm. Well, depends what FACET you look at, as usually there are more than one! :-/
But this TEAM I keep referring to is what the code keeps referring to THEMSELVES!!! THOSE BEHIND THE PROGRAM THAT HOAGLAND WAS OR IS A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM... A MEMBER OF OUR OWN!!
So the mystery really to try to figure out here is screw that Dick Hoagland, who are these OUR OWN TEAM GUYS???!! because again, it is as if they are the real ones doing the talking here!!! In this code I mean that presents itself now in the future, from whence it was made, in the past! To us all to figure out who this is?! It is obvious Hoagland knows, as you also are sure of, but he is running in another direction. You never met the man yourself or spoken to him you say. Is it safe to assume your mandate friends have?
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Or are you talking about some "Team" behind the scenes that put the codes on that TV program?"
MARS REVEALER: Some Light! maybe you need to listen to some more of my past stuffs in this, as it is not perfect, yet much more should come in understanding. With you keeping that in mind. I will place some links later. Then I can only hope you have patience enough to go through it all closely, & see what it paints?!
But yes, that is one Facet to that.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "I think you are forgetting that I was not there and so these small details tend to confuse me."
MARS REVEALER: So it seems. But someone you know maybe was??? I know I have heard it all before... I CANNOT EXPLAIN THAT, SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW (something he didn't yes neither) yada yada yada...
But maybe in your case it is the truth. Again, we are at this table. I am trying to listen.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "If so then why would you think they were not messing with you? You can imagine that I am messing with you but not the people that put that code in the TV program?"
MARS REVEALER: Again, you were quick to judge I TRUSTED ANYONE in this! However I made it clear more support is given from these behind the program, for wanting to help me or help me connect some things, that to me outweighs much concern they are the ones wishing me harm. But maybe... yes I have considered that.The fact is I don't know! But I am certain that this TEAM called OUR OWN has coded information about themselves, about Super Hoagy there, about these faces of Mars mysterious pictures etc etc. That someone wants/wanted us to see!!
That Hoagland for some reason, not wanted to be photographed in connection with way back when, & their team, or someone in it behind this code, wanted to call him out now in the future to rediscover his heritage of things they built on Mars. Surprise surprise it seems!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "You gave them credit for telling you in the codes that they want Hoagland to come clean and you feel that that information is completely legit?"
MARS REVEALER: Someone is speaking through this code or these codes! That I am certain! I also will say again, bearing in mind my investigation, my deciphering information I felt led me to see more of the story behind this shit, that connects & connected itself,... Get this, MAINLY DUE TO HIS OWN WORDS & ACTIONS TO ME!!! As well as to the creators of the program itself!
For instance, the code described & detailed a hearing in the past that took place. It was eerie. I was attributed as being in the middle. The inner chamber or inner court as it were is the inside of this code structure. Described as being a pyramid. So I in effect am in the middle chamber, in essence I am the cleared as being the COURT CLERK! With someone appearing to give a signature as it were, to form a summons to have someone appear to another hearing. NOW!!! IN THE FUTURE!! Think of it as it has been described as being A RE-HEARING!!
Because, the petitioner himself, stated that is what it is & that the past hearing he was not happy at the results. So now, in the future, he is having a case issued against THAT DICK HOAGLAND TO APPEAR TO HIS SUMMONS TO APPEAR & COME ON THE RECORD.... COME CLEAM... NOT WHITEWASH THE LIES OF STALIN!
Amongst a list of other statements & claims & attributes connecting to him!
Now, as I said,... This hearing was in the past, where a case was heard, & judged upon regards to Hoagland, & the petitioner of this code, this WRIT OF LAW, BEING SERVED UNTO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED TO APPEAR ON THE RECORD!
It is weird! This code shows me processes & conceptions of investigating, to building a case, to presenting court orders! Anyway, it seems that the Petitioner (who signed his name to this new case file opened as it were who is responsible for this being here) is named 'HIS PROFOUND RESPECT.... CHARLES!'
Now mind you at this point it is as if the code & me were at that point & time, actually communicating. cannot explain that all now, but I swear that is what it appeared to me as. He was serious & real pissed off!
Detailed in his ammendments as it were to his motion to call Hoagland forth, he decrees that it seems way back at this hearing, HIS PROFOUND RESPECT CHARLES, looked ahead in TIME, from the past before the hearing, & forseen the outcome from that trial. Where it seems Hoagland, was the defendant. It was HIS PROFOUND RESPECT CHARLES it seems, who was also in that court room as it were, where he obviously not liked what happened. You with me here so far? Ok...
Described in this Court hearing PAGE as it were to this code, was detailing the court room itself. That Hoagland The Judge & His Profound Respect himself, were in discussing charges. It seems against Hoagland. Brought up by His Profound Respect himself at that hearing as well. Something dealing with the Soviets, information given or illegally transferred or obtained that was a blow to this intelligence group (who maybe is the OUR OWN?) THAT WAS PISSED AT THE HARM Hoagland caused for them. This demand also came from him, THEY WANT THEIR MONEY BACK?! From Hoagland. They want to be paid back was the exact term. Boy, I can relate to that! :-/
It describes Hoagland in that past hearing acting as if he had done nothing wrong, saying all he needed to do & that he needed to do was to do his job. In financial terms as well, was to continue & do his work. But I still think they want their money back! cont...
Now Hoagland denied the charges in whatever those exactly were it described, & that Hoagland smiled alot about things. Being a smart ass in the hearing as well being one to to His Profound Respect, the accuser it seems. Playing down the charges it seems he was doing.
Now, in retrospect to the info of this code, as ridiculous & nuts it seems, keep with me.In retrospect to this code, His Pofound Respect states that this what was needed to be done, was as a descriptive act. Of needing to take a child outside to spank. It was kinda funny how all this came together. yet can it be possible?? This should NOT even exist! Now bear in mind that was a descriptive analogy of what was needed to be done from His Profound Respect looking ahead in time before the hearing & seeing the outcome, again which he disfavored!! Obviously or there would be no need of a re-hearing! ;-)
So I thought that logical & also consistent to the story that seemed to be unfolding in this FILE I was able to access in this code. meant to appear? I think is possible, but maybe a happenstance because of what I discovered that allowed me to open that file. As I said, this is weird. I agree! ;-)
So anyway & again, this past hearing was heated. Hoagland & the Judge it seems was tighter than maybe what appears on the surface? For His Profound Respect notes that the Judge went slim on Super Hoagy, because of.... NEPOTISM!!! getting basically a slap on the wrist as compared to the justice His Profound Respect had in mind, for the crimes that hearing was going on for.
This is very important I feel, because connectons of this came NOT from this code alone, but confirmation as it were, from Hoagland himself, spazzing to me freaking out in his own wordsno less showing me there was merit to this code after all & in what I was doing. Because HOW CAN HE CONFIRM WHAT SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE?? I will tell ya what that is soon enough. I just want you to be sure of your statements to me as what is right or wrong here in intentions of the creators of this code.
Anyway, so the biggy in this is the JUDGE! That heard this case it seems. A secret hearing for secret folks. Ya know? ;-)
But desscribed was attributes that led me to come to the conclusion of the identity being described to us in that code of who the Judge was. This also gives us all a Time frame of this past hearing.
The code called attributes of Identity to someone named.... 'NEW ENERGY BILL!' Who also is given us more attributes to identify an identity. This Judge was called NEW ENERGY BILL, WHO WAS A GOVERNOR, WHO WAS CANDIDATE TO BE PRESIDENT!!!!
That the hearing was judged by Bill Clinton while he was Governor, & a candidate at the time, to be president!
New Energy Bill. Takes on a comical meaning also to add added attribute of identification to the identity. Maybe as a confirmatory addition that we are on the same page?! Interesting concept nonetheless I say!
Anyway, New Energy Bill appears to be the Judge. he is not opnly Judge but something else... attributed that declared him as being something else... something secret. Alluded to I think & sense, was or is a secret society. It was that type of attribute. Anyway, this hearing took place & preseen of the outcome.
That became an edge benefit on benefit of His Profound Respect getting his Justice. Looking through time to see the outcome??? Think about it! Now, as I said, he had already a plan in works at that hearing, unbeknowest to Super Hoagy there, that allowed His Profound respect Charles, to move & act quickly as is was described. Work quickly to take the child out to spank, & bring him back in to sit.
So it seems as being attributed that Super Hoagy & new Energy Bill share something similar as like unto a family business. NEPOTISM!! Thus the light sentence?! Thus pissin off His Profound Respect. cont...
Hope your with me. if not, go back & read again! Because it is important I feel to mention this. So new Energy Bill is described as having Hoagland sign a declaration of his innocence, yet is somehow punished by stripping him of some of his powers?! I am not sure but that is what I gleaned. It seems that one of Hoagland's excuses was that what happened actually did NOT happen, because he was a document order as it were, unto himself, chartered by congress. Whatever that means. That he is to lend support & reinforce the BIG STRUCTURE when needed. Thus a connection clarification to the BUTTRESS!! Attributed as being Hoagland also. yes, in more ways than one Facet there ay? ;-)
Again, that sense of Humor thing. So as doing whatevr he did or does or maybe still does, he had to face some consequences for the crimes that was brought against him. he could not get off scott free. But leniancy was given. Obviously. I got that point.
So New Energy Bill as I said, as the code shows, that he had Hoagland sign a declaration of Innocence. Plus he was ordered to do things for His Profound Respect it seems as part of his punishment. Thinking he gotten over His Profound Respect Charles he immediately signs the order of the Judges findings & demands etc etc. Now think about this closely. he signs a DOCUMENT, that he as also being a document, as an entity unto himself, as an agency maybe, is signing his declaration of innocence.
Now think about His Profound Respect in what is going through his mind as Hoagland is all smiles & being a wise ass acting like he gotten over, is signing a declartion of innocence. I think now after all this, Hoagland now sees this as a signature of a confession of Guilt! That is how it must have appeared in His profound Respects eyes also as Hoagland signed.
You see, he had time to manuever to ensure that Hoagland was fitted into a justice system. One to unfold in the future for a future re-hearing of the matter. being served a warrant to appear as it were through me, the clerk of the inner court to this pyramid under the cover of a circle. The surface. This aint nonsense as Hoagland describes the same damm things!! I just see it underneath better now than before. ;-)
Anyway, there is a list of things I can state that was on that page between His Profound Respect & myself. The page I tried to make for it was also looking confusing to most that seen or read it. But I laid it out enough that when I go back to it, better clarity I can & will make. But a trail I am leaving also for myself. A work in progress.
Now this hearing & the addition of being told TIME was forseen through to allow time to prepare by His Profound Respect Charles, to have embedded within the already known outcome, of what things to add in place, that can be added & used to have Hoagland perform & serve as it were his sentence.
I do not think Hoagland knew what was coming as when we spoken about that way back when. Again, when his own words CONFIRMED THIS SO CALLED NONSENSE!! I knew I was onto something, a method that appeared to be working. Providing information. he freaked about it. You know what he said, instead of saying as I said to him, I am sure it is nonsense or not true, it cannot be, but he wanted me to tell him things I was seeing,.... So he says NO GARY! THIS IS NOT TRUE!! (which I thought also & you I am sure as well would think) Then he says... I NEVER MADE IT THERE!!!!!! I DECIDED TO GO TO A ...'PROTEST' INSTEAD!!! he confirmed the reality of this codes info by attributing direct knowledge yet alone connection to such a hearing. Thiough the 2 sides story is different! His profound Res[pect goes into MUCH DETAIL, & Hoagland says, HE NEVER APPEARED THERE???!! cont...
Who am I to believe now looking back ay?? Someone is still waitin on to be appearing on the record to TESTIFY as it were, for this RE-HEARING!! he has indeed... BEEN SERVED! Where TICK TOCK... comes out in description of answering to His Profound Respect's call to appear for his new appeal for a re-hearing to take place. It seems it already is regardless of what Super Hoagy wants. I was & am caught in the middle. being the clerk of court & all. The jusry I am to think is to be the Public. The Judge??? I cannot make myself that nor did it really appear in code that way. because I am a victim & my judicial stance would be somewhat compromised would it not? So I thought that logical.
Maybe the Judge was & Is His Profound Respect Charles?! As this was his plan to have this re-hearing in the future.
he goes on & on & on attributing ammendments to his signature identifying him to Hoagland making demands from him as he signs this to me into court as it were to validify this case against Hoagland. As spooky as this all sounds & is, it does follow a law method being respected by his Profound Respect.
Now why is this important? Because part of Hoaglands punishment was to help create something. I believe it was his parts to be played behind & as well as on the scences of Ufo Diaries.
In essence it would be logical to assume he was meant to create his own future court hearing?! Now think about this, why did His Profound Respect Charles do this?? Because once Hoaglands signature went down, & also the New Energy Bill's signature, it becomes LAW! So any punishments thought appropriate for Hoagland would have to be ready & embedded within those documents he signed for New Energy Bill. Ok, that makes sense. Right?! So after that Law goes into effect, His Profound Respect would be scewed where his Justice was concerned. But there is no law saying one cannot look through time, to punish someone deemed appropriate unto his charges. So that became an edge to use to still be able to call out Super Hoagy & defend himself this time in another hearing, where he is being summoned to appear now on the record being told to come clean, amongst the many other things.
You know something more remarkable?? yet clarifying also?? is the fact that Hoagland said after he said he never appeared because he decided to go to a protest instead. I asked him why, he said that he was WITH DICK MORRIS ON THEIR WAY TO THE HEARING, & that he got out & left before they went into the place. That was Hoagland's words!!! DICK MORRIS??? It seems he is the same Dick Morris that helped Bill Clinton to become President!!!! Connections Most Intriguing ay?? Hoagland names names & confirms this code. yet tells a different story. he should at least as I have said, do that on the record so that this His profound Respect can be happy he appeared at least!
But he would not. he set me up isntead tirating & tantrumming for me to get off this train, to drop this Gary,... Do something else. Do Your own research on Mars, as if I was somehow tresspassing on him or something. Cause he was acting like a little BITCH!
I knew then I was definitely onto something more than the things immediately or not so immediately seen on the surface or beneath it. But it is there! cont...
Therefore, by this being there & by Hoagland attributing connection & even knowledge of events I see in a code that should NOT exist, it helped me to adjust myself in thinking what I stumbled upon & started me having to look at him more as a suspect rather than a witness to something.
It appears I was right! Now I will add another thing, His Profound Respect makes clear in the end of his signature & stipulations given & demanded of Hoagland, for his case for me to summons Hoagland with, he wants Hoagland to be clear on this part especially. That THE OFFICES OF THE PRESIDENT'S WHITE HOUSE WAS BUGGED! I am assuming to attribute connections to the hearing that took place. It seems they want him to know & understand they have something, even signed documents. Oh If we can only find those ay?? ;-)
But they wanted him to know that especially. So whatever his part to play is, your right on it seems to your theoretical possibilites there, that Hoagland was forced to do work with his super Friends, that included work for Ufo Diaries, & whatevr His Profound Respect Charles was doing that needed him. Plus stipulated in Hoagland's CONTRACTS with new Energy Bill, was use & provision of these MYSTERIOUS IMAGES SHOWING FACES OF MARS. OLD YET NEW DATA THE PUBLIC NEVER SEEN BEFORE!! Plus, to PLAY HIS ROLES.
His Profound Respect asserts that Hoagland cheated the contract by breaching to demand alot of money from His Profound Respect Charles, to use these images. Plus pissing him off more, was his breach of contract to play his role/s.
That was already testified, attributed & connected by what Lee Shackleford & Chuck Sellier had to say!! That helped me to see those connections of information given in this code that allowed me to see this picture being painted.
Hoagland also not wanted to play in his roles to this. I wonder why? Can you really also?? is it not obvious he did not wish to play his role because he NOT wished to be Photographed in connection to them or with them??? Thus as like we seen, in the future since his played or unplayed parts took place, this is now coming to show his photograph in this anyway??? That aint no coincidence there!!! Nor is it nonsense! As he wishes all to think this is!
So a rehearing in essence is logical to explain all this. Hey, at least there appears to be something of a reason that one can understand. yet is it true?? Hoagland has yet to appear!!!
So until then so he can prove this time in reality, to the court of public opinion, where the people are the jury, all we can go on to believe is that already given by those that bring this case against him. JUDGEMENT DAY AS IT WERE!!!!
But for him in this case.
It definitely is consistent to that Law scenario & is played out like one as well by having him not wishing to appear for the court! Therefore, this may have been forseen also, as His Profound Respect threw him another bone to chew on. FAILING TO APPEAR, WILL RESULT IN AN ARREST ISSUED! The type of Arrest is scary as I told Hoagland & I was concerned. His Profound Respect made it clear also failing to appear to his summons to appear & come clean, will have an issue of arrest come upon him. Upon which his chest will be cracked open, & hundreds will appear at his funeral.
That prophetic remarkable predicting phenomena going on there again! :-/
It aint my fault if that happens, especially when I also am NOT just the cleark of court to serve Hoagland, but I also am a witness unto being against the defendant, as he hurt me & did crimes to me & mine to prevent me from investigating something he wants to remain secret.
Therefore my testimony in a court of law as it were, would also be helpful to any prosecution. certainly in his defence is null, as he not even appears to his own hearing.
We are at where we are at now still in his denial & refusal to appear to his summons. Thinking this will last or he will beat this system. I see & know I can use it to beat him in more ways than one. Sculpting the Hills of that Buttress. With constant meteoric bombardment rain! You will see & learn the relevance in that in my next MR Hoagy show painting! He confirms much if anyone can see enough of it to get it.
I am calling that next show... A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM REVISITED! 8 long parts... But consitent & leading you all to where he explains what I am doing, what I am trying to do, & even still, encouraging me as it were to continue on. How odd.
I know & see this all is spooky but I am trying to look past all that & focus instead of the information being finger pointed to me & to us all of that DICK HOAGLAND!! These faces of Mars secret images & his connection to OUR OWN TEAM, & being called out. I am NOT the one who is being finger pointed in such a way by this OUR TEAM, (I hope anyway) accept by them seeing me who is trying to bring this summons forth. Because they are doing the talking in this code & they know Hoagland sees & knows this to be true, as after all, he is A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM!!!
So back to your question that got me passionate here,...
quoting Anonymous... "You gave them credit for telling you in the codes that they want Hoagland to come clean and you feel that that information is completely legit?"
MARS REVEALER: I SEE & THINK IT BE LEGITAMATE ENOUGH!!!! Especially with me as being a witness & a victim, to demand justice also! So yes, it is legitamate enough. he knows it as well. I am sure of that! What do you know or your super friends know that can prove otherwise???
Because how can anyone attribute truth to someone that will not even appear for the record to rebutt what has been alleged by them, by me, by this code etc. So again, till other evidence is brought forth or Super Hoagy appears to testify & answer for the record these questions, rebutting these issues & claims, to defend himself, how can one be sure. I think we will have a clue for certain, if & when the punishment of arrest appears for him, & for many doubters, now won't we?!
That aint my fault.
As I said, it is yet to be determined on many facets to this code THING! Who is telling thE truth, who aint,... who is friend, who is foe, WHO AM I,... But enough is there already to put forth & demonstrate, & also convince me this is something needed to be studied. That someone is pasing information to us all inside it. That it is safe to determine veracity especially when it is the truth in many regards I can attest to & witness that allows me to think some anyway, is very legit!
But I hear what your saying, & I do appreciate your thoughts. It was a good question I admit. cont...
Sorry you may not have gotten the answer you expected or wanted. But I just felt I had to throw that out there. There is alot of meat to answer for your question. That should help much answer that I think. But the veracity is to be determined.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Quote MR: The best way no one to figure out anything, is NOT to put something out there to begin with! This is what does not add up.
Thats what I am trying to tell you. They have no choice but to put it out there. If they want to do anything it has to be hidden in plain sight. The humans have to have the chance to figure it out. If they cannot then thats great for the bad guys. Its the rules that they have to play by."
MARS REVEALER: To me, that still not makes any sense. I hear what your saying, I understand the concept your saying. I guess. But what I am saying, is that it does not add up. I am ignorant & not in the know about such things. You appaently have knowledge & some understanding with your attributing connections of some kind to what I am trying to do to what your trying to paint here.
The HUMANS have to have a chance at figuring it out huh? really now? That is interesting. Why is that? Though at least I am appreciative of that concept. I think. But no choice? On whose rules? It is great for the bad guys to not figure this out. Now that makes sense!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Its why just about anything they do has been told in a movie at one time or anther but it is hidden among a ton of other crap."
MARS REVEALER: These are things that still ignorance plays a part. But I can attribute opinion that what you say may indeed be true.
Look man, or MEN,... I aint trying to fuck with anyone. I just want soem answers about some fucking FACES OF MARS MYSTERIOUS PICTURES, & their reference infoz, confirming without that DICK HOAGLAND, by by passin this PLUG altogether in the pipeline of information being stopped up by him, & maybe we can progress some?!
That confirmation would be vindicting to me & my efforts at TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH about these pics & their locations & giving my universal salute to some, & a whoop dee doo to some others, & continue on, doing my Mars work &/or anything else I would want to do. But as for now, until this is through, I am seeing it till it is through. This is a game to you it seems & others, but this is MY LIFE & powers of God type shits going on here that I am beyond my control or ability to do anything about, are being used & has been used. To maybe make me think something. As I said to Hoagland if it is all lies it is lies. The fascination to me, is the structure of this code to begin with as TRUTH can be laid over it as well as lies. The model is the artifact in general I think. These are descriptions it describes itself as being as.
I admit it is like a wild Indiana Jones type stuffs & National Treasure movie type aspects to this all. It seems you have knowledge is what your trying to bring to this table it seems. You say my code eforts may be key to your research in some way maybe not exactly in those words you stated?! Right? But that research is unknown to me. Probably....Maybe I am sure.
Like Hoagland said to me once during a show we did together, THERE HAS TO BE A PONY IN HERE SOMEPLACE!!! Because of the other ton of crap inside. ;-) cont...
That is what I feel is going on here. Lies & deception is everywhere. I only want the Truth! I never wanted a Pony to begin with! But someone this code says, decided to draw a circle, then was told to draw him a Horse. Interesting coincidences. :-/
But I still do not understand the who, the why, the how, the intents, etc.... of what picture our trying to paint without saying too much to make me believe what you say neither. Though I am noted of things you say. Interesting stuffs. Fascinating... Fascinating indeed!
But.. again, here we are at this table. WHAT do you want or need or are ordered to say?
I am assuming off info you gave me in all this, that is why I ask that. Certainly you can understand my position. You allude that you do very well in fact.
So I am listening.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Quote MR: Now with 3 deaths in my family that would not have occured if we were not forced to leave!!
Do you see how frustrating this is to me? I make statements in response to what you said happened with Hoagland and then you throw new things like that out there which of course puts a whole new spin on it. Of course you are the only one that knows why you attribute those deaths to Hoagland. That's getting way too personal for me and and something that is none of my business."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmmm. really now. I hope it is none of your Business! Then this table we are at I become more becoming more at attention to what your really here for to say.
Because as you can imagine, I am trying to work on this code & other investigations stemmed from this same investigation that I am also trying to work on. Which obviously is why we are at this table now?
I yet to detrmine your business with those you say are overlooking you here. Because your here for them in my opinion. if all that is true of course. But I am respecting your statements to respect them as serious.
So,.... What is it ? What am I to think here? An interrogation? You fishing for something I think anyone can see that. Maybe someone will also see that & wanna comment about that. You do make room for great discussion! ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Quote MR: OK, here is a question, those you VOLUNTEERED for are the same ones who SELECTED me? I really want more input from you if possible regards to this.
Yes. We are again getting into the Spiritual Realm again. They are the ones that lead you to places. They are the ones that show you things. They are the ones that put explainations in your head."
MARS REVEALER: So you do NOT mean the Mandated abbreviations who sent you here? You did not volunteer to them ? or you did? Or do you mean you volunteered to the spirits?? If so, then why would you volunteer yourself to the spirits realms??? Then again, I guess that depends what side of the Spirit realms you be volunteering for. Alas here is this table we are at again ay?
That brings us again, to what it is your really wanting to say. Your saying that these spirits you VOLUNTEERED FOR, are the same ones, that 'SELECTED' me?! Ok Hmmmmm... here it is again is where yet I still to find my answers regarding my questions about that. cont...
Ok, so, the answer is SPIRITS,... SELECTED ME,....?! :-/ I wonder who the priest is maybe standing also behind you that told you to tell me that one! ;-)
But Hmmmm... SPIRITS SELECTED.... ME?! Ok. in respect to your time & words here, who are these SPIRITS that SELECTED...ME?! SELECTED ME... for what????
Alas this table again we are sitting at. :-/ Select me for what? To do what?? TO MOVE...NO... TO ABONDON THEIR OLD WORLD, & MOVE TO ANOTHER..... TO THE EARTH??? TO ME??? Ohhh I think NOT! But no matter who or what this communication is coming from, as remember one FACET to the claim of responsibility to this code is as being from.... THE MARTIANS!!! Communication is taking place & is able to be gleaned & seen!
Such as the case may be, this Code says even something also PROFOUND! That I seem to respect. What is that your thinking. Well since we are at this table & all,... WHY NOT????
OK. One statement made well clear by them is that it is NOT THEM, THE MARTIANS ON MARS TRYING TO KEEP THEM SECRET FROM US,.. OR PREVENTING US FROM KNOWING THE TRUTH,... BUT FROM 'FORCES' HERE ON EARTH!!!!
Hows that for a titty twister??!! Now, what would or do you have to say about that interesting comment of communication from these so called....MARTIANS?! Again, being transmitted through this CODE. It is they who allude & attribute as to the responsibility in helping to create this structure I am dealing with now. I take it maybe with this 'OUR TEAM' group, or maybe your Illuminati & their super Villans in the Hall of doom! Maybe they are alluding to them (The OUR TEAM Group) as helping them to create this THING?!
Because it is certain they are definately a Facet to this Code that has much to offer. So maybe in a sense, these Martians are SPIRITS that want us all to know & understand it aint them who are keeping things secret from, us all, but you earthlings here on Earth that NOT want us to see or to know the Truth!
Yes, it definitely adds flavor to this all I know. But you are fishing for something from me thus again, the table we are at. Maybe you should just ask me what it is you want to know that you think I maybe in some way can help you in your research?? If I do know it? Well then, we are at the table.... What gets fixed 1st??!!
But yes, I do KNOW that something is able to steer things. Maybe even put explanations in my head. But that not necessarily would imply spirits with that ability. It can be a Higher Than Human intelligence as well. or even extraterrestrial Higher Than Human Intelligence that is doing that also. I mean one can also say it is JEHOVAH or the Holy Spirit as that as well, can easily be attributed & applied. Again, depending upon those spirits & what they tell you I am sure. ;-)
Nothing I seen as evidence yet to conclude one way or the other. Especially in what you say so far anyway. Maybe you will show this so we are after all, dealing in FACTS!
I am understanding of that concept & experienced stuffs where I can say honestly yes, I do believe that is true & has happened on MANY OCCASIONS. To myself that makes me agree with your statement. but as some say & want others to think or believe about me, I AM CRAZY!!! That Pony in here again! cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID....: "You want proof? There is none. You either know it and feel it or you don't. I think you referred to that as faith. In my case it was more than faith it was something I was actually shown."
MARS REVEALER: I hear ya. Proof is the experience to relate to what you said! But more than faith for you ay? SOMETHING YOU WERE SHOWN???
Now... what Might THAT BE??? Shown to you by who? What was the clincher by being shown that this brought it to be more than about faith for you? Your obviously convinced here. As I am on some things. Need more clarity of many others.
I hope you lessen the load in where this is going? So SPIRITS SELECTED ME & ARE STEERING ME, & PUT EXPLANATIONS IN MY HEAD?!
More is definitely needed from you to go on for me to say your telling me the truth.
Was it the QUEEN OF THE DAMMED you mentioned earlier about that helped this be more than faith for you? Where does she fit in with what you were shown if any connection that is applies?
Did she SELECT ME for something? if so... WHAT??
What makes these SPIRITS THINK I will go with their SELECTION choice plan?
What if they are EVIL SPIRITS?? I aint Joining their team. Know what I'm sayin... Ha ha ha! But very serious about that!!!!
You working for the Evil team of the legion of Doom is what your trying to tell me here Anonymous???
Well,... alll righty then.... I will wait for that answer as well. I hope not long?! ;-)
I wonder what you were shown though. What were you shown???
Will I be shown since I am SELECTED?? Hmmmm.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Quote MR: Anyway, you then imply that the rest of us are in HOPE of what I can do with this. That is an odd statement. WHY?????
I can only speak for myself and frankly talking about it makes me uncomfortable as that area is not my specialty."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmm. So it seems. But your here speaking for your mandates as well. What do they have to say? Whose specialty is it that can answer some issues for me regards to this?? Why am I speaking with you instead? What news do you bring again?
Because you made me uncomfortable & suspect. You I am sure understand why!! I mean this is your life, your used to shit like this.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "There are many more learned people who are experts. But thats where all this leads and is more in the spiritual realm. You keep going in that direction with your questions and the best I could do is give you a general outline that is probably full of holes and mistaken notions. But in general I'm sure its correct."
MARS REVEALER: Are there now?! Hmmmm. Then why do I have you at this table? because if your bringing me to table, I assume your worthy to be the one needed & qualified to have me at this table for the benefit of your peers I am to safely assume?! Maybe that is why I sense this all is NOT about what help you can do or give to help me get this truth then. cont...
if they sent you, & are NOT the one I would need to speak to, yet I am talking to you, that says something. I feel insulted. Why is that Anonymous?!
Now am I to take to heart your words are the truth as the facts behind my efforts, what it is I am trying to do, & I am to believe, that SPIRITS SELECTED ME to do something or be something, but you are not qualified enough to be an expert ON THIS nor tell me what it is I was or am SELECTED FOR?!
I not have enough blind faith for that. I need much more. But interesting things you say. That is the general outline I gotten from you. So it is noted. I am not trying to go the way of SPIRITUALITY! I am going the way of reality of COMMUNICATION TAKING PLACE WITH INFORMATION TO BE GLEANED & SEEN & KNOWN!! By what origin exactly or by whom in total, is yet also to be determined. Nothing stops those realities. But I guess what you say is certainly theoretically possible. But unlikely until I am as certain as you. Even if I see signs & wonders, I would not consider joining just any spirits side! Because it is the side chosen, that counts!!!
I choose the side of Jehovah! & His annointed KING!! BUT THAT is me personally speaking. So, what is it you wish to say again Anonymous??
ANONYMOUS SAID : (some freeky shit): "But the problem I have with the "spiritual realm" is it skips over many steps to an orderly process of Mars research. I only dabble in it because I was brought into the Mars reseach at that level and had to go back and start at the beginning."
MARS REVEALER: I guess if you say so. It skips over many steps to an orderly process of Mars research? Ok. Please explain?! :-/
You dabble in the spirit realms because you were brought into the MARS RESEARCH AT THAT LEVEL?? Hmmmm. That level of what??? Dabbling into the spirit realms??
Then you had to go back & start at the beginning ay? Now I can relate to that a bit, in regards to this code & my efforts in studying it. But dabbling in the spirtual realms? It is your possibility you believe, I will give you that. But I do want to know what youR STORY IS.
More is needed for me though to agree to that though. As I already noted why earlier.
ANONYMOUS SAID...; "This is how I see the orderly process:
1. Was there once an ancient civilization on Mars? I think many of us can agree that there was. This bypasses the question of if there is still remnants of that civilization still up there possibly living underground."
MARS REVEALER: Ok, that is understandable & logical, & I assume already that there is Intelligence living there now! So...
ANONYMOUS SAID to continue...: "2. What did these people look like? I have come to the conclusion they look like us. Hoagland also said he thinks that way. Stitchins and his Annunaki would also be in that camp. That eliminates any green or red aliens or the greys the UFO crowd talk about."
MARS REVEALER: Hmmmm. Kinda still seems the same issue you had with super Hoagy applies also here. What evidence of your research that you can show that your statement is also accurate??? We are spinnin in a circle ourselves here now again Anonymous!
This is the problem I see here with all this.
I need more input from you, I need to be on the same page with you. How can I unless you show me?? What do you want of me & what do you have to give to me? How can YOU help me in my efforts or to fix things?? cont...
Anonymous said... To continue again..: "3. If they look like us then is there a connection with them and us earthings? You have to think there has to be a connection which would explain all these secret societies with their supposed secret knowledge. Secretcy to me implys evil. Why else keep it secret? So in my opinion, by definition they are evil."
MARS REVEALER: I aint sure about all that Anonymous. From what I glean then the Martians in this code are then NOT evil. because they are trying to communicate & tell us it aint them doing the lying & deception regards to them there on Mars, but that prevention again, is coming here from earthlings wanting to prevent us from seeing or knowing. Hmmmm.. Keeping secrets... Evil. Kinda narrows that message clearly down doesn't it a bit?!
Is that what your trying to tell me here? Your an evil employee working for the Hall of Doom? I am serious here!
There is definately a connection in this code tween Martians & certain earthlings that are still working to prevent us & shit!
It is to be decided who is telling the truth, them or these earthlings of evil who are being in cahoots with evil spirits then?!
That tells me I really wanna see & kNow who or what is really on & IN mars to see & hear the TRUTH from them. More so than from anyone on earth that is just working to prevent us from discovering that truth the Martians are trying to tell us in this code about them & what is being done to us by Certain earthlings.
Why am I reminded of that 1952 movie THE RED PLANET MARS???
I will also add that secret societies are attributed as being on earth. It is these it seems we are being shown & told to us all, are even implicated in reasoning the origins to what this all is to begin with. It was done in an Old Masonic Lodge in Salt lake. The host set. So maybe they are telling us the Lie, that The Martians are pure evil. Because again according to the Martians take on this shit, in this code that is, it aint THEM THAT IS LYING OR DECEIVING US ALL,.. BUT FORCES HERE ON EARTH!!!!
So if the Illuminati with the super friends want us to think & attribute the Martians as being evil, to stay away from there etc... is because they fear the Martians or they are covering something up that yes, they are in secret knowledge of that they do not want us all to see & also know. Thus, they are the EVIL ones you really speak of. NOT THESE MARTIANS!!
To me it is obvious these martians want us all to see & KNOW OF THEIR EXISTANCE!! Knowing full well what the intentions of these secret powers are & this code making that known in itself, shows them (the Illuminati), that their message (The Martians) was able to make it through also! You can tell your legion of Doom that for me!!! If that is who you work for of course.
maybe someone slipped something by them as they did to super Hoagy there?? I do not know. A 3 way circus this all is just to get some fucking amazing Face Of Mars Mysterious Pictures I will say that is the truth!! :-/
Nothing you said so far, seems to be of any help in aquiring them. So they will not be thrown down upon this table then I take it?
Why are we talking again?!
But I agree there is now a connection tween them & us earthlings getting by some FORCES working to prevent us all from seeing or knowing the truth! I am convinced of that!
So, if they are evil, who did you volunteer for again??? That my being SELECTED was or is to be considered an Honor to me? By spirits no less. How should I be acting I have a reason to be honored in that? Please do tell.
it is pretty bad looking for me to have evil honor me. Or I should be honored being selected by EVIL SPIRITS?! ya hear what I am saying? Of that I am certain. If so, I feel for you. I ask again WHY DID YOU VOLUNTEER??!! cont...
ANONYMOUS said...: "4. so if I am on the right track they are evil and have an agenda for the people on earth and their minions work toward this agenda through the secret societies."
MARS REVEALER: But that is what NOT adds up! In a sense if all is how you say it is being as valid, then yes, that makes sense. However, if the Martians are telling us it aint them, but forces here on earth who hold this knowledge of them secret from us all,... Does that not contradict your theory there at all?? As being truthful or valid? Especially if your working for the EVIL??
HOW MUCH OF A THREAT AM I????
Why are we at this table??
I also put forth a possibility that The martians themselves are trying to tell us that makes me not believe your words as accurate truthful knowledge. I believe it is the knowledge of facts that your trying to tell me you want me to think or believe, but These Martians went all out in such a way as to show & tell me things, that you as of yet, have NOT SHOWN to me anything or any reason why I should discount their side of the story to yours. Or theirs of the evil side HERE ON EARTH, LYING & WORKING TO PREVNT US ALL FROM DISCOVERING THIS TRUTH?! To me I see that as truth every day, especially in regards to Mars & it's SERIOUS RESEARCH!
It can be seen also in that light, so we are where we were at, when we started talking. No wheres.
I just do not see it the way your describing because I am seeing contradictory aspects in things you say, things the Martians say, & things Hoagland said, & things the creators say. Boy that Horse is Huge in here!!
Maybe your right. I mean again, WHO AM I to super heroes or to super villans?? Who am I to these martians who want us to see & know who it is that is really keeping these secrets from us. WHY DO THEY WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT THEM???
If they are working for the secret socities, then why are they pissin on their own in stating that THEY ARE THE LIARS...NOT THEM. They are the EVIL... NOT THEM!!
Why is that stronger based?? Maybe I need to be shown something also. That would prove them the liars. But fuck, look what has been done to me, look who it is I been talking to in this code, & look at the things they helped me to see because they want me to know the TRUTH!!! To figure it out about them, about what we are told on earth about them, & what the intentions are of the Evil forces you speak of anonymous!
They see & understand it seems what has been done to me. There must be a reason for it that they want all of earth to know about this for a reason that conflicts with this evil I feel. Like that would or might help make a difference for them, as well as for us all in the future.
I don't know. But I see confliCtions already. In more ways than one. I did say I understand it is obvious, I am in a war! I aint playin!! Nor are anyone else in this code I feel.
So the true evil ones & any minions working for evil is really yet to be seen & decided. But I tend to side & agree in many senses, with the MARTIANS aspect of things.
ANONYMOUS SAID... "5. What is their agenda? This in my opinion is where you start getting into the "spiritual realm". "
MARS REVEALER: Great question. yet at the moment, What is yours is also still my question as you alluded to you also had one. That it differed from Super Hoagy's. let us stay in the physicAl realm for a bit shall we? Your implying the spiritual realms so far. The Martians from what I see in this code so far, did not & does not so far anyway attribute to being spiritual per say!! That would outright make me indicate that attribute unto themselves. I am not yet convinced of that. of course I can be wrong & am open to that being a possibility in what you suggest. Need more input.... cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "If there is anything to your code then this is where it would come in."
MARS REVEALER: maybe, but so can telepathic capabilites in regards to some of this. By living beings rather than spiritual beings. Nothing again as of yet to show either way. But I would be lying if I did not tell you that may be a possibility! because of of what would have to be SPIRITUAL, because it seems I was to think or accept that it was My MOTHER coming through someone talking to me wanting me to know somethings. telling me I had a message to tell. Mars is My planet I was told, Richard Hoagland was not my friend. That he is very sick & will need an operation. His heart was indicated by this person being used as a mouthpiece. By him pointing to his chest where the heart is.
I am summing this up & will NOT tell this story whole here. But other things also was spoken to me about regarding my wife, regarding My Brothers & My uncle, & also regarding my inheritance which was being told to me I had money coming. That I was getting screwed by them & NOT by my mother. I was told again I had a message to tell, & then said again was that Mars is My planet, & again, I have a mesage to tell.
I had told this to That DICK Hoagland the night this occurred. He played it off telling me it was INTELLIGENCE that it was not my mother. I did NOT even know the guy who told me this. So many things he was right on about & helped me see & understand a few other things also...NOT just regarding me & my Mars research.
He still wanted me to think or believe it was intelligence. I wanted to tell him because I had no one else to tell at that time, besides my family.Passing the message on as it were amongst them! Grrrrr.
But also because of what was said about Hoagland needing an Operation, so I wanted to warn him to go get checked JUST INCASE!
He blew it off but understood I was very serious. I did NOT tell him about the part where I was told he was NOT my friend. This is before & in process of things going bad between me & him.
My mother died November 11th, 2005. It was the following year in 2006, when this spiritual experience encountered me & vicea versa.
So maybe Anonymous, you may be onto something. But as yet I am still not fully understanding what that was that happened to me through that guy. I guess he was like that dude John Edwards in a way?? I actually thought I was on candid camera at 1st. But very quickly details grabbed my attention from this guy & what was being told to me, I knew this was no candid camera moment. I am convinced something or someone speaking through him, to me, wants me to think & believe it was my mother. But so accurate & so clear, it had to be her! Having also a certain personality trait that she had when she talked that I recognized that even through this guy.
Hoagland wanted me to believe it was Intelligence following me around. I knew that could not be right I think he not took seriously my expperience anyway playing it down.
My mom (if it was really my mom) seemed to think enough importance was necessary to mention about him 1st, before the other things. That made me curious, & she wanted me to know that he was not my friend! That I have a message to tell! cont...
Only later did things pan out that way for sure ay?! Is that a coincidence??? I do not think so. Tell the truth I do not know what to say it was, But something went on that someone was trying to give me information. Just like this code.
I just thought I would mention this, as to clarify I am not totally closed minded about what your saying. Even with this weird shit, I still not have enough to go on at the moment to be certain as you appear of yourself in what your telling me. or trying to.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "If there is anything to your code then this is where it would come in. Thats why I am interested in seeing if there is anything to it."
MARS REVEALER: Maybe.It seems others are able to watch that video alone, & it would NOT COME IN. The broadcast, as it were, to those watching, see & hear NOTHING, accept what is seen or heard on the surface. Even that being as it may & is, many still miss much of that shit! For instance these Faces most & many miss, till I pointed them out of course. They not see or hear also the things on that surface. They are merely entertained in my opinion, or for some reason or another, they watch, but just not pay any real attention.
Now to me this aint a fault of the people watching in general. IE the Public! To me, for any so called SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHERS, they should have picked up on MORE THAN JUST THESE IMAGES!! because on the surface seen & heard, are things that should make these so called SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHERS wanna look into this all more closely & even ask or DEMAND THE TRUTH FROM THAT 'DICK' HOAGLAND!
But maybe your right, in some ways with that theory of yours. It still is NOT Fact! But I agree & am convinced & admit to all, that there is somebody, something, of high intelligence speaking through this CODE, wanting us to see it's messages. But they made it as a Bizzarre Puzzle, to be studied, & it's riddles looked at & solved, to make connections so that the lingo gets somewhat clearer & we can use our minds to paint the picture of all these PIECES to the puzzle we can see or fit together, as the picture shows more detail of what it is that is trying to be painted, that is trying to be shown & told to us. (I fucking HATE PUZZLES! So go figure how I would wind up with this THING to dea with.)
So take it from me, since your here speaking to me on this now, there is DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO THIS!! I wish I can tell you there was not. Believe me there also. But good or evil??? Not enough to go on yet. because there appears to be more than one side in this doing the talking! We have 2 or even possibly 3 different attributes of different entities or identities rather. or both. ;-) Each having something to say or to be seen from their paths from their facets of their pieces mixed in this Bizzarre Puzzle! That is my opinion, it seems the only one that counts right now, because I am the one that sees something & has already shown some incredible things from it & because of it!
Ya see, if I were really Crazy... (BU),... I would NOT be able to see or do anything at all, yet show connections using the scripts, the visuals, or outside references or outside connections. NOTHING!! That is what there would be if this all was NOTHING TO IT AT ALL!! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!! NOTHING TO LEARN!! NOTHING.... BEING TOLD!!
NO ONE CAN PROVE OTHERWISE!! The only thing they can do, is the things you already described at what has been done to me that from what you see of me & super Hoagy there, that your theoretical possibilities were noted. cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Like I said earlier I think I have a general ideal of what that agenda is but the details escape me and that code is the only ball game in town that could possibly fill in some of the pieces."
MARS REVEALER: You shared some general idea about what you think their agenda is. You have a general idea of mine. I am in pursuit of TRUTH. I am in pursuit of these Faces of Mars images. I am in pursuit of any & all whom done me & mine harm because of these!
The details ESCAPE you ay? Hmmmm. Can it be because you tried to TRAP them? ;-) It seems someone is trying to do so. What happens when you trap an ANIMAL? Especially one not sure of?!
You say THAT CODE IS THE ONLY BALL GAME IN TOWN ay? Hmmmm.
Well, that would appear RIGHT ON in the information in this code! They described this occurace by means of using sports, because this code attributed this code as beling like a game. With me as a player on the field. As a player who is trying to catch the ball.
That this code attributed an identity being called as an illegal player on the field, who is illegally preventing the ball to be caught by the player trying to catch the ball.
How do I know this?? Because the code attributes itself as to what seems to be occuring, then as now, that this was being done by this illegal player on the field. So the code describes what is happening now in this.
The code describes also something that maybe is happening. As it were, it sent out a team of LEGAL defensive tacklers, to get the illegal player outta the way. It seems the illegal player was attributed to the identity described & connected to that DICK HOAGLAND.
They described this occurace by adding that this illegal player was acting as if he was keeping a player in check, by preventing that player from getting the puck.
The code also attributed this situation as to a broadcast reception. Attributing that there was interference, of a signal, or broadcast that was being sent from one destination, to another. From MARS, TO EARTH, being blocked from being TUNED IN!
Guess the identity attributed to that blockage?? The one always telling us to STAY TUNED! Go figure again. I am sure some would say that is a coincidence, again. Because some have said that. :-/
But I am glad to see someone else, sees that game going on, because THEY ARE LATE & IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN!!
yES, TO FILL IN THE PIECES OF THIS BIZZARE PUZZLE!
But I wonder, if what YOU have, can help with what I have??? Is this why we are at this table?? Again, I hope this leads someplace, as I am spending much time communicating with you about this, in the hope I aint wasting my time. By addressing you. You gotten my attention, so that worked. Where it goes after this reply, I guess will be up to you.
If something I am doing that can help you, you already know I need help. That is how that will work. Now THAT would be FAIR. cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "I just read this at a site I think is 50 percent BS but wondered how they managed to get this right.
"Not being told to the American people about this Great Game, currently being played out upon our Earth, is that their leaders, including Obama, are part of a centuries old “cabal” intent upon igniting what they believe will be our Planet’s “Final Battle” which, according to their beliefs, will see the return to our Planet of the “ancient gods""
MARS REVEALER: Ok. I heard of things similar, but as I said, it aint my field of research. MARS IS MINE! Now no offence again, but what does this have to do with Ufo Diaries, The CODE OF CYDONIA, these Faces of Mars images & That DICK Hoagland working to prevent us from dis-covering the TRUTH?
I hear what your saying, I just do not attribute that information, to my investigation to get us the TRUTH about these Faces of Mars images, & what the code has to say.
But I would not be surprised if your theory is true, that that is actually happening IN GENERAL.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "so this nice guy offers his two daughters up to this mob to "do as they please to them". does that sound like a holy man?
Does something strike you as being wrong here?..."
MARS REVEALER: Yes. I was told that someone seen these exact words someplace spoken before. That does bother me a little. :-/
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "So my theory is that god imprisoned the Nephilim on mars. Probably there are mummies underground and the minions of the secret societies want to get their DNA and bring it back to earth to produce physical bodies the Sons of Gods can take over to kill humans."
MARS REVEALER: Good theory. Again, that is what that is. Certainly in realms of possibilities I agree. But what if that theory is wrong??? Whose word & PROOF IS CREDIBLE to show that theory is correct to have all humanity find out about this, & think like that without that proof?? because as I see it, it can be a set up for humanity, playing their fears unto them, to make us say without a fight, we must stay away from Mars!
Therefore without humanities desire to go there & find & study mummy's or the ARTSCAPES of Mars, let alone what is under that surface, it would be a free for all for those in the know, who are there & getting to go, & seeing & playing with everything, without the rest of us pesky primative humans being around while they do what they do, goes unhindered. SECRECY STILL A MAJOR ROLE TO PLAY!
I left out much of the stuff you said before because here & now I feel is not the time or subject, until & if our conversation morphs that way. I am very interested & into those subjects where these branch off into. But now, we need to be on the same page still.
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "From what I understand it works like this. On judgement day, all will be judged. Fallen angels, Humans and all other beings. Those immortal beings that are judged to be unworthy will lose their immortality. They will be replaced by humans that are judged to be worthy."
MARS REVEALER: That is interesting, because I can attribute it all to what is going on now. I shall explain.
From what I understand, IT WORKS LIKE THIS, Those Immortal Beings, 'GODS" (like that DICK Hoagland) that are judged to be unworthy, 'will be replaced' by someone judged to be worthy!! Who that is or would be? You tell me! cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "...for some reason the Creator decided to 'hold court' on this hell hole of a planet.
"So the fallen Angels figure that it is in their best interest to corrupt as many humans as possible. Make it so there are no humans that can replace them. I don't thonk that will matter but I think thats what they think."
MARS REVEALER: I can still attribute that to what is going on now, in the FACET just gleaned. Why? How? Let me tell ya. The fallen angel in this case, Super Goagy, the self delusion of Godhood, knows he is to be replaced. Therefore, it is in HIS BEST INTEREST to corrupt as many people as possible, some by giving the 'REACH AROUND', in order to keep them all in the dark of the truth, & what this is really about, so he thinks he can prevent his replacement, preventing himself of being DIS-COVERED & UN-COVERED.
In essence, to me it sounds as if he does NOT want to lose his position, & NOT WISHES TO.... RETIRE! But I agree with YOU, I do not think he can do nothing about it neither! But as you said, that is what he thinks!
But there was an illegal player on the field, obviously trying to prevent this ball game from starting, let alone having anyone want to attend!
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Never the less they are doing a very good job at corrupting humans. I seriously doubt that there are many humans worthy of becoming immortal creatures at this time."
MARS REVEALER: Again, I can attribute it here. Hoagland is doing a very good job at corrupting humans to keep them blinded by the truth. I also doubt, that there are many at all, worthy to replace that DICK Hoagland & become an Immortal creature. As he thinks that he still is!!!
I know this aint what your saying Anonymous, it is WHAT I AM SAYING!!!!
However, I do not count myself as worthy, if anyone is thinking that?! I do not think I am a super hero, nor a GOD. :-/
ANONYMOUS SAID...: "Sorry if I bored you with this but you kept wanting me to go into it."
MARS REVEALER: Again, yes I did & still want you to. As long as we are on the same page. We are at this table.... are we not? If not, what is the point in all this?
Please address my questions.... I am far from bored.
110 comments:
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Where are the Cities ?
You and Hoagie say there are Tubes (there aren't) and that they connect Cities (there are NONE.)
It's over, you lost, get over it.
Hoagie is talking about Mars, and he's ignoring your contribution ...
BECAUSE YOU ARE CRAZY !
Hoagie is worse, though, he KNOWS HE IS LYING !!
Hoagie is a lying liar who lies !!
MR why do you waste all your time with Hoagland? No matter what is said the cydonia Face and those other faces will never prove a thing. At best its a toss up if those things are artificial. The worse thing about them is they do not prove who the hell was up there. The cydonia face could be a human face or an alien face and thats only if its actually made by anyone. All this aquabbling does is take the focus off the real questions.
The truth is that no one went to Mrs and made the Cydonia face and then left without building many other things up there. Despite the tampering of the images some of those things got by NASA's censors and thats what needs to be found.
I listened to Hoagland the other night on C2C and the most important thing he said in 3 hours flew over everyones heads. He finally came out and said that the people that were once on Mars were Humans and thats the secret NASA is trying to keep from us. He said that humans are an ancient space traveling race. I agree 100 percent with that statement and came to it doing my own research.
I know that most of the people hope it was some liitle green ET's especially the UFO crowd but that just not the case. The question that should have been asked of Hoagland is how did he come to that conclusion? How does he know they were humans related to us earthlings on Mars at one time? There is no way he could have come to that conclusion from just the cydonia face.
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Hi Anonymous. I will reply to your reply as soon as I can. In a day or 2. Then I can address your concerns.
MR
I appreciate your crazy comments.
Now, don't disappoint me with some sane safe sheeut !
Harness the Inner Crazy we knowse you have !!
So Let It Be Written.
Thanks MR.
Let me go into more detail about where I am coming from on this. I am getting old and would like to know who was up on Mars in the past before things went bad. I look at Hoagland and what I see was a 20 year old that came out of nowhere to become the head of some science Museum. Next thing you know he is sitting beside Walter Cronkite on national TV as some space advisor. Now was that just some lucky break or some young guy being in the right place at the right time? I don't think so. Things like that just don't happen from pure luck. Some powerful people were backing him. So whatever the deal with him is its set in stone what his agenda is. He already knows what he can reveal and on what time frame. But his agenda is not my agenda and if he isn't going to reveal anything anytime soon then I am not going to sit around hoping he does.
Maybe that is his agenda, to get people to waste their time with petty squabbles and mis-directing their focus away from the real important things. I don't know and don't really care. The bottom line is if he is a "gatekeeper then no matter what you or I say its not going to matter in what he does.
Now the Cydonia Face has been around for what? 20 years? And thats where Hoagland got his credibility with the Mars crowd but its never going to be the last word on the subject. At best its a 50/50 toss up as to it being artificial or not. Even the face itself could be alien or human. Again a tossup. There needs to be more evidence found or brought forward. I admit it was Hoagland pushing the Cydonia Face that got me interested in all this but he seems to have dropped the ball. He got a bunch of people to look at Mars and the possibility that the Cydonia Face could be artificial then left everyone high and dry up there while he went to the moon and back to earth trying to prove the NAZIs run NASA. I'm still on Mars wondering where he ran off too?
But lets say my suspicions about him are all wrong. Then the only other explaination is he is getting old also and took some heat from the mainstream science establishment for his views about mars. So now he is concerned about his legacy when he is gone. That might explain why he wanted to write a book about the NAZIs running NASA to get more credibility in those circles. Now instead of taking on the controversial stuff he dances around them and tailors his arguments to the academic community. Whatever the reasons MR don't get stuck in the mud like that. Move forward...Cydonia was yesterdays news.
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BU... SO SHALL IT BE DONE!!!
Hello Anonymous.
I will address with comments to your questions etc as I read.
(lengthy reply... please tolerate)
1st, you said:
"MR why do you waste all your time with Hoagland? No matter what is said the cydonia Face and those other faces will never prove a thing."
MARS REVEALER:
Waste my time??? Is that what I am doing? To me, I am fighting a WAR with him. It is a complex answer that needs to be given for such a simple question. Hoagland is the crux of why much of my time stays focused upon that "BUTTRESS"!
Mainly for what he did to me & my family as well as The Martian Revelation Show. ALL because of a video he was in, that shows some OTHER FACES OF MARS IMAGERY the public has never seen before the video was made! Plus it was 13 years after the video was made, that they still all went UN-NOTICED, until I revealed the video & these Faces. 1st at his pay to read & post conference center forum. Where I was an Honorary member of Enterprise Mission.
Until that is, after my insistance on continuing my investigation into the video, these images, & of what demanded me to investigate HOAGLAND HIMSELF!!! Mainly because of his own actions & words to me, in what was NOT in the best interest of science, nor in the best interest of the investigation, nor in the best interest of the Enterprise Mission People themselves, for me to simply 'DROP THIS GARY.... DO SOMETHING ELSE'!!!!!!
You see anonymous, This is & was No ordinary video documentary! It is a coded masterpiece upon which I am able to see some of it & able to learn things from it of information. INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION being given to us all!
Part of that information is that it alludes itself to an underlying structure, underneath the surface. The surface is the cover, or the cover story. Which is the video you all see when you watch it. However, the underneath story tells a different story. One that indicates itself to be a design of intelligence. In more ways than one!
This intelligence calls itself in code as being 'OUR OWN'... or
'OUR TEAM'. pLACING THEMSELVES in a position of the 4th world!
Yes, calling themselves MARTIANS is one aspect of seeing & understanding this. However , it can also be an attribute for the 4th dimension! Where this Intelligence originates, or is positioned.
Now, this code states that this was created by an UNKNOWN RACE, OF INTELLIGENT BEINGS! Hmmmm. Some ways I see this. One is that I think the starting Gun has fired & I am RUNNING, since anyway he (Hoagland) advised EVERYONE at Enterprise conference that SOMEONE ELSE, HAD TO DO THE SERIOUS LEGWORK!!!! Hmmmm.
Now another way I see this statement, is that these 4th worlders are an unknown Race, of Intelligent Beings. To us it seems anyway. :-/
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Another way I see this statement is that there is a Race of Unknown Intelligent Beings going on!! I mean Unknown Intelligent Beings here on earth! OF INTELLIGENCE!! WHO ARE anUNKNOWN Race! They are in a Race that is unknown to us?! Or, the type of Intelligence that they are here on earth, is a Race, or in other words, a Branch type of Government Intelligence Unkown to us??
Now, this is where it gets interesting more. Why?
Because these same 'OUR OWN' Unknown Intelligent Beings, in this code, have also FINGER POINTED Hoagland as Being... 'A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM'!! He is a Member of 'OUR OWN'!! APART of The UNKNOWN RACE OF INTELLIGENT BEINGS speaking to us from the 4th World. Or the 4th Dimension. Speaking to us all from INSIDE This multi-faceted code, called CYDONIA!
This will help to understand where my investigation has led me AFTER what went down tween me & Super Hoagy there, publicly & privately, to understand then what happened, way back when when my time was wasted in pursuing answers from him, that he avoided & wanted to steer all away from this video & it's Faces, as well as any connections that he HAD to the video, these images, as well as that to those behind the program!
I do not see pursuing the truth as a waste of time Anonymous.
Especially when the investigation is solid enough to show just cause of it's validity to support especially what the code is saying, in comparisons to that which Super Hoagy said & done. Especially after the producers own words & comments on the matter & regards to Hoagland as being much more involved & also connected to these images than he (Hoagland) was wanting to let on to anyone!! Especially at his own Enterprise Conference center!!!
Look the short end of it is that he set me up! Treated me as an Operative would & did much to thwart my efforts. Using threats even to me & my family, as well as to my future in Mars research, as well as especially... MY RADIO SHOW THE MARTIAN REVELATION!!!
The hot end of the stick of the truth of the matter is that I uncovered a conspiracy that involves him, these images, Secret Intelligence, & show that his SO CALLED SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH IS ALSO JUST A COVER STORY!!! Lying to us all, with many following him as if he is of the light, yet he is of the Darkness! Many are fooled. I was once!
To me I am not wasting my time. He underestimated me in my seriousness to my Mars research & thought me easy to cull away, by portraying me as someone who is crazy, not worth listening to. Because he does not want anyone to see apparently, what his OWN TEAM laid in wait for many years to now unfold about UFO DIARIES, & THE BUTTRESS WITHIN who is not what he really appears to be on the surface! (NOT ME!!!)
This threatened him, because it can UN-MAN HIM! To dis-cover him, as the OPERATIVE HE REALLY IS! It blows his cover so to speak!
He has these images & he himself told me more than a couple times in the past he has secret images no one has seen before, & even Robin has made excuses a couple months back for him saying he had files a few years back that were stolen from him. She said this because I called & DEMANDED THESE IMAGES FROM HIM AS THEY ARE MINE TO PRESENT!! I was getting tired of him ignoring the issues & my questions & what has been alleged against him by the creators themselves of UFO DIARIES!! I told them (Robin & Super Hoagy) that if he did not give them to me, I would then escalate this fight. With MYSTERIOUS PICTURES.
She was making excuses for him. What a joke!!
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The facts are that I have much reasoning I can nearly write a book with as to why my time is spent so much on that BUTTRESS.
However, I do have more reasons of the scientific side to this issue of CODES.
You see people, he is playin a script, in all he says & does. As an operative he is singing thier song. Speaking thier lingo as it were. Now, when someone is taught by a vigorous process of learning to see & understand this code, this lingo, it becomes easier to spot this out. NOT only in videos, but in audios, from articles, from conferences etc. Plus, TIME IS NO ISSUE! It seems. because embedded & if anyone really listens to super Hoagy in those things, one will always see & hear him say things that which he hints & alludes to something more being said behind the scenes. Something more to look at in what he is saying or trying to say, hinting & teasing us all to look closely to & look closely for. Of which he even always says, if we can figure it out, it will change all our lives. Well, it has changed mine, plus it has me still seeking & still trying to figure this out.
I am working on currently & already have put forth examples of this scenario. That will show & prove itself to be more than just myself at work, & also will show itself to be beyond my intelligence to really create this all & make all these connections.
Hoagland needs to be read more deeply & more concentrated upon in his works.
To see the hidden codes & the pieces to a much bigger picture & structure of intelligence he is trying to present to us all.
That I am convinced of! Take heed!!!
Anonymous said...:
"No matter what is said the cydonia Face and those other faces will never prove a thing. At best its a toss up if those things are artificial."
MARS REVEALER:
It will prove that the mere Face at Cydonia aint alone! Plus as Chuck Sellier stated to me on MR show, 'THINK ABOUT THIS, SCIENTISTS USUALLY REQUIRE 3 SOURCES!!!'
Notice 3 Faces of Mars images... different Faces... looking Like Faces. Yes, proves that there are Facial profilic structures on the surface of Mars, that is being hidden from us all. Espeically those very images, from Hoagland himself no less, as he was the one who PROVIDED THEM!!!!!! yeah, aint that a kick in da woop dee doo!
Also as I also thought & believed, that Chuck Sellier also said he sees these faces appear to be Pyramids as well! That makes things more interesting, especially when it fits my theory of the Face at Cydonia to begin with. Amongst other clarification of my theories of Mars this code vindicates me for. ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"The worse thing about them is they do not prove who the hell was up there. The cydonia face could be a human face or an alien face and thats only if its actually made by anyone. All this aquabbling does is take the focus off the real questions."
MARS REVEALER:
I agree there. These Faces do not prove WHO was up there, but it surely proves... AN INTELLIGENCE WAS UP THERE... & I BELIEVE STILL IS UP THERE NOW!!! But that is my opinion. ;-) remember, on one face or FACET of this code jewel, it is the Martians who are giving us info in this code. :-) The 4th worlders. What a means of disclosure. Communication!!!
Those Faces also are definitely made by a living intelligent being/s. They are not mere & are not natural. Remember, scientists usually require 3 sources! ;-)
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This quabbling you are saying, in my opinion, no offence, is as what others also do & done. Trying to steer all away from the important questions. Mainly about Super Hoagy & his not wishing to address these questions with any truth & avoids direct confrontation about these questions needed to be addressed & answered & even REBUTTED by him!!!
I told him one that he is NOT the investigator into this, BUT THE INVESTIGATED!!! He not liked that much.
A few of my questions I would ask & wish people with NUTS will ask is:
1: When will he give us answers about these images & Ufo Diaries from which these images came from???
2: when will he finally follow up on the information he wanted me to find for him to investigate these images & also the people behind the program, so he can get us all the important information, that I am sure he has had a chance to find by now, after nearly 3 years, since he encouraged & said he would do this???
3: How long was he an Operative for 'OUR TEAM'??
4: hOW LONG DID HE WORK FOR Chuck Sellier & his CREW???
5: wHY DID HE LIE ABOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE of this Video, as well as of it's pictures, as well as his knowledge of the producers behind the program?
6: Why did he not want to be filmed in connection to the Faces Of Mars images, or play his roles to say his script in the scenes that he left BIG HOLES IN???
7: Why did he encourage me to investigate into this video & it's Face of Mars mysterious pictures??? Only to hide & deny, & want me to slide this under a rug, after I started doing so???
8: Why did he try to make bribes to me, & set me & my family up to fail & fall? Why did he try to have me committed & tried to split my family up???
9: Why did he start a smear campaign against me to destroy my research & my work???
10: Why did he ban me from his Enterprise Conference center??
11: Why did he want to appear on the record as fast as possible, & then not want to appear on the Martian Revelation show to speak about these Faces images & about those behind the program? Why did he NOT want to appear on the program with those who have made such strong allegations about knowing him, & telling us of his connection to these images??
12: Why is he ignoring OTHER FACES OF MARS which would only strengthen & support his Face of Mars research? To especially ignore them from a video that he himself was in????? What is wrong with this picture???
So anonymous, these are but a few of the many more & even better questions I have. But that was a few to show enough of the real questions that need to be asked.
I have another for ALL ELSE!!! WHY ARE ALL the 'so called serious Mars Researchers' BEING SUCH BIG PUSSIES & BEING AFRAID TO ASK OR EVEN PRESSURE HOAGLAND TO ANSWER REGARDS TO THIS VIDEO, AS WELL AS TO THESE IMAGES???? As well as pointing out his LIES about his comments to 'EVERYONE' regarding this all?
Many would rather it seems, be reach arounded & stroked by him just to have his attention & are cool with not wanting to get any answers from him about this. YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!
Grow some nuts, or get out of the Mars research fields, especially where anomalies are concerned!! You PROVE YOURSELVES UNWORTHY OF MY RESPECT & I SPIT AT YOU ALL!!! My WAR against him INCLUDES YOU!!! aGAIN... YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!
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Instead of the biggest dis-covery of the century, let alone last century, it is indeed the biggest cover up of both centuries!!!
Hoagland is the conspiracy CENTER in this case!!
That is what he is trying to keep under cover THE TRUTH FROM BEING SEEN!!!!!
It seems so called SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHERS ARE NOT SO SERIOUS AT ALL, BUT ARE JUST WANNA BEE'Z!! POZERS!!! for to me Anonymous, THEY ARE WASTING THEIR TIME!! Or, they wish to be apart of the LIE just so they can be looking as if they are something or someone special!! They let go of their principles & their quest for the truth to accept & play along with a LIE! As well as to play with a LIAR!!!
They became & become fake, by ignoring what demands investigation, they choose sides rather than go with those that seek TRUTH!
Many really wish to see Hoagland's true nature ay?? Well, in PRIVATE E-MAILS, is where I can show his TRUE NATURE! he does NOT seriously care for the SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH, but is more concerned with his impressions of being a man with much money. As his own words state, that he is concerned about how people think of him, is based solely, upon his financial status, & NOT upon the seriousness or the quality of his SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH!
Make no mistake Anonymous, My Time is being used well as best as I can utilize it for, & that goal is to GET ANSWERS, TO PRESS HIM, TO MAKE HIM KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE NO ESCAPE FROM ME, OR FROM HIS OWN 'OUR TEAM'!! Remember, it is they that had him play his role. But they seen into the future. They are here to say we know you, we know what you did, & provide photographic evidence, by way of coded mysterious pictures, & then some! There is other eviences out there that kind of connect & correlate to Hoagland being apart of a secret group upon which he was fitted.
Some group called SWORD! Where NASA was the orginization that sent him one day, unannounced into their lair & had a breifing after wetting his breifs? Remember what Sellier said to me on MR Show???
'We Got them (faces of mars pics) From NASA & Hoagland. THERE YOU ARE!!! (drum symbols) ONE OF HIMS GONNA SAY YEAH,... THOSE ARE OURS'!!!
Anonymous?? Whose would they be?? OUR TEAM'S!! OUR OWN! That Hoagland is implied as being 'A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM!!
tHE POINT IS THAT IS WHAT THE code OF uFO dIARIES cYDONIA, SPELLS OUT. Now, How can this connect to the SWORD story of Hoagland?? Because NASA sent him to them way back when. So that is how he was scripted in code to be told to us. AS NASA, & The Buttress Richard Hoagand A Member Of Our Team Of Intelligence!
I can say more about my potential connections tween SWORD & Super Hoagy there, but I will not go on now about this.
This is about WASTING TIME! But those of you all who think I am the one wasting it, well, youz already know what I think & feel of youz!
I am declaring that TIME IS UP for the Buttress. He is RETIRED NOW & is thinking he still has all the power!
yet he is now un-shielded, & there are NO DEFENSES FOR HIM upon my ease or what will become more easily for me in using the very thing that empowered him to begin with to win my WAR with him & get some pay back!
he could have & still could fix this. I DEMAND THESE IMAGES FROM HIM PUBLICLY & CHALLENGE HIS SUPREMACY TO LEAD THE ENTERPRIZE MISSION PEOPLE!
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I been callin him out.
Now why don't any of YOU?????
I will stand strong with you! You do NOT have to believe in all the crazy shit I see or am investigating. But if you see anything that makes sense in what I say & show to show that Super Hoagy there, is HIDING THINGS FROM US ALL ABOUT THIS,... I am your ally!!!
I really cannot be the only person out there who sees something wrong here, or who wishes to see him answer, &/or MAKE HIM ANSWER regarding these Faces images & this video & his place in connections to all of it!!! How can this be if so???
What was done to me by my peers in support of that DICK Hoagland, is also reasons enough for me to spend as much time as possible to figure this all out, & also to pay him back!
Again Anonymous, focusing upon me instead of upon HIM as someone who is wasting time, is not trying to solve anything. If anything, your tryin to play upon my feelings to cut my efforts & run & still leave that DICK Hoagland untouched for what he has done to me & my family!! While he continues his charade of bullshit.
BUT Bullshit all may not be if I am correct, that Coast To Coast show you mentioned about him recently doing (I yet to hear) I am sure I can say with ease he is hinting still, alluding to things beneath the veneer of STUFF that is inside to be discovered, as a jewel! or a dome! The COVER OF THE SURFACE HIDING THE SECRET TREASURE OF INTELLIGENCE WITHIN!!
Break through the dome, & he & THEY... BECOME UNSHIELDED!!! Then one can see & maybe put some puzzle pieces together, as they are ALL APART OF THE CODE OF CYDONIA!!!
Wanna bet me??
Wait till I do hear it & make some Mysterious Pictures that connect & all attribute to each other.
By the geometry, of the baseline, (the script & it's embedded intelligence) Based all upon Brookings model as thier mold to make this code to present us or with hold from us all the TRUTH! That some want & some others NOT WANT us all to see or know. About them, about what they really found, about everything!!!
So... to me an Unknown Race is already being Run! How far ahead are any of you to my position in this Unknown Race, of INTELLIGENT BEINGS!!!???
IN MY OPINION... All of us are being fingerpointed at to be tested, by using your intelligences to dig through that veneer Hoagland always speaks about & alludes to.
Yet I am the scum bag ay? We will see. Yet where is super Hoagy in regards to his findings upon any of the infoz he wanted me to get him, to get us these images & their important information about them, from THOSE BEHIND THE PROGRAM????
Yes... many are wasting their time!
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JOIN ME!!!!!!! JOIN THIS FIGHT!!! Thus Join the plight as you also will see how he will handle YOU who stand up & be counted!! He simply answers saying THIS IS NONSENSE... ALL LIES! NOTHING TO SEE HERE.... HE (Mars Revealer) IS CRAZY!
So... I ask, who really is the crazy one to think that this will simply go away & make life easy for that Buttress who wanted to destroy mine????
That is a really great question!!!
What say you?
I also am wondering what research you allude to Anonymous that you do. I would be interested to see about it sometime if & when you ever wish to show it.
Glad to see & meet another researcher who has balls to think for himself or herself, & who aint afraid to speak up!...??? Ay... 'Anonymous'????
I most certainly will continue pursuing him. I apolagize if you feel this is directed at you Anonymous. Please forgive & try to understand. It has been nearly 3 years since this investigation began, & the things he said & actions taken against me & my family by him. I am in a FIGHT, one he will sooner or later, be forced to FEEL THE SPANKING! I would really love if this was not the cases. But what is one who is lower than low to do with a snob nosed BUTTRESS who manipulates & destroys peoples lives because he wants all to see & think he is RICH & the greatest person on Earth??!! I WANT PAYBACK!!!!)
MARS REVEALER
CYDO_NAUT_KNIGHT
Anonymous. Thanks for replying. I have to reply back in day or so again.
I hope you took no offence, & understand.
My reply to yours, will be far less lengthy. :-)
You say some interesting things.
Thanks for patience.
MR
CHALLENGE HIS SUPREMACY TO LEAD THE ENTERPRIZE MISSION PEOPLE!
I also challenge MR and RCH for Ship's Captaincy !
I was thrown out of dere also !
HE (Mars Revealer) IS CRAZY!
I'm Crazy too !
Hello Anonymous.
Thanks for replying clarifying more detail. I hope you were able to understand & tolerate my last reply. I needed to vent to those that would feel it's heat to get a message that I aint gonna stop.
So, now to focus on you Anonymous.
Anonymous said:
"Let me go into more detail about where I am coming from on this.'
MARS REVEALER:
That sounds great, as details is great & much needed, especially in regards to this shit. I appreciate your taking time to do so. Please continue to do so.
Anonymous said:
"I am getting old and would like to know who was up on Mars in the past before things went bad."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmm. Why do I feel much meaning in your words. Sounds like you been really patient for a while? I however would like to know who was up on Mars also in the past before things went bad. With Mars as the UFO DIARIES Cydonia episode. Things went bad back then as far as I can tell from Lee Shackleford & Mr Sellier. Plus someone who was up there in the past, Super Hoagy there, does not want to remember that past or his tie to those pics & to THOSE BEHIND THE PROGRAM. I wonder what exactly went bad or why it went bad. Those needed details again. :-/
But on a serious note, to your statement, I agree! Who was up there? Someone of some type of Intellectectual understanding beings were. Human or otherwise. That is fascinating really! Plus what happened there. I mean really, not thinking of how Mars as WE NOW KNOW IT TO BE as any reasonings behind it. That is a cover up! The MARS THEY NOW KNOW, I'd like to see & understand from their perspectives, as they see what is REALLY there. Or to try to determine if anything, happened there at all that spells the demise of a species of another world, let alone the surface of that world which has been sculpted in such advanced ways showing some amazing things. Which obviously is being, & has been covered up from us all. I hope I am making sense here.
What made it so bad that we cannot know & see also? To be covered up? How is science supposed to work in FACE of the reality that exists if we are told & taught to FACE a reality based upon a LIE or many lies?
cont...
Anonymous said:
"I look at Hoagland and what I see was a 20 year old that came out of nowhere to become the head of some science Museum. Next thing you know he is sitting beside Walter Cronkite on national TV as some space advisor. Now was that just some lucky break or some young guy being in the right place at the right time? I don't think so. Things like that just don't happen from pure luck."
MARS REVEALER:
Oh how I agree. To me it is obvious. But again, that Past thing confronts us that prevents us all from knowing. Or is this process apart of this investigation helping to change all that? because here we are discussing this here now because of My investigation which was already something to be found & looked at long before I came along to investigate! That is as obvious to me as it is not being LUCK on Super Hoagy's part there to wind up where he did way back when. Just as it aint LUCK I am here now also in this investigation. There are no coincidences.
But who am I to judge him & his past? It was as secret as the MARS THEY NOW KNOW! Yet look at it all unfolding. Trying to anyway. :-) I know I am curious as would be & there are many others that would LOVE to see & hear that story! Because it is HISTORY!Based upon a reality we are & were not taught. So I agree with you Anonymous.
Anonymous said:
"Some powerful people were backing him. So whatever the deal with him is its set in stone what his agenda is. He already knows what he can reveal and on what time frame."
MARS REVEALER:
Yes, It would have to be powerful people backing him. At least he had backing! He was doing his job & following that job order, & all it details to this day?? Or has something changed in that Job order which now, in his future, this investigation & us talking about it, is showing glimpses of possibilities here, that may show it may not have been as set in stone as once thought? Or was this apart of the plan etched in stone to occur? But he not likes it or wants it to be any longer that plan?? Many possibilities this makes me wonder about. Cause I don't know squat! He can answer this. But we know how that all worked out now don't we??
It may seem he knows what he can reveal or not obviously as his job order applies. The time frame & what exactly he has to reveal is his problems. Though I hear what your saying Anonymous. All I know is what he did to me & mine as doing his job order!!! Or was that outside of his job orders? Because someone wanted me to see this code thing & wanted me to seek these answers. No coincidence or luck there I am certain also. But what does that really say about what has happened & what is still happening to me, because of my investigation?? Which again, I still feel someone wanted me or someone at least, to investigate into this.
cont...
The deal may have been set in stone, in more ways than one for him what his agenda is, but me??? I am a whole nutha thing! I have my own agenda. One is to pay him back for what he has done to us...My family, (& ALL OF US)!!! You see Anonymous, I can to a degree understand him having to do his job. I loved him before any of this & I still would have. Actually, I know I sound stupid for this, But I still do Love the guy. It is weird. But I cannot sit by without doing anything to bite him back. Only he can fix this in that regard. If it really even ever mattered to him to begin with. He played me from the very beginning is now also obvious & no LUCK involved!
I know many are laughing at me. But hey, I aint a SUPER HOAGY!!
I AM HUMAN. With faults. As is he. I did not deserve the treatment I & my family recieved from him, because he is a Buttress doing his job. I was trying to do mine. Plus waiting to do mine as he had me hanging with the promise of a job working for him. I will show his own private emails showing this. Keeping me & telling me to TIE A KNOT IN HIS ROPE & HANG ON??? Mutha F#$KA!!! He wanted to hang me. I was too blind to see it then.
I am curious of course & would love to know & share what it is or was he is supposed to be revealing. Is he still within that time frame? or is it beyond? Or is he that Monkey Wrench in the gears screwing up the plan?
Either way, where do I fit in? or do I at all? In either case, it not matters, because now I am in a fight with him. Because of things he did. If that screws with the plan?? Oh well! He shoulda thought about that before F$#KIN with ME & MINE!
Think he is not concerned?? Then why did he act as the operative he is aginst me, If I were not a threat unto him?? To expose himself to me, & me still standing. Kinda. :-/ But still fighting!!
I aint giving up, & TIME IS ALL I HAVE TO USE to break him apart!
He may have had a job to do & I can respect that. But NOT by being a DICK, did he have to do so. That is why I think someone Pre- DICK-ted him into place. Someone other than myself, considered him a DICK that needed & needs to be beaten. Pardon the pun. But if the rubber fits! :-/
Anonymous said:
"But his agenda is not my agenda and if he isn't going to reveal anything anytime soon then I am not going to sit around hoping he does."
MARS REVEALER:
Well, that is great to hear. On many FACETS of understandings. :-) Because his agenda to me, was to destroy me & my family, & my work, & my show, let alone my progress & RIGHTS, in any of those!
You sound like a man of reason. Paitiently waiting. Been waiting for a while it seems you have. Sounds heartfelt in your comment. Hmmmm. I hope you feel mine. So do you have any other CHOICES, in waiting for him or not to reveal anything anytime soon? I would like to hear them if it is ok. Your not just gonna give up are you? Letting that Buttress win us all over???
I certainly aint just gonna give up. I am lower than shit now & he created & helped much of that. Yet, that still will not stop me in trying!
cont...
Anonymous said:
"Maybe that is his agenda, to get people to waste their time with petty squabbles and mis-directing their focus away from the real important things. I don't know and don't really care."
MARS REVEALER:
Well, maybe that is or was apart of his protocol work orders? To do so to keep us all away from the truth under the surface? that can be seen, on that surface? That certainly fits this UFO Diaries scenario. Coincidence again?! :-/
However, I do not have a petty squabble against him. The real important things is what make me squabble & why I wanna play squash with him! Seems I am alone in this anyway in trying to do so. Aside from a small few who appreciate my efforts in trying to do so. :-) Maybe you do not care about that. As who the frak am I right? But I know he will NEVER FORGET ME! Nor I him!
Anonymous said:
"The bottom line is if he is a "gatekeeper then no matter what you or I say its not going to matter in what he does."
MARS REVEALER:
Ya know what? I have a friend in Netherlands (I not spoken with a while) named ALIEN GENIOUS. He once told me a few years back that Super Hoagy was a Gatekeeper. I did not get it then, nor do I care! I intend to squash him & maybe then, I will steal inside that gate, he tried to keep shut on us all!
Anonymous said:
"Now the Cydonia Face has been around for what? 20 years? And thats where Hoagland got his credibility with the Mars crowd but its never going to be the last word on the subject. At best its a 50/50 toss up as to it being artificial or not. Even the face itself could be alien or human. Again a tossup. There needs to be more evidence found or brought forward."
MARS REVEALER:
I agree, His word aint gonna be the last of anything having to do with Mars, or with the Mars crowd!! I agree about there being more evidence to be found & brought forward. I only hope & wish I can help provide that to you & all, or even get some help in doing that. That would be nice. But that seems like a joke also. Unless you can help in some ways that can give you a hope of the future that which it seems he has taken from you also??? I can relate to that!! That Buttress! You can stay anonymous even ANYONE I MEAN THIS FOR!!! I admit, I need that help. I am asking it!
You said...
"I admit it was Hoagland pushing the Cydonia Face that got me interested in all this but he seems to have dropped the ball."
MARS REVEALER:
That is funny you say that Anonymous, because Lee Shackleford asked me 'WHO CAUGHT THIS??' ;-) In this code it described a scenario that is totally having to be imagined. It says There was an illegal Player on the feild, trying to keep another player, as in check, preventing this player from getting the puck, or catching the ball! It seems I am on the ball there. Coincidences again. :-/
Plus comparing it also, to a braodcast signal trying to be received, but something was trying to block that reception. More coincidences. :-/
cont...
Anonymous said:
"He got a bunch of people to look at Mars and the possibility that the Cydonia Face could be artificial then left everyone high and dry up there while he went to the moon and back to earth trying to prove the NAZIs run NASA. I'm still on Mars wondering where he ran off too?"
MARS REVEALER:
Ha ha ha ha ha. Well, if I read deeply into this (please read me out) I can answer that riddle. he left everyone High & Dry up there on Mars, Ufo Diaries Cydonia, went to the moon, which is a small video, with him being interviewed by an austrailian dude, with Capitol Hill in the background of Hoagland, who also has been attributed as being 'A MOON'... (an ass) Thus making him, & that small video, THE MOON OF MARS! Which was broadcast to Earth. ha ha ha ha ha. The geometry of Intelligence that these 2 videos share connects them to see this. Though took some time to learn to see I admit. I apolagize to all for that one. But I still have a long way to go. So I apolagize again. But I aint quittin!
Anyway, on the serious side surface you say, I think Hoagy is right. The NAZI'S... or the NOT-SEES rather, Run the public space program NASA. Super Hoagy alays says that most do not know or are aware of what the higher ups in command know who are apart of this COVER JOB!!!
Anonymous said...:
"But lets say my suspicions about him are all wrong. Then the only other explaination is he is getting old also and took some heat from the mainstream science establishment for his views about mars."
MARS REVEALER:
I doubt your suspicions are wrong about him Anonymous, as I feel & think mine are not either. Yes getting Old & Gracefully needs to be retired. Well, after what he did to me, he will be lucky... to have grace of any kind! But I do agree, from what I learned in this code of Cydonia thus far, & from what I heard from the producers, yes,... I agree, HE TOOK SOME HEAT!!! FROM THE MAINSTREAM SCIENCE ESTABLISHMENT THAT SEES THE MARS THEY NOW KNOW! The code states he took some Pictures. Can it be the very faces of Mars images be the heat or part of the HEAT he took? Just thinking out loud. ;-) Or maybe he took some heat for taking them, from the mainstream science ESTABLISHMENT, and now, in the future, as he is now older, HE HAS TO FACE HIS VIEWS, ABOUT MARS?? (Ufo Diaries)
Anonymous said:
"So now he is concerned about his legacy when he is gone. That might explain why he wanted to write a book about the NAZIs running NASA to get more credibility in those circles."
MARS REVEALER:
His legacy when he is gone?? If I have my way which I am working to acheive, his only legacy about himself & the serious Mars research, will be of Lies & deception, & him being a fraud to the public & all knowing, it was the one he called his son... who helped that legacy to occur!! He will not be a subject of worship or honor, but a rememberance of shame & disgrace unto himself! After all, I as you or anyone else has a right to the truth. How can one honor him as being such, if he is a Liar covering that truth?? He is a False God, as is his idea of himself as a God to be remembered, & honored, is false!
I like to also state that HE was NOT the riginal person to share those ideas in his book. many sites & many documentaries are out there LONG BEFORE Super Hoagy there, decided to write them down as if it is his own research & discoveries that made that book!
He needs to be concerned about one thing...NOW! How is he gonna deal with me? How is he gonna finish this? Cause I aint gonna stop. Unless & until I get these faces of Mars images in my hands, & I get public vindication. Especially after all me & my family have been through, because of a fucking video He & his own team,... CREATED long before my interest, care, or work for Mars existed!!!
cont...
Anonymous said:
"Now instead of taking on the controversial stuff he dances around them and tailors his arguments to the academic community. Whatever the reasons MR don't get stuck in the mud like that. Move forward...Cydonia was yesterdays news."
MARS REVEALER:
"But in seriousness to your surface statement, it seems your saying he is pussin' out??? Shows he is NOT a Mighty VIKING WARRIOR AT ALL!
I will say this, though I do not fully understand your comments, but I will reply anyway. If I was to be a choice, or some type of replacement (not gettin a big head here) I will stand strong in my research & in my views about it. I owe no favors to mainstream, to suck on that schlong to appease them for the things they will or will not address or consider. I see a Mars totally different than most anyway. Whih by the wway, this UFO Diaries confirms & validates my threories of Mars anyway, from a researcher point of view. And no body much is willing to conceive yet alone believe as much anyway. Also I will add, I am already stuck in the mud, but I aint pussin out of this fight against him! Even though... It looks as if I have already lost. :-(
Someone close to me said 'STAY TRUE TO YOURSELF'!
For good or for bad, I know not the outcome from this truth. Evil or good? I know not. But how the fuck do we know, unless we know & go to where no one has gone before.... BOLDLY!!
No matter what. Nazi's, aliens... demons. Yes scares the piss outta me. BUT.... Is that enough for me to stop & drop this?? Because how the heck do I or anyone know, what good it can be for us all?? If there is none, we all still have a right, because reality is reality. Truth is truth. Truth does not come from the LIAR, or from Satan. If Satan controls this all?? Some light of Truth is trying to guide us in FACING IT ALL!
I am a visonary. I have hopes, dreams, & wants like all else should hopefully have.
No, If I have the CONTROVERSIAL GOODS I SEEK, I SURE WILL TAUNT & FLAUNT THEM FAR & WIDE! WE HAVE A SPACE RACE TO WIN & I INTEND TO DO MY PART TO WIN IT! As lowly as I am, I have rights, that as an American, I TOO... CAN HAVE A DREAM!!!! AS WELL AS CAN TAKE ONE GIANT LEAP FOR ALL MANKIND!!
But I think I hear you Anonymous. All I can say is I promise, (whatever that is worth to anyone) that I will always try to do my best, to be true to myself, & to the foundations of my work ethic in this research, & I will NOT BE REACH AROUNDED TO APPEASE THOSE WHO NOT FAVOR ME!!! I think in this fight, I showed some, of that hope to have in me.
I do not & did not want to hurt anyone, nor mess with any secret societies etc, or fuck with people in power. UNLESS THEY DESERVE TO BE!
I just want the truth. I want these images. I want answers. I want to have my work, my show, my family, freinds, & us all, to be happy & to be stable. Yet I am the bad guy in this all.
cont...
I do not ever wanna be a BUTTRESS, nor be PRE-DICK-TED into anything as he was. I am sure he pissed off certain folks that may have had him deserve all this. All I can say is that I take my work seriously & want to make my difference upon the Earth & beyond, before I go! I have that right!! I am downtrodden, low, broke, in suffering, & in humiliation because of who I am & my work. Who can be impressed with me??
But it aint all about me nor is it my place to make it that way. Unlike a Buttress we all know. I just want a life. I want my life. Is it wrong Anonymous, to have a desire to do something important? To do something that makes a difference??? To others & to my world for others???
I mean if it is wrong, then why the F#%K be alive at all? I admit to all.. it not matters,... I am only alive still, to fight, as if I still have hope to be my potential, because someone wanted to take it all from me as if they or HE is the determinant factor of my doing so as if I need his permission.
God gave me my desire & gave me this work I am convinced. That Buttress aint God!!! I only pray each day he will see & hear me & my families prayers, & the prayers of us all, that I can succeed. That WE ALL CAN SUCCEED!!!
If these BOYZ of his want me to shut my yap... Then by all means. Kill me now. I would have already done this myself for them I tell you the truth. But someone gave me a reason to live!! More than one person. One I appreciate & ask blessings for that person, even though I think he hates me, & the other,... I AM OUT TO PAY HIM BACK FOR DESTROYING MY LIFE!
I wish none of this was even happening. You know the funny thing Anonymous? is that I think & feel this code is likea communication TO ME! To aid me in some way, because it was seen what was to occur beforehand, & possibly gave me an edge for a weapon I can use to fight this immense POWERS THAT BE who want to prevent me from fullfilling my potential.
I once said to Chuck Sellier, This code seems to possibly be a Trojan Horse. To which in reply he says; "That brings up Satanic implications to this, because what side of the Force, Gave this to us???
I am a sinner yes. But I believe personally In jesus. yes go figure, a Jesus freak who believes in the Martians & aliens. ;-)
I can only put my faith as weak or as strong it is or can be, in the Lord to help me solve this. Because I was & am on this path & I must walk this path. I pray he will guide me & protect me because I am dealing with powers beyond my lowly self.
But I will not pussy away from it. Maybe this is for me to test of myself?? For me to see & know who I really am inside. I swear though Anonymous or anyone else, I donot want to be a DICK in this work or in this life to anyone. Even if that was my JOB! Certainly not manipulate or destroy peoples lives & families & work!
I would be deservant of death.I just want to do what is right.
I FEEL THIS IS RIGHT ANONYMOUS! No, not all that has happened, but to pursue the truth. To keep fighting. Even as weak & low as I am. It is all I have. If I fail, maybe in my mind & soul, I feel like maybe I have failed myself. Not just myself, but ALL who have supported me, or wanted me to succeed.
Now I sound like a puss ay? But I have to be true to myself.
I have nothing left but what I have. My family at the moment, my work (if you can call it that anymore) & my DREAM & VISION to make that difference that can help us all.
cont...
I do not wish to give anyone reason to place me in any mud of THEIR OWN! As I said, If I am the enemy, I already am in the mud & it is from Hoagy & those who share his mindset.
THEY ARE MY ENEMIES... & YOURS!!!
I want to move forward & wish that can happen Anonymous. But as I said, without help, or infoz that can lead me to show or get truths we all want & deserve, I am already stuck in the mud. Fighting!! At least! For whatever that is worth of my efforts, I cannot tell. But I have not given up yet to stay in this fight.
I can only say I hope I never let you & many others down. yet I feel as if I already had to be honest. Otherwise, things would already have been different.
Maybe I just said a bit too much. But who gives a shit anyway?? This is as far as I am concerned so far anyway, this is MY FIGHT. There appears to be no light of hope for any help.
So forgive my failures all. But I swear, gievn the chance, I will show all what I am made of. I will not let youz down...again!!!
Sorry if your sleepy or disgusted at my words, but this is my blog. If one can call it that. No one has to read right?
Cydonia may be yesterday's news, but it has still to be in the news to the Cydonia I am speaking about & what they have to offer us if we can get our hands on them faces of Mars images!!!
If anything, just so I can say HEY... TOLD YA YOU F%#king pozers!!!
Thanks for reading me out & dealing with me. Many more thanks in advance to ANYONE OUT THERE READING THIS... THAT CAN HELP ME! NOT BE PUSSIES!!! Fear of your jobs?? Your lives??? How the fuck do you think I feel?? Yet, I am still fighting! Be true to yourselves!!! Even if it costs your life. There IS HONOR IN THAT!!!!
If I die or am killed because of my investigation, or anyone else, that sucks...! But one must stay true to themselves, especially in their work & NOT let or make money be your determinate factor. I believe if it is worthwhile anyway, one would be blessed with that stuffs. A fool I may be, but I have to believe in something. I have to have hope. Even though I admit I feel hope fading & feel lost at times.
I think about the WHAT IF'S!!!!i THINK OF THE POSSIBILITIES, OF GOOD THINGS FOR ALL. Even if it is bad. Maybe I am a sucker. But at least I am standing up for what I feel is the right thing to do. Continue seeking the truth. being a man. A Real man, & not a reacharounded pozer pussy who wants to make a god outta himself or herself as a legacy that is unworthy to begin with to make one of themselves.
I can only hope you see the good in me, of what type of difference I can make. Especially if it is a righteous one to make. I feel I am doing that. That is why I do not give up & my anger fuels me, but I use that to keep my desire to stay strong. I have to survive. I do not know how I am going to. My family did not deserve this. But this is bigger than myself.
cont...
I have to stand on what I feel is right. That is what a man is really supposed to do right???
So... what am I supposed to do??? Hopefully that rang the right bells to someone, cause I admit, I need your helps! I ask again, for those that can, to please help in any ways possible.
We demand & need these Images!!
Hoagland can never come out to play with them now, as he would definitely be exposed. Feels like someone gave me a means to cut him off at the pass. 'I Hate That Old Cliche!!' ;-)
MARS REVEALER
MR I'm trying to keep an open mind about this which is easy to do because I am not involved in any way.
My first impression is you talked about how you made the choice to join RH and his research which you say he took advantage of. My question is why did you choose to help him? You have to take responsibility for the choices you make. Were there any clues out there that what happened to you might have been expected? I came to that comclusion and it was a simple thing to do.
First I knew that there are thousands of people who hang on to Hoagland's every word. In fact he inspired many people into doing their own research. Its almost like some people worship him. So when I came along and knowing all this I was surprised to look at his many websites and all I could find were links to his own websites. No links to the websites of some of the newer people that came into this because of him. That tells me he doesn't care one bit about his fans and the people he himself inspired to follow in his footsteps. He is of no help to any of them and there are many people doing this now. A lot of nice young curious minds out there that I have met.
Then you said this,
Quote MR:
"You see anonymous, This is & was No ordinary video documentary! It is a coded masterpiece upon which I am able to see some of it & able to learn things from it of information. INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION being given to us all!"
So by your own statements you say Hoagland did you wrong but then you admit he gave you a masterpiece to work with. In my book that would make it about even between you two. He took and then he gave to you.
Here is my theory. Hoagland wants to get some of this information out but the "powers that be" are watching him very closely. So he knows you are the only one smart enough to break the code if he puts it out in coded form. So he picks a fight with you to fool the people that control him. Now he waits for you or someone as smart as you to break the code to his leaked information. When that happens then he can point to the fact that you hate him and hold a grudge against him so why would he leak you anything? They are convinced and Hoagland is safe from their wrath and you have the Mars Holy Grail in the palm of your hands. It seems strange that you hate him but yet he gave you something of great important value. No offense but you come off as an ingrate.
Seems to me there are only two possibilities here. Either you know thats what happened and this grudge against Hoagland is just a show on your part to protect him from the real powers or you didn't figure that out and are smart enough to break the code but not smart enough to figure out why it had to be done this way which to me would be the easiest part to figure out.
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Anonymous... I will reply back in day or so. Interesting comments & thoughts. Ingrate??? Fuck that shit!
Sounds like your kinda defending him. But as I said, I will reply in more detail. By the way a thing to ponder,... HE DID NOT GIVE ME THIS!! He wanted to run warp speed away from this code & investigation! After encouraging me no less!
But let me reply to your comments. Thanks for replying & I hope to set things rite in your understandings some!! Think of me what you will. He deserves payback for what he did to me & my family!! He aint tried to fix it neither!! Nor did he get any info to ANYONE at Enterprise or elsewheres about his serious research into the things he said he would if I (who is the someone who did the serious legwork for him) to bring us all forth answers!!
Yeah... I'll explain some of that shit for you to see & understand!!
Be a day or so before I put my reply forth. Thanks for the patience.
MR there is nothing I know about him to defend. I have never spoken to the man and have never worked with him. Everything I am saying here is just my theories and what you say and what I know about him as a public figure. If I were here to defend him I would not have said he does not help out others who decided to follow in his footsteps.
If I am guilty of anything its trying to be fair to him considering he is not here to defend his side. Doesn't mean I think he is innocent but on the other hand I cannot be fair if I come at this like you are innocent either. I'm just trying to make some sense of it.
You said,
Quote MR:
"He wanted to run warp speed away from this code & investigation! After encouraging me no less!"
If someone was looking over his shoulders wouldn't that be the way he should act? He encourages you and then when he knows you recognised the code he runs in order to fool his "handlers" into thinking he did not give that stuff to you on purpose. I mean he couldn't just come right out in public and hand you information he knows could get him killed by the "powers that be" could he?
anyways this is what I'm getting so far. He treated you like crap.........then you started treating him like crap as revenge. Then you got something of great value in those codes because of him. Seems like you got the best of this deal. Not sure what the point is to continue this grudge when you came out on top. why not just wipe the slate clean and get on with your Mars research and if you still don't trust Hoagland then don't work with him and go your own seperate way with your reaearch?
Take your time, no rush to respond....I have plenty of time.
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MR - Thanks for the info and VIDEOS!!! ;-)
Anonymous - I disagree with you about this comment
"No matter what is said the cydonia Face and those other faces will never prove a thing. At best its a toss up if those things are artificial."
All it would take is another FOM(with image number) as good as the Cydon to seal the deal.
You brought up some good points with
"The question that should have been asked of Hoagland is how did he come to that conclusion? How does he know they were humans related to us earthlings on Mars at one time? There is no way he could have come to that conclusion from just the cydonia face."
I have an answer to that, RCH is trying to help push an idea/religion for the group he is connected with.
I agree with you about
"I look at Hoagland and what I see was a 20 year old that came out of nowhere to become the head of some science Museum. Next thing you know he is sitting beside Walter Cronkite on national TV as some space advisor. Now was that just some lucky break or some young guy being in the right place at the right time? I don't think so. Things like that just don't happen from pure luck. Some powerful people were backing him."
One of the fronts was SRI and their connection had deep pockets! ;-)
Hi Anonymous. Ok. I guess this will be lengthy as now I have 2 replies of yours to answer about. Let's begin.
Anonymous said:
"MR I'm trying to keep an open mind about this which is easy to do because I am not involved in any way."
MARS REVEALER:
Ok. If you say so, it is understood I see your position. ;-)
Anonymous said:
"My first impression is you talked about how you made the choice to join RH and his research which you say he took advantage of."
MR:
That is not what I said Anonymous! But I understand you think that is your impression. So it is a wrong impression.
Anonymous said...
"My question is why did you choose to help him? You have to take responsibility for the choices you make. Were there any clues out there that what happened to you might have been expected? I came to that comclusion and it was a simple thing to do."
MR:
I did NOT choose to help him. He wanted me to help him! It was kinda a mutual thing. Now in regard to the Mars research, of course I wanted to help him, as he had me convinced (as many others) that he was serious about Mars & the research going on. So as an independant Mars researcher, of course I wanted to help him. Especially when he made it clear he wanted to help me with other sides to my Mars research, which was a more public venue for the public in bringing them into this amazing research. I was made years ago an honorary member of Enterprise Mission, which was cool, because he seen the value in my work & ideas, plus my dedication to this research. So I thought! :-/
Responsibility for the choices I make?? As if I was & is the one who done something wrong here?? Hey, I was NOT expecting him to be a DICK! Not with being who he is supposed be be & what he represents. I was NOT expecting or thinking he would be something other than what he appeared to me & to all else! I was not expecting to be lied to & be set up!! Sounds like your throwing blame upon me for what all that happened anonymous.
To answer your other question, yes, there were signs that something was not right tween me & him, during those years. Some things made me alerted, but not to the point of being paranoid about it. I was trying to be foucused upon my work & efforts. As much as that is worth to anyone, but to me it was & IS!I just took it I was the one feeling wrong, as I know & knew he was a busy man. Many pressures. So I would not let things bother me much.
To expect all that has happened to me & my family, from when my main issues with him began, was NOT expected at all!!! Especially when he had me & mine CONVINCED he was serious & not about to let anything happen to us. He lied & set us up!
You see Anonymous, to me, all was cool, until I revealed these Faces from UFO DIARIES to Enterprise Mission. Back in June 2006! Then he whoop dee dood! That is when & why all this trouble tween me & him started. I thought it was later actually, but reflecting back, I now see better! I could give all details here, but that would make this replies much longer & much of that anyway, is here on the blog to help show some of that explanation. I aint the one though who has explaining to do!!
It aint a simple conclusion to come to as you did, because he was my friend. He told me he was my best friend. Even called me his son, more than once! So obviously, it was easy at that point to be trusting of him. So that would not have been so simple to conclude as you say. Much more was involved. We were much closer that you tend credit. But I hear what your saying.
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"First I knew that there are thousands of people who hang on to Hoagland's every word. In fact he inspired many people into doing their own research. Its almost like some people worship him. So when I came along and knowing all this I was surprised to look at his many websites and all I could find were links to his own websites. No links to the websites of some of the newer people that came into this because of him. That tells me he doesn't care one bit about his fans and the people he himself inspired to follow in his footsteps. He is of no help to any of them and there are many people doing this now. A lot of nice young curious minds out there that I have met."
MARS REVEALER:
They may HANG on his every word, as me & my family did! On His WORD, He HUNG us!! Told me even to Hold On His Rope, to Tie a Knot in it, & HANG on!! Looking back now, it was a threat of what he was really trying to do. HANG US!! But covered it with a lie of meaning to help us. Just like people hanging on his every word in speeches, & in articles. They are DEAF!!! For if they really did, they would notice & would have noticed, if they were paying attention to him, that he was trying to get them to look deeper into the things he was saying & outright hinting at something to be seen or gleaned in his words that tells a hidden story, to be found, & even challenges these people to discover it!! That is in nearly everything that he does! I know it is weird, yet so am I! Maybe that is why I see something or some of it?!
He showed impression to others, & to me & mine, that he cared about us! But that was only to secure the Noose around our heads! As already explained! I agree he inspired & still inspires people to do Mars research also. It was not for me to judge who he linked to or not. He linked to me & mine on more than one occasion, so who am I to say anything? But I agree, I feel folks were being left out! But I figured he knew what he was doing. I could not explain it nor would I make excuses for him in not doing so. Because some have complained to me about it as if I had some pull or something to change that. But at least me in my work, I tried to include others & encouraged their participation! As much as that is worth anyway. To me, it counts! because yes, there are many young curious minds out there! By the way, I WAS & STILL AM.... ONE OF THEM!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"Quote MR:
"You see anonymous, This is & was No ordinary video documentary! It is a coded masterpiece upon which I am able to see some of it & able to learn things from it of information. INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION being given to us all!"
So by your own statements you say Hoagland did you wrong but then you admit he gave you a masterpiece to work with. In my book that would make it about even between you two. He took and then he gave to you."
MARS REVEALER:
I did NOT admit that HE GAVE ME THIS!!! He did NOT! I brought this forth. NOT HIM to be discussed & dealt with! I think that someone else... Gave me & gave us all this masterpiece bizzarre puzzle, that which this information comes from. That Super Hoagy there did NOT want us all to see or know, much less ask serious questions about it! Your book is worng I am sorry to say. EVEN???? No way! I aint even close to getting EVEN with him... YET!!
He tried to prevent me & not wanted me to pursue this. Once I started to see this CODE underneath the surface. because he noticed I seen it followed a breadcrumb trail.... TO HIM! To something that bothered him, that made him change his mind about me investigating into this! Again, more can be said.
HE TOOK... NOT GAVE!! What he took from me & mine, I want payback for! He has NOT tried to fix anything he broken!! So please read another BOOK Anonymous. Because we are NOT even! Not even close!
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"Here is my theory. Hoagland wants to get some of this information out but the "powers that be" are watching him very closely."
MARS REVEALER:
Interesting theory. However, forgive me please when I say WHO GIVES A SHIT?? From my family & my perspective, what does that have to do with us & what he did to us? That would make it ok for us to go with that potential fact you bring up?? The way I see it Now he has yet another unknown factor to worry about! Based upon things he said & done to make it that way!! To PREVENT US FROM SEEING, OR ASKING, OR BELIEVING... A CODE EVEN EXISTS! Or even these Faces. No Anonymous... He took from us... NOT GAVE!!! I want payback!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"So he knows you are the only one smart enough to break the code if he puts it out in coded form. So he picks a fight with you to fool the people that control him."
MARS REVEALER:
Yeah Rite!! I aint so sure about that! This code implies I am the MOST Reachable. (Hope meant in terms of this code message) That implies that others too, can be reached! But maybe not as much as me? He did more than pick a fight tween me & him. I will say the people he intened to fool, if your theory is correct,... Were NOT fooled! As it is THEY apparently, who encoded this information maybe as an extra bonus to be gleaned? Something that maybe slipped by Super Hoagy there way back when?? I know not! Nor do I care! Ya see, OUR TEAM, or OUR OWN, is a group, that this code claims, That Super Hoagy there, again, is a MEMBER OF OUR TEAM! To me, it is they, who gave me this info, (even implied is actual Martians that helped create this THING!) Maybe it was for me to use it against him, which was why he did what he did to me, because he was worried I would DIS-COVER who he really is??
He thought very little of me as a friend if he thought I would fuck him over like that. It would not have been intentional anyway. But this code is strange. It is meant to do things! Time was seen through or even crossed in helping to create it! That I am convinced of. The producer even clarified that enough in things he said to me in regards to a CODE in UFO DIARIES! I am sure you heard his comments by now?!
ANONYMOUS said...
"Now he waits for you or someone as smart as you to break the code to his leaked information. When that happens then he can point to the fact that you hate him and hold a grudge against him so why would he leak you anything?"
MARS REVEALER:
Well, I do not know what to say. Either way it spells out he fucked me over! I for one wanna state AGAIN... I DO NOT HATE HIM! I did say in an earlier post & in more than one venue that I still love the Ol Koot! Remember, he was like a dad to me in ways, & my BEST FRIEND in others! I am pissed at him & want payback to show him that what he did to me & my family cannot & WILL NOT GO WITHOUT GETTIN PAYBACK! He is a mighty person. Who the fuck am I??? Ya know??? That made me even more wanting to pursue him to make him suffer as he made me & mine suffer. WHICH BY THE WAY, WE ARE STILL SUFFERING from all that!!! So a grudge is an understatement! Either way as you spell it Anonymous, he is not nor was NOT wanting me to glean anything, let alone bring his leaked info forth! This aint about that to me. It is only but a part of what my efforts now are to make him see & understand, that he fucked with the wrong guy, & the wrong family!!! You see, the way I see it, if he does have leaked infoz to give via this code, he was NOT & does NOT want anyone but himself to be the one to show it? If ever he really wants to that is! he speaks alotta shit! He wants his Face to be the only Face of Mars, in more ways than one!! That gives me a target range! Amongst... others, for me to utilize to swoop him over!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"They are convinced and Hoagland is safe from their wrath and you have the Mars Holy Grail in the palm of your hands."
MARS REVEALER:
'They' meaning his OUR OWN TEAM-MEMBERS that are watching him? They are convinced?? Ha ha ha! Again, I think NOT!! They seen & KNOW what he did to me! I am convinced now of that! Hoagland is lying to them & playing them also it seems. Again, WHO GIVES A SHIT??? That does NOT over ride the importance of me & my family & what he did to us & what we are still suffering from because of his actions to us! It seems no matter what I seen anyway, again, he did not nor does not want me or anyone else to bring forth anything! He thinks he is smarter than his own Team! If they do believe in him, then sad to say, they deserve what they get! But my impression is they are aware, & that Hoagland deserves what he gets! See the twist here? ;-)
Now regards to me having the HOLY GRAIL of Mars in the palm Of My Hands?? What is that?? Ha ha ha!!! That DICK Hoagland??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ok.. seriousness now... If you mean this code? Then so what???? That does NOT change what he did to me or mine & what we are still going through & suffering because of that. What am I to do with it? Especially when most do not believe me anyway??? I NEED THESE PICTURES TO PROVE SOME OF THAT!!! He has them... & I want them!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"It seems strange that you hate him but yet he gave you something of great important value. No offense but you come off as an ingrate."
MARS REVEALER:
Again, I do NOT hate him! But he does deserve my foot breakin off in his ass! I am also considering very much value of what he gave me & my family all right!!! That is what this is all about! For my issues with him that is. Which again, he will nOT fix what he broken! So who is the ingrate here really? It aint me!!! I just want him to do what is right by me & mine, & fix things!
ANONYMOUS SAID:
"Seems to me there are only two possibilities here. Either you know thats what happened and this grudge against Hoagland is just a show on your part to protect him from the real powers or you didn't figure that out and are smart enough to break the code but not smart enough to figure out why it had to be done this way which to me would be the easiest part to figure out."
MARS REVEALER:
Look Anonymous, I am not stupid, & of course I have contemplated that my actions in a way might be beneficial to him of some kind. Of what I could not figure. My grudge is real against him, & I know also that my actions (because of his actions) will also lead me to hurt him as well. As he hurt me & mine & we cannot get out of the mess he caused much to put us in!
cont...
Also, if it is the code they are worried about, then wouldn't I be an enemy?? Why would they be concerned with Super Hoagy,... When someone... Has a Holy Grail in the palm of his hand? As you yourself says. Ya know what is funny? I did a MR Show Mysterious Pictures where Hoagland even says that what I am dealing with is a Holy Grail! Hmmmm. I also like to state that I would be a threat it seems to the powers that be?! Yet no one is concerned about me & mine? So why focus on Super Hoagy??? Hoagland was serious before we had a falling out when he said 3 times & made me aware he was serious, that I was John Connor! He would not elaborate. But wanted me to know he was serious & telling me the matrix is very real! So I figure if he was serious, which he was, then I am a threat to someone. I do not know the veracity of such as again, WHO AM I?? I aint a Super Hoagy! I am just someone who wanted & still wants answers, some mysterious picture data, some vindication, my work & show back,.. & most of all.... PAYBACK!!! Because he did not do to me out of LOVE Anonymous! He did lies & deception & a hatred of me to hurt me & mine! If what he did was to cover his own ass, he did NOT give me anything to show or help me recover from those blows. He hated me & my work & my show! That is clear now! He has made me an enemy who will NOT stop until he realizes what he had done & that the monster that I am now.... HE CREATED!! Again, because he did NOT want us to see or know anything! Because it seems there was more to this code than what he originally had thought!
Look, he can still fix this. I never said he had no chances! But he must do so to set things right! because I am NOT gonna stop. One day soon he will realize that & may then wish to do so. By then it will be too late for him to do so!
I did NOT create this fucking code nor it's video, nor was it me who placed these faces of Mars images to that Cydonia SUN-SET!!!!
But I will state that this code seemed to imply, it has seen the one whom will bring it forth?! Even the screenwriter Lee Shackleford stated that WE HAD TO INVENT A CHARECTAR WHO'S GUESSING! Geee.. I wonder who the fuck that can be?? ;-)
To me, this code, this video, these images of Faces of Mars would NOT be seen at all, if SOMEONE WITH POWER... Did NOT want us to see these things! Again, I did NOT create the fucking THING!
So in a way, to me, I see something given unto me to use as a weapon against Super heros! Or against... VILLANS!!! How much of the Code can I see into?? John Connor would NOT give such infoz away... Nor shall I!
The creators of this show I already had on the record. saying cryptic & now connecting things, I did not get or see then. However, they were clear... These images came from NASA & HOAGLAND! THERE YOU ARE!! ONE OF HIMS GONNA SAY YEAH... THOSE ARE.... OURS!!!!
Take that as you may!
cont...
But contemplate this, as you yopurself say, that Hoagland aint here to defend himself. Notice also the one yet to rebutt on the record what has been alleged by his own TEAM MEMBERS, is yet to appear to defend himself on the record about this,.. is SUPER HOAGY HIMSELF???
Now Look at it like this, why would these guys from the show come on & tell us truths, & yet at the same time many think Hoagland is innocent?? What happens to a person who has to appear to court, where WITNESSES show up & testify against the one needed to show up, & then that person does not appear to the court??? What happens then?? Whose case becomes strengthened?? In the eyes of the court, or in this case, the court of public opinion!?!
Why would they come forth if they did not want us to see or know anything, & yet tell so very much!!?? The one that I see & feel is most threatened by this code, or me even,.. is NOT them of the POWER, But Super Hoagy himself who is most threatened!! yet a coincidence it is ay?? When seeing & knowing what he did to me & mine to prevent me from pursuing this THING & it's informations that he is obvious, does NOT want to come out?!
Why would the creators themselves want to provide me with information that I admit was used & helped me be able to solidify what I was seeing? It even brought me to brighter LIGHT in understanding this code! To see it better even. Now, if they are the enemy, why would they give me such a powerful tool or weapon that would help me build this structure, this ARTIFACT! This code shown me & told me that he would NOT appear to his summons to appear! It also went into detail, as like in a real court, of what would happen if a person did not appear to their hearing. A warrant of arest will be issued. The arrest described is a cardiac arrest, for it implicated this arrest shall cause his chest to be cracked open & hunreds will appear to his funeral! yeah... Talk about spooky shit! BUT... I TOLD HIM THAT LONG AGO & he blew it off as people telling NONSENSE to me! I CARED & CARE FOR HIM! That is why I told him that. Plus he was wanting reports on things I was finding.
But what this is now, is what needs to be done! Code or no code. Spooks or no spooks. Powers that be or no powers that be. I want & will get payback from him! One way or another!
It seems in the past he fucked with his team, they fucked with him. He fucked with me, & now... well ya know where this is going. ;-)
I want my life back & all promised from that Buttress. Of which he taken from us! This is personal & very open as I will not sit or stand or suffer by continuing to let him be worshipped as a great God when he is a liar & a fraud to the public that worships him! Yet me & my family are doomed to suffer from what he caused for us! As well as for the Enterprise Mission people & all thinking he is of the truth... of the light! yt he is a deceiver playing a fiddle that many sheeeple are following that pied piper.
yet I do admit, he still hints at things beneath the things he says & connects to this code I SEE! But I do not think he likes to allude to such things because he is the one who not really wants anyone to see or solve it! I think his TEAM wants us all to see & solve it! Am I worng?? Then if his life was or is in danger & him being super Hoagy & all, then why am I still alive??? Come fuckin kill me already, cause that is the only thing that will stop me. if I cannot be myself, do my work, be who I am... Why live??? This is bigger than myself or my family. Threaten them?? make me madder go ahead! Take them from me, better kill me also cause If I get my hands around your throat, all their team will NOT be able to pry me loose before I snap your neck! If I am John Connor, it gives me reason to win the war all the more!! Or DIE TRYING!!!
cont...
I did NOT deserve this, nor did or do they! Again I id NOT make this fucking code or it's videos, nor was it I who had connection to these secret 'Old yet New' Faces of Mars THEY WANTED US ALL TO SEE ON THE SURFACE NO LESS!!! Sheeesh!
ANONYMOUS SAID:
"MR there is nothing I know about him to defend. I have never spoken to the man and have never worked with him. Everything I am saying here is just my theories and what you say and what I know about him as a public figure. If I were here to defend him I would not have said he does not help out others who decided to follow in his footsteps."
MARS REVEALER:
Well, your doing a grand job for him nonetheless in defensive tactics in my opinion. Trying to make subtle excuses as to reasons why he may have done me & mine the way he did & shit. No offence, I do not buy it nor do I care. It is a fight this is now. It does not matter his reasons anymore does it??? None of those reasons excuses his actions or his needed to be pursued by me to pay him back! If anything, his TEAM is the ones who placed into place the means to OUT HIM to us all. Think about that! if he is scared of them, & they maybe, just maybe, are helping me, or at least he thinks they have, then what a threat Hoagland must feel from me & should well be worried!?
As I said, come KILL ME!! I would have done that myself way back when, but I was too important he says. In some ways, much of that is what & when this all started. So KILL me! I aint gonna go down without this fight! That Rich bastard needs to learn some things about true friends. He needs to learn that humans are important! Not just to be treated as he treats them & his only care (in his own words) is how important it is that people see a weathy man in his work. As if that is what people most care about! Only his rich scumbag snob nosed cocksuckers who are all fake anyway to the rest of the public. Because it is they who are milking the public in this research, that makes them feel so important & gives them the right to be the say. NOT ON MY WATCH!! If I have my way, I am going to crumble that facade & expose it what it truly is. Look who also that road leads to in order to do that?? Because he is the biggest DICK in the market controlling & spinnning it for the others!!
yeah... coincidence it was I was to see this code ay??? Coincidence it was to have me find this?? Coincidence it was to have me being the one to pursue him because most & nearly all else are PUSSIES & FAKE TO THEIR SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH????
They all have NO BALLS!! None ask or openly question him regarding this investigation that he again, openly encouraged NOT only me, but all else as well to do the serious legwork to get him the information so he can get us the important infoz to all that shit!!
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID:
"If I am guilty of anything its trying to be fair to him considering he is not here to defend his side. Doesn't mean I think he is innocent but on the other hand I cannot be fair if I come at this like you are innocent either. I'm just trying to make some sense of it."
MARS REVEALER:
Yes... being fair to him while wanting to TRY to make me see a different path to make it all ok in what he did to me & MINE!! SCREW THAT SHIT! Make your sense of it yet does it really matter?? I & MY FAMILY ARE THE IMPORTANT ONES THIS CONCERNS!!! As he did what he did to US... NOT YOU!! You have NO IDEA what we are still going through stemmed from all that! Nothing you can or will say will change my mind about paying him back. Since again, he will NOT fix things!! Which again, he can. I gotten no calls from him. He knows my number. He did in secrecy to me & mine, now I openly chase him, & will catch him.... & you can figure out the rest when an animal reaches it's prey!!!
As we were his prey. Only a miracle possibly, or with some HELP, were we able to hang on a thread, & now make him MINE!!!
So please make some sense out of that, as I am sure I am making sense. & Now I have plenty of sense, enough anyway to be able to reach my prey!
ANONYMOUS SAID:
"Quote MR:
"He wanted to run warp speed away from this code & investigation! After encouraging me no less!"
If someone was looking over his shoulders wouldn't that be the way he should act? He encourages you and then when he knows you recognised the code he runs in order to fool his "handlers" into thinking he did not give that stuff to you on purpose. I mean he couldn't just come right out in public and hand you information he knows could get him killed by the "powers that be" could he?"
MARS REVEALER:
By destroying my life & trying to destory my family? By trying to have me committed? By smear campaigning me? By banning me from Enterprise as if a person with shame when he is only trying to prevent his shame from being seen?? By using lies & deception & insulting bribes to try to stop me from investigating?? That is how he should act ay?? yet NOT fixing what he broken to cover the shit he did to have to do that???? Like a real friend would. Thank God he aint my dad, cause only goes to show what he would do to his own son if I were his real son!
Again though, regards to the powers that be?? WHO GIVES A SHIT??? He handled me... Now he is gonna be handled in more ways than one!!Again, he NOT gave me the fucking code! he was wanting me to stop looking into it & was working to prevent me from discovering it! NOT encouraging it! he only said that on the surface, along with other cryptic things mind you, & just to look like he was looking into it seriously for benefit of all who were watching!! Now he needs to worry about ME! This primative can be very resourceful & trust me... I will NOT stop or relent in my pursuit to destroy him. His legacy will be one of shame & condemnation. NOT FAME!! Unless, he wants this all to stop?? Then he can fix.
I do want this shit to stop I admit & always stated. It is ugly & will get more ugly especially for him by the time I am through with him. I aint no silver spoon fed pussy from the prairie. He fucked with a street punk from New York & we fight our brawls! Win or lose!
If I were the real threat, I'd already been dead! I aint scared of Super Hoagy or his team. Who am I to be a threat to them? Only one of their team I want & will get!
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"anyways this is what I'm getting so far. He treated you like crap.........then you started treating him like crap as revenge."
MARS REVEALER:
Treating like crap is the minimal that has happened your not using your imagination as to what is going to happen in my efforts to him. ;-)
My revenge is only just beginning!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Then you got something of great value in those codes because of him. Seems like you got the best of this deal."
MARS REVEALER:
Because of HIM??? or because of something or someone else in this code he not realized that also wanted me to see more into the things he did to me & it seems, to them as well?!
Great value in what?? trying to speak about what should be impossible & have no one believe you or think about what it is?? Great value that I have no value to make anything become more value to all & not just myself regarding this THING??? A great value to have been fucked over & nearly destroyed because of that value he not greatly wanted to be seen by others??? What is the great value you speak of Anonymous?? It alludes me.
I got the best of the deal ya think ay? Hmmmm. That is why he is makin thousands of dollars, living in a nice big house, has a car, eats very well, sleeps comfortably at night, vcan pay his bills, can do his so called serious Mars research (what a crock a shit) & have internet & become a GOD??? Yeah.. he seems to have the best of the deal, for I have NONE OF THOSE THINGS! WHICH IS WHAT HE PROMISED & TOOK AWAY & TRIED TO DESTROY OF ME & MINE!!!
Seems you are wanting me to sit by & allow him to continue being the DICK & me being ok with it & not do anything to hurt him. if so, your sadly mistaken. NOT just you anonymous, I appreciate your replies. But my message goes out to all that hath ears to hear & hath eyes to see! THIS IS WAR!!!!
I value the things I learned in this code because I was taught several things about many things in dealing & trying to see & solve this code. One is a detective, one is an archeologist, one is a law clerk, one is someone who is trying to decipher a language & figure it out, one is someone who i told I am a primative being that would someday become a human being! If that does not sound like someone being given an education, that I know not what does! But why educate your enemy that may pose a threat??? Especially in the SENSE,.. of being JOHN CONNOR????
I am in a fight because of this DEAL! That he broke NOT just to me either, but also to Chuck Sellier who was pissed Hoagland not had me working(which is what Hoagland told him) & yelled that HE THOUGHT WE HAD A DEAL??? As if I was aware of a deal tween him & super Hoagy that may be more than what was thought by me!! Make no mistake, he was pissed off at that Buttress!!
Somethings tell me it aint the 1st time. :-/
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"Not sure what the point is to continue this grudge when you came out on top."
MARS REVEALER:
Ha ha HA. Ya know another funny thing. (one needs a sense of humor) In this code it alludes to the fact that Hoagland is the TOP, & I am the BOTTOM, Him being the Older, & me being the younger. Now follow me here! It states that I needed to re-orient myself! That implies this code KNOWS he was on top... of me. HE WAS FUCKING ME!!! So I was hinted I needed to re-orient myself, to be the one on TOP! Now I am gonna fuck Him!!! The code then alludes that he deserves to be graciously retired. Graciously?? NOT IF I CAN HELP IT!!!
But let us look at it in the sense I am sure your applying here. How did I come out on top??? I really want an answer. Me & Mine are SUFFERING STILL.... POOR ASS BROKE, NO CAR, LIVING IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE IN 'OUR OWN'S BACKYARD (Cheyenne Mountain area) in what I compare to be a fucking reservation with no hope & a dead end street literally & figuratively! No work, No internet, No radio show, no Job with him working for him as he swore & made us believe. No ways to buy anything.
Now, in what scenario you think I come out on top in this Anonymous?? Unless you overlook me & my families needs & concerns to live & have a life & me doing my important SERIOUS MARS RESEARCH??? Either way, seems like your spelling out to me to accept it & allow him that did this to us to go in peace??? I am an AMERICAN 1ST OFF! I aint from Crapistan or from those slimy chinks in China!! I have rights. It also is apparent that this code alludes also to them caring about my CIVIL RIGHTS THAT DICK HOAGLAND VIOLATED OF ME!!! Maybe that is why I sense maybe a bit of help in wanting me to see some things?? I know not. Again who am I? I NOT wanted to fuck with anybody nor hurt anybody. I do now, & He is a BIG DICK much deserving what he has coming in more ways than one!!! It is just how it is. UNLESS HE FIXES THINGS. Which he aint! I have 3 years under my belt in this crazy ass investigation from the twilight zone! many strange things have happened. Yet I am gonna nonetheless pursue him & get my revenge!! Because if not me... then who???
My family deserves to have someone defend & fight for us. No one cares, so it is up to me. He will suffer! I promise! 3 years of built up anger & suffering. We will see who comes out on top!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"why not just wipe the slate clean and get on with your Mars research and if you still don't trust Hoagland then don't work with him and go your own seperate way with your reaearch?"
MARS REVEALER:
It aint me who has to wipe it clean! This is HIS SHIT he created, so he needs to squeeze the Charmin 1st!! Again, I am open to him fixing things! But he not wants to, or I would already would have had a call from him & some serious moves on his part to prove he wants things fixed & slates clean!
My work with Mars research & the show is broken. If I had the means, I would have probably cleaned that slate myself long ago!! I do not have what he has to get things done. He needs to fix that as well!
But anything I can use or take as advantage to use to be able to pursue him & culminate to what is gonna happen, I am using & will use all I can to make him suffer, as he did to me & mine! ESPECIALLY.... THIS CODE!!!
As I said, I want payback!! That took actions to put us where we are, & it will take actions by him, to get us out of this SHIT HE NEEDS TO WIPE!!!
Then maybe I will be more understanding & at a level where I can care for his situations. Till then... WHO GIVES A SHIT????
We did not deserve this living hell. Payback time is coming!!!
So think or believe what you will Anonymous. I cannot tell you who or what to believe.
But again, you do not see him defending himself neither do ya??
I was NOT his enemy, nor was I wanting to be his his enamy! He made me one, because he obviously felt I was his enemy to begin with!! Keep your friends close,... Your enemies closer. Get it yet??? That is how it must have been for him regarding me. :-(
So call me what you will. It not matters anymore. But to him, it will matter very much. I promise!
I demand payback!! How that comes is up to him!! Then I will go my own way!
I understand if you do not write back. After all, he is the GOD to follow... right? :-/
I still would love to know more about YOUR research. Maybe we would have gotten along better in our coversations so that we understand each other with respect for each of our views?! I am a visionary... Not a DICK!
Thanks for replying. Sorry so long a reply to ya.
MARS REVEALER
Meangreen... Yo!
No problemo Bro! I hope ya sees what I do? ;-)
MR
Man that was a long read MR but it helped me to understand this situation much better. You added a few important facts that fit right into the puzzle. I am convinced now that my first impression was correct but I got a few details wrong.
Quote MR:
"By destroying my life & trying to destroy my family? By trying to have me committed? By smear campaigning me? By banning me from Enterprise as if a person with shame when he is only trying to prevent his shame from being seen??"
When I read that I thought "BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I know you are probably going to disagree with me but hear me out. Lets consider the facts.
Hoagland was set up to be in charge of a science Museum when he was 19 years old.....fact
Shortly after he found himself with Walter Cronkite on National TV........fact
His Co-author Mike Bara always says on his blog that he works for the "military Industial Complex".......fact....hidden in plain site
How many people do you know that get the ladder to success greased like that? I don't know of anyone. There must have been big powers and connected people backing him.
The illuminati or the NWO or whoever you call the powers behind the scenes are always hidden. The people like Hoagland that get all the air time are front people for these powers. They have to do what they are told no matter what they think about it.
Now we get to the people that you think are the "good guys". The people that put the code to Mars in that TV program.
Quote MR:
"Why would the creators themselves want to provide me with information that I admit was used & helped me be able to solidify what I was seeing? It even brought me to brighter LIGHT in understanding this code! To see it better even. Now, if they are the enemy, why would they give me such a powerful tool or weapon that would help me build this structure, this ARTIFACT! Now Look at it like this, why would these guys from the show come on & tell us truths, & yet at the same time many think Hoagland is innocent??"
Ah.....why indeed? I'm guessing you do not get into studying the illuminati. The answer to your question is basic Illuminati !01 study.
The Universal law or the law of the creator that overrides everything is "free will". That is why satan or any evil entity can never do anything unless they reveal it.
The "rules" that TPTB/Illuminati/Satanists have to play by is that they have to somehow reveal their plans. Hidden in plain sight, as it were. I think it was the late Bill Cooper who likened it to how blueprints are laid out for the public to see before a building is built. LETTING THE MASSES KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. If its their free will to ignore the warning than so be it.
So in order for them to do their evil they have to reveal it somehow. Normally it is done in Hollywood in the movies but its also common to do it on TV. Its to their benefit that someone figures it out but that no one believes them. So whoever figures it out has to be discredited, bashed and ruined.
Hoagland had no choice. He had to do the TV show knowing he would have to destroy whoever figured the code out. Never in a million years did he figure his good friend MR would be that person. But to his horror that is exactly what happened. Hoagland knew damn well what that meant and did everything in his power to talk you out of going any deeper with your research but you would have none of it, knowing how important it was. There was nothing else he could do, without sacrificing himself. There is no way he could come right out and tell you what kind of danger you were getting into.
Quote MR:
"But anything I can use or take as advantage to use to be able to pursue him & culminate to what is gonna happen, I am using & will use all I can to make him suffer, as he did to me & mine! ESPECIALLY.... THIS CODE!!!"
That is exactly what the people that put that code in the show want you to do to prove that you are a stalker....that you have flipped out.....that you are unstable....that you are dangerous and nothing you say can be believed....especially what you say about the "code". Why would you do exactly what they want you to do? I'm guessing Hoagland is just their front man and is expendable. You have already done what they needed done. You fullfilled their commitment to the Universal laws of free will and the code is out there but no one sees it except you....the guy they hope self destructs. Just what they wanted.....all according to plan.
You are from New York? Time to act like it........get your head together and quit letting them pull your strings like a puppet.....if they can do it to a street smart New Yorker then the rest of us have no hope.
Buzz Aldrin says there is a Monolith on Mar's moon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIXvpjnRws
MR - Thanks for the video "FacesOfMars9 ShadowsOfThePast" - I see the connection. The side by side comp shows this. ;-)
Anonymous - why indeed? How would/could you know the illz so WELL?
Anonymous. Hello.
Yes a long read indeed.
ANONYMOUS said:...
"Hoagland was set up to be in charge of a science Museum when he was 19 years old.....fact
Shortly after he found himself with Walter Cronkite on National TV........fact
His Co-author Mike Bara always says on his blog that he works for the "military Industial Complex".......fact....hidden in plain site."
MARS REVEALER:
Well, great for him! Again, I do not give a shit! At least he had a life. As for Bara, I also suspected him being something ELSE as I have heard him say that also. But as long as he not pissed on my leg, & did not tread on me, whateva. Ya know? He was not tween me & Hoagland's relationship. I have had him on the MR Show a few times in the past as well.
You said...
"How many people do you know that get the ladder to success greased like that? I don't know of anyone. There must have been big powers and connected people backing him."
MARS REVEALER:
Obviously Anonymous. It would have been nice if it was because people believed in their integrity, vision, or their research alone. But what is that worth anymore right?? But yes, it is easy to conceive agenda driven folk being responsible for those things.
ANONYMOUS said:
"The illuminati or the NWO or whoever you call the powers behind the scenes are always hidden. The people like Hoagland that get all the air time are front people for these powers. They have to do what they are told no matter what they think about it."
MARS REVEALER:
oK. That is something I have been hearing for some time now, that he is a FRONT BOY. For what?? Maybe what you said. I am trying to figure out where your trying to take me with all this. But I am following.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Now we get to the people that you think are the "good guys". The people that put the code to Mars in that TV program."
MARS REVEALER:
I think they are the good guys ay? Hmmmm. The People that put that code to Mars in that Ufo Diaries program, I think are the good guys? I have not yet determined such. I admit I was hoping. ;-) But I am convinced information is being transmitted, as it were. As it is they it seems, who seem to be doing most of the talking!
However, again I will state that this code implies NOT Just people, were behind designing & creating this code. But actual MARTIANS! The other side of the coin seems to be secret Intelligence from Earth. I have no reason to discount either side, as it is they who again, it seems is doing the talking in many instances of FACES, or FACETS of understanding. In the latest New MR Show 'PAINTING' I am doing, of Hoagland's Moon Mars Connection back from 94, (I caall A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM REVISITED) this is also kinda confirming of what I see as Martians & Secret Intelligence being responsible! That show will have 8 video parts!!
As for Chuck Sellier & Lee Shackleford being the good guys?? Well, I will say that Their information has been rather incredible & VERY CONNECTING! Very HELPFUL also. Now again, I have to state, that in a court of law, if 2 witnesses appears for someone's HEARING, (Dick Hoagland's & The FACES OF MARS) & they testify with things to say about him that implicates & outright suggest so much against him, & he fails to appear to rebutt those witnesses?? Ummmm, what then happens?? In a court of law, to whom does the weight of evidence support? Hoagland?? Or the 2 witnesses???? Especially if WE THE PEOPLE, ARE THE JURY?! They also said they scripted the words themselves. Chuck was mastermind, as Shackleford stated that Chuck knows what he is doing, & is into making things with stuffs to be seen behind the surface of the things we can see. To make us all wonder! He's always enjoyed doing things like that he said!
cont...
I will also mention that Chuck has helped me & my family in ways I will NOT mention of here, & he knows how I feel. As a matter of fact, he was pissed off because Hoagland broke the deal. Hoagland lied to him as well, regarding my JOB & what hoagland was going to do regards to me & the MR Show!
I will just say it seemed clear that Chuck did not want me falling! HE CARED!! I will only say that much! He actually is an awesome guy! This all is so fucking weird!!!! NONE OF THIS SHOULD HAVE EVEN HAPPENED OR BE HAPPENING!!
Hoagland tried the same aspect angle your trying to come from I think. Again, like him, it seems the Blame is being thrown to the creators, yet they have appeared & testified as it were! As weird as all that shit is I admit, it nonetheless is a form of testimony! Who can deny their words as truth? Who can say they are the liars??? Who indeed??? But that DICK Hoagland himself to rebutt! As he was the one addressed & implicated, & finger pointed by them, by this code, & other weird twilight zone shit on the net that seems to imply much more to this than a mere video documentary! Plus, add to the perponderance of evidence, to Dick Hoagland himself now in what can be implicated as added evidence that I stumbled across something that was meant to UN-MAN HIM!! TO DIS-COVER HIM!!! As an Operative, working for & in support of (as a Buttress...I know kinda funny, but LOOK IT UP!!) for the larger group/structure, called OUR OWN... OR OUR TEAM!
So in essence, the creators who testified already, are thus implicated at as being OUR TEAM! As Chuck told me Hoagland worked for him for many years! Not to mention the Masonic imprints to Chuck's words to me, that then, I had no idea of. For instance, Chuck said his day always begins at 3:30 in the morning, & that is when, & AT the exact time he was speaking to me then. Literally, & in code! This was coded also in things he said to me.
He was talking to me in my understanding now, that I think I can describe, was in another language of being called 33?! He even said 3 reasons why it IS POSSIBLE, THAT IT DOES NOT SOUND A LITTLE NUTS, THAT A CODE EXISTS is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE!!! One of which by the way, IMPLICATED SOMETHING SENT DOWN THROUGH.... TIME!!! ON PURPOSE!!! Something we needed to know!! That fit on the head with my findings & theory that TIME is a major player in this THING created! Plus no coincidence with me finding it!
I am telling you this because there is much to this all I have yet to put together! The investigation has not ended per say, it is stalled in many ways because of what has been done to me & what is being done to me! That is why also this fight RAGES ON! Let us not forget that now!!
cont..
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Quote MR:
"Why would the creators themselves want to provide me with information that I admit was used & helped me be able to solidify what I was seeing? It even brought me to brighter LIGHT in understanding this code! To see it better even. Now, if they are the enemy, why would they give me such a powerful tool or weapon that would help me build this structure, this ARTIFACT! Now Look at it like this, why would these guys from the show come on & tell us truths, & yet at the same time many think Hoagland is innocent??"
Ah.....why indeed? I'm guessing you do not get into studying the illuminati. The answer to your question is basic Illuminati !01 study."
MARS REVEALER:
As far as I can tell, from me being the principal Investigator into this (I think I can claim,...), that from that point of view, & as one being a bit of a detective in this CASE, as well as part of the Jury hearing this case, as well as a VICTIM because of this CASE, I have to assume no fault of the Creators per say! On behalf of Hoagland appearing or not I mean, & what was stated by them, that Hoagland did not want anyone to see or know about his connection to them, these images, & deliberately lied & plotted to hurt me. Hoagland was more than welcomed to appear with us together. You should have heard what Lee Shackleford stated by now.
To them it is clear as well as described & attributed in this code, that Hoagland is a monkey wrench in some gears that are supposed to be turning. For good or for bad is still really to be determined. I am sure both sides have their story. More study is needed of that hypothesis to some extent! In my opinion, he was supposed to address these images & be seen in connection to them & with them way back when, & HE DID NOT WISH TO! To me, it seems he is still being asked to connect himself to this all in the future, since he did not wish to in the past?!
Now, I am to assume, that this is HIS TEAM,.. being a MEMBER OF... 'OUR OWN, OUR TEAM'! That it is they who are doing the talking. As Secret Intelligence, & being even as THE MARTIANS?? Again, that new show I am doing kinda explains & connects that! ;-) Therfore when Hoagland on the surface of Ufo Diaries says "AND SOMEDAY, WE MAY DISCOVER, THAT WE.... WERE THE MARTIANS AFTER ALL???!!!" Then he says... "AND NOW, WE ARE RE-DISCOVERING 'OUR' HERITAGE, OF WHAT WE ONCE WERE?!" Ha ha ha.
To me, this is obvious of what he is alluding to. But as I learned, around every FACE, there is a FACET! Of which some of is still in OPERATION! Ay Super Hoagy?
Let me clarify a bit more on how I see this because of what we are to assume. These images as I am to assume, were also LAW! An OLD LAW! Of secrecy! These images being seen represent a dawn of a new day! That is why it is encoded on the Cydonia... SUN-SET!! or sun-rise determining what facet you wish to attribute. The sun set can represent the NIGHT, or the darkness of the world they once lived in?!
Follow me here a minute please. Again, being seen now, as a sun-rise, for dawn of a new day, whereas these old laws, being connected to these images, are of the darkness & now, being shown as NEW LAWS?? Connecting these images to a new world? To the Earth??!! The dawn of a new day would then indeed be upon us all as the MARTIAN REVELATION. Wouldn't it? ;-)
So in essence, these new laws over ride & make obsolete the old laws that once attributed for them. Thus, connections to them, are no longer shielded from them as well, as also being considered as OLD LAWS??
Now in a court of law, again, reflecting back upon Chuck Sellier's words, of who they got these images from, or in the least, placed direct connection to them, WAS that Dick Hoagland!!! Therfore, I think a facet to see here is that we are being told, as well as hOAGLAND, that he being apart of the OLD LAWS, ARE NOW... OBSOLETE??? No longer shielded??? No protective domes overhead anymore of that Moon Of Mars ay??!! :-/
cont..
So. I am seeing much deeply into these things. But it is clear to me at least, in this code, someone really wants him to say "YES, THOSE ARE OURS!! YES,... I AM A MEMBER OF 'OUR TEAM'!!! YES... I AM A... BUTTRESS!!! I AM THE BIG DICK HEAD OF MARS! I AM THE AMERICAN AUTHORITY WHO IS SABOTAGING EFFORTS TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH! YES,... I SAY TO STOP INVESTIGATING FUTHER INTO MYSTERIOUS PICTURES! YES... I DO SAY THEY ARE EVIDENCE OF INTELLIGENT LIFE!!! OF WHICH I AM NOW REDISCOVERING MY HERITAGE... OF WHAT... WE.... ONCE.... WERE!!!!!
"YES, YOU HAVE DISCOVERED CORRECTLY! WE WERE THE MARTIANS TO THIS CODE!! THE UNKNOWN INTELLIGENT RACE ON MARS,... WHERE SURELY.... NO INTELLIGENT LIFE COULD SURVIVE THERE???!!! TAAAA DAAAAAAA!!!!!
Again Anonymous, but frankly the Illuminati whatever you said it was or is,... (how do you KNOW the Illuminati are responsible for this code or vid?) They Kinda ILLUMINED THE SCENE to tell us something we needed to know. I know one thing, I sure as fuck needed to know, as I was Hoagland's VICTIM!!! Now to me, it would have been to my disadvantage to not know more about him. Or about what he did. IT provided me with that info. My issue I have is NOT the bitch fight goin on, though it OBVIOUSLY BOTHERS ME, it is the CODE! The fact that something is happening because of this THING, that it is something at all is hard to imagine. But experiencing this 1st hand & seeing it as a coded message in TIME, that morphs now mind you! Hard to explain. I believe something called A LOOKING GLASS??,... or something or other was used in creating this THING!? Some form or type of ability to see through time, or to use time to manipulate circumstances. Maybe on posssible futures or outcomes etc. The power of GOD stuffs I am talking about here!
Again, it is NO coincidence at all I am certain, that I was the one to see & deal with this. To what extent or to what means this all?? I know not & will not say more of my feelings on that. As it is really still to be determined. BUT I HAVE A FUCKING MONKEY WRENCH IN THIS MACHINE NOW where by coincidence & TIMING, All leads point strait at Super Hoagy there! Remember, I am going at this more as an investigator. I followed the data, I followed & used my leads to build this case, sorry to say is against him. But I feel that so much more is to be seen & continue on once this PLUG is pulled from the pipes of flow of information we are to have from this THING!!!
THAT IS MY POINT!! THEIRS AS WELL IT SEEMS!?
Illuminati 101 I cannot say nor am I sure I wanna know. I am a SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHER! That is part of MY VISION of space for our country & even the world. It aint my fault I CAUGHT THIS BALL! It aint my fault I defy any & all who wishes me ill & harm because of my search for the truth! This is NOT just about ME! Though obviously anonymous, I have to admit & accept, that a KEEN EYE is watching me also! Like what can I do?? Who am I?
I did not create this THING or place it's images up. No.. this was surely all meant to be seen & studied! No doubts in my mind about that at all!!!
I am only trying to piece together a case that has been building since the investigation began. Instead of getting results positive for us by getting our hands & links to these actual images to the PUBLIC these new laws are supposed to go to,... Instead a monkey wrench... stands in the way!
That is NOT my fault! Is it my fault I chose BALLS over fear of harm or suffering because I have to be true to myself & stick through this investigation??? Then Guilty as charged that you would think that a wrong thing to do, for a man to stand up for what he beleives is right!!
Why was I put in this fight? Why ME?? WHO AM I?? I am no super hoagy nor do I wanna be a dick head buttress he obviously is 'FITTED' for to be. For good or bad, I must face this to the end. My purpose was not to dis-cover him or anybody. Things are happening as I believed they were programmed to?! I am seriously telling you all now & again, this THING is something to be studied! TIME is a part of this mystery here. Are the Masons Illuminati?? because to me it is obvious, their connection by Sellier, made it obvious they have this TIME angle down enough to do what he alluded to about them & of something we needed to know. In the future!
I aint looking to fight with the world or it's powers. I just want what my investigation brought me here for. These faces of Mars images, or more would be awesome. I want answers, I want payback for what happened to me, so I can continue to live & bring my potential to where hopefully where it is destined to be. Without some buttress stickin it to me in me bottom! I will surely be better ORIENTED this time! I think I will stick to Mars study.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"The Universal law or the law of the creator that overrides everything is "free will". That is why satan or any evil entity can never do anything unless they reveal it."
MARS REVEALER:
No. Free will does NOT over ride the creator!!! It is his will if I succeed or not! When talking about Satan or Jehovah where this is concerned, I put faith in Jehovah & hope he would will it that I succeed through what has been given me. I admit it is spooky shit!!! But it is still mine to deal with. It also at the same time is amazing!! I am the investigator into this. I kinda feel like the guy in Interview with The Vampire, doing the interview with that Vampire!
But I agree, FreeWill puts us on the paths we are on. I had help to be on this path is obvious & beyond my control. It was meant to be if that term can apply here. That is how I feel. I definitely aint proud of it!!!
From what I can see, I hope there is something to be proud for in this case & investigation. But how do we know unless we take this ride???
How did columbus & Vikings & others journey to new lands if fear of their boat sinking would stall them?? What would that free will have chanced or advanced?? Especially if it never happened because of that fear? Chuck Sellier said something very important to me I feel he was sincere with. I HAVE TO HAVE FAITH!!! FAITH REALLY MATTERS!!!"
Being THE CREATOR of This code, & UFO DIARIES, or one of them anyway, I take his words very seriously! So I choose.. to have FAITH!!!! Not fear!
cont..
Have Balls!! Not Raisons or lips! Ya see I am like those old Vikings. Journeying across new frontiers unheard of before to the general sheeple! Entered the Twolight Zone & am now on my free will in pursuit to a dream! A vision! One that includes or included me having to deal with this THING! Is it Jehovah?? or is it Satan?? Who gave me this to deal with??
If I am a type of Job, it fits some, but I fall far short of the faith he had he needed to survive. Me being tested I am already sure I have failed. This is beyond me in terms of this code's construction & it's TIME influences that free will or not, something may not be free will after all!!! There Hoagland's John Connor commentings to me I feel comes in or fits somehow.
Satan I will also say FREELY, is NOT of TRUTH! Though an angel of LIGHT, his is Lies & deception that says free will is what God does not want you to have! It was his 1st Lie that one which got much mess started. So that story goes. Truth no matter what it is, attributes to Christ. Right? The way, the Truth, The Life etc. ;-) Ultimately if satan's little paws are attributed behind this, make no mistake, someone more powerful is in control! Especially for those whom are HIS! I have FAITH IN THAT!! If this is what it all is (I hope not, why cant we just get the fuckin data???) then I think & feel that FAITH is all I can hope on to help me through all this & to help me succeed to get this truth!
Unless you attribute Hoagland as being the devil??? ha ha ha ha ha. because the THING is being revealed & he used lies & deceptions to try to avoid this being investigated. Then the question remains again, WHY????
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"The "rules" that TPTB/Illuminati/Satanists have to play by is that they have to somehow reveal their plans. Hidden in plain sight, as it were. I think it was the late Bill Cooper who likened it to how blueprints are laid out for the public to see before a building is built. LETTING THE MASSES KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. If its their free will to ignore the warning than so be it."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmmm. Then they are telling us in code & on the surface from the very begginning of Ufo Diaries: Cydonia, that THE PLANET MARS, IS NEXT.... TO OUR OWN!!!
Seems there it implies something intentional or that is a plan?! This code is attributed even as being a set of blue prints in some ways. Or a map, or a computer program with many files to be accessed & opened!
But Satan does not reveal. He lies. Decieves, is not of truth. So how can anyone look to his revelations as something to follow as being truth?? Letting the masses know what is going to happen next ay?? Then I am to assume he intends on DESTROYING THIS PLANET! Why? In the code again, & again on the surface of Ufo Diaries, watch what is shown carefully as this is said:
"& IF IT IS WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE,... WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH EARTH?"
It is there in the fast moving scenes we get an answer, if I FACE IT with the understanding your coming from, that I can easily attribute for that there! Does that make it so?? I not know. Not yet I admit. Not till I am in clear lingo knowledge & understanding so that I can be certain of the forecast I seemed to glean from that statement way back when.
I AM NOT IGNORING THE WARNING!! Or was it a warning for me? Because as I see it, I am being encouraged it seems in this code. Not warned to not investigate! I have to study this more & learn more for me to grasp the full intents & purposes of this coded information & communication, & prediction machine!
cont..
But what can I do?? Unless & until I get past the PLUG IN THIS PIPE NOW?? THAT DICK HOAGLAND!! TIME is being PLUGGED BY HIM & HIS ACTIONS IS APPARENTLY RIGHT ON THE MONEY in regard to this code where he is attributed & finger pointed. As if someone wants him to see HEY, WE SEE YOU THERE YA BUTTRESS! WE KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING! WE KNOW WHAT YOU DID!! TIME TO TELL ALL WHO WE ARE & WHO & WHAT YOUR APART OF,.... OUR TEAM!!!!!
That is my impressions! Am I wrong? Is it my FREE WILL THAT ALLOWED THIS TO BE ENCODED?? I did not create this!
If this is a warning to KILL ME, JOHN CONNOR as it were,... Then make the move!! Because in time, is where I will have that victory some are trying to prevent!! Whatever that is... again. :-/
What can I say?? Your trying to give me the heeby jeebies Anonymous. I am beyond that now & my free will is to continue & fight need be any enemies I am supposed to fight & destroy need be. I will also do that with FAITH, because every person can make a difference. Jehovah made a people of difference makers!! I have faith in that & in him, & in him he sent that I may live!! FAITH REALLY MATTERS!!!!
My free will is made up! I shall never bow before any satanist scum as I know where they are gonna end up! So what now???
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"So in order for them to do their evil they have to reveal it somehow. Normally it is done in Hollywood in the movies but its also common to do it on TV. Its to their benefit that someone figures it out but that no one believes them. So whoever figures it out has to be discredited, bashed and ruined."
MARS REVEALER:
That sounds plausible in a way, but I still do not know all the intents & purposes or what the code fully has to offer & say! That what you say not adds up or makes much sense to me. But I am a primative after all. Right? But are you close or apart of these guys that you know what this is?? Cause I am still wanting to learn some things.
You sound sure in sounding like how things would be done. But I am attesting to... FAITH.... &... WHAT IF!!! To give us a chance. A Fighting Chance. GROW SOME NUTS!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"Hoagland had no choice. He had to do the TV show knowing he would have to destroy whoever figured the code out. Never in a million years did he figure his good friend MR would be that person. But to his horror that is exactly what happened."
MARS REVEALER:
It seems as if he had no choice, because he not even wishes to hint at that video or it's Faces or to those behind the program. It is obvious! He had to do that TV show,... But he left such Big Holes in that script, because for whatever reasons, he would not say what was scripted for him, so that they then had to invent a charectar who's guessing! Guess who that attributes here? :-/
More spooky shit! But my fault that exists??? NO!
cont..
Well, only goes to show he underestimated me? or is that why he for many years was close to me?? maybe he knew who I was & he already knew what he wanted to do to me or with me, long before I came in touch of this code?!? Maybe in the past, he was warned about me for some reason, & I showed him that possibility in my very existance as being that one he was warned about? I mean come on... John Connor again! I have to be serious! In all Facets!! I am convinced some type of war is going on here & I feel as if I am in the middle of it for some reason!THAT AINT MY FAULT!!
But I do have my issues with Super Hoagy, spooks or no spooks involved, I want payback from him! I want answers, I want the truth & I want these Pictures! Because I can swear they are being attributed as NEW LAWS THAT WE THE PEOPLE... ARE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE!! Unless Hoagland openly answers me about that issue stating otherwise & WHY???
Again, all this shit now for 3 years, is all because HE DID NOT WISH TO APPEAR OR BE SEEN IN CONNECTION TO ANY OF THIS OR TO THESE IMAGES, seen in a video he himself was in! :-/ IT AINT MY FAULT!!
That would be a horror, (if that is, in fact how it was as you describe) & I DO FEEL FOR HIM ON THAT POINT! HE KNOWS HOW I FEEL!!!! But I cannot Puss down neither to him.... especially when my family were set up & hurt by him, & suffering from the mess he put us in! How about OUR HORROR? Because of this, because of him! Like he is more important that I should acknowledge over myself & my family??? Or my work???? Sheeeeet!
NONYMOUS SAID...:
"Hoagland knew damn well what that meant and did everything in his power to talk you out of going any deeper with your research but you would have none of it, knowing how important it was. There was nothing else he could do, without sacrificing himself. There is no way he could come right out and tell you what kind of danger you were getting into."
MARS REVEALER:
Hoagland knew what what meant?? That I would be that person to catch it's ball in play? What does that mean? Again, he is doing what in what he did to me,... saving me??? He was the threat to me & my family!!! Bullshit if you think not!
What does that mean that I caught that ball? I wanna know those answers 1st! Would that mean dis-covering his operativeness?? He is worried about himself being seen to all his fans as someone playing them?? I should feel sorry for that??? So that meant he had to stop me?? Because his world would be ruined??? Yet was & is ok to ruin mine ay?? Sorry if I do not feel that sympathetic under these conditions. Because they were conditioned! It did not need to be. Unless he explains otherwise?!
I do feel & see this Mars research & this UFO Diaries Mars video as important! The danger I was getting into is it seems danger from HIM! Your explaining it as if I should understand & be ok with him on that??! Am I wrong here? He could have come out & spoken to me. Remember, I was like his SON!! Him like a dad in a weird way!! I respected him & loved him, & still feel love for that buttress. But that aint gonna stop me from kickin that Buttress where it counts! Because what he really feels & thinks of me, & what he did to us! He could have trusted me! HIS FREE WILL CHOSEN NOT TO!!! His actions are also as important to causes here of blame. NOT JUST MINE!!!
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So instead of himself being sacrificed, because it was his to face, he decided to make me sacrificed instead?! Pulled an innocent in front of him to be hit instead of him? How honorable does he appear for doing that as well?? Some serious Mars researcher!!! Living a lie & playing a fiddle of deception to willing & wanting sheeple who think they are getting the truth! I am NOT of that fold. Not anymore! My path is there where it is now regardless what I choose. I HAVE TO HAVE FAITH!! DESTINY OR FATE... I am on it's path with something to do. I have to have Faith & HOPE that whatever that is, it will be for the good of all, & to make a difference to where things like this, are not a problem anymore. Because it is bullshit to go through this, all over images of reality upon another planet. That some want kept secret & others is apparent, wants public! That aint my problem. I did not create this. I will also not sit back & not fight for my rights, nor allow what has happened to me & mine, without getting some type of payback to fix things!!! Or die trying!!!! Because all of YOU... ARE AFFECTED BY THIS BUTTRESS AS WELL IF HE IS THE DEVIL HERE!! How about lookin at it like that?????!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Quote MR:
"But anything I can use or take as advantage to use to be able to pursue him & culminate to what is gonna happen, I am using & will use all I can to make him suffer, as he did to me & mine! ESPECIALLY.... THIS CODE!!!"
That is exactly what the people that put that code in the show want you to do to prove that you are a stalker....that you have flipped out.....that you are unstable....that you are dangerous and nothing you say can be believed....especially what you say about the "code"."
MARS REVEALER:
Is it now Anonymous??? I am stalking now ay? ha ha ha. He also a couple months ago by phone told me I was a teorrorist & he was gonna call Homeland security on me. I said for what??? Fucking me over for images & people he not wants known about that have spoken things about him, & a video that he himself was in?? That he not wishes anyone to address?? That makes me a terrorist! ha ha ha! That he is apart of an investigation & he is trying to stop it? That he is a public figure in these fields of research & wants to subdue any questions of a fucking video he himself was in?? Me wanting some answers & some mysterious pictures & him to fix things which is no secret that things went south when this investigation started!!!
That is fact & LOGGED AS EVIDENCE IN CASE SUCH charges or A COURT CASE ARISES FOR ME TO DEFEND & RAISE PETTITION TO SUBPENA OTHERS, FILE MOTIONS, & HAVE A COURT CALL TO EVIDENCE WITNESSES & ALL STRANGE THINGS THIS DOOR OPENS!!
Yeah... PLEASE COME AFTER ME AS A STALKER! I would LOVE to have this in open court where I can arise all issues & counter him & counter SUE HIM!!!
I am stalking him how,... By giving him back what he gave out?? For me painting mysterious pictures telling the truth SLANT??? Hey, in his own words, he does most the talking & implying! ha ha ha. Public data of his & his research embeded with a code lingo, that exposes him! Yet still hints & alludes to more to be seen under the surface of it all! Amazing Wizard Of Mars that Ol Koot! Again, that he did NOT TRUST ME to begin with to be honest with me so I can make the right decision. Now my right decision is a path the circumstances of my investigation, are leading me! Life or death. Life preferred! ;-)
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Hoagland even said this to me once... If One Cannot Be True To One self, How can Others count you as being TRUE? Or something like that he said. Either way, it spells out the same thing. For me,... as well as... FOR HIM!
I have not flipped out as I would have evidence to present that is consistent to my case & my investigation. Especially in terms of having those who made such statements already that is on the record & he yet has to rebutt! It aint my fault other sheeple are not seeing it. YET! remember, I am not done yet! It aint over till it's over!!! I sure am dangerous to him in regard to secrets he not wants no one to see or know about him, or these images, or his connections to them, being of INTELLIGENCE!
That is not my fault!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
" Why would you do exactly what they want you to do? I'm guessing Hoagland is just their front man and is expendable. You have already done what they needed done. You fullfilled their commitment to the Universal laws of free will and the code is out there but no one sees it except you....the guy they hope self destructs. Just what they wanted.....all according to plan."
MARS REVEALER:
How do I know I am doing what they want me to do?? I know that is what you want me to think & I am hearing you on what your saying. But as I said, THIS IS AN UNKNOWN RACE... OF INTELLIGENT BEINGS!! To me, I am in a race! I am sure being tested in ways. I do not know how, but I feel that. I do not think I am fairing well if a test this is of me. But I am staying in this RACE as it is a race unlike any other I could have ever imagined!! iT DEALS ALSO WITH OUR FUTURE!! A SPACE RACE!! I can go on.. But I am crazy remember?? :-/
I aint the dumbest but surely not the most intelligent being here on Earth, but I am not stupid neither! I see where your going but have you seen where I been??? Think about that some. As I have.....
It is obvious maybe a diabolical reason can be behind my push for this truth as you suggest. But again, am I supposed to Puss out in light, or dark rather,.. as that appears as possible?? IT AINT MY FAULT THIS IS GOING ON! I CHOOSE TO FIGHT! GROW SOME NUTS!!!!
Especially.. if we are dealing with... an enemy!?! But I am curious what makes you think I already done what they needed done? Cause to me... being as I believe an ADDED ELEMENT UNTO THIS THING, I also can steer where it goes?? Being an element unto this, allows me some freedoms of what I can do with this. I think it is supposed to be this way! This aint ALL ABOUT HOAGLAND & MYSELF!! To me, that may be the distraction! But one must live out & experience?! Anyway, this is about something trying to be given unto us all. A message. From actual Martians on one side, & by secret Intelligence on the other. The Masonic connection is also a piece to this puzzle again, by the creators own words! Crazy am I? With such supporting evidence of testimony???!!!
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You say again, I am the only to see this code as it were? That was the Illuminati's intent only? Just to reveal or expose..or UN-MAN, that Dick Hoagland?? Like that was all this code is about?? NO WAY!! That is why this PLUG MUST BE PULLED SOON! So I can get to those important parts where this monkey wrench aint slowing me up!!! Again, I stress this is about something also to do with TIME!!! Because so much information is inside, of which Hoagland is but a gateway in as it were. Oh Hmmmm. Gatekeeper ya said right? Coincidence.
I also have not assumed yet what it can be of which if at all, I am being steered by anyone to make me believe or make me do what or what not. Yet!
You say that could be happening or can happen obviously. So maybe. But as of yet, I do not know enough to say one way or the other. Remember, if I am John Connor, he had people out there lookin out for him he did not know as well as those that he did know! Just the same for those against him to kill him.
So, if I am the enemy as a threat to something which Hoagland called me & made me believe I was John Connor, all I can say is we will see who prevails! Because as I said, no mattter what... This is mine to deal with. I would never be safe then. No matter what I choose. Stop or go. This is MY FIGHT NOW! No matter where it leads, or to whom!
If all I did so far was all I was supposed to do, then by all means,... what did I do?? I aint dead yet. I do not feel or see things as being OVER, but only CONTINUING TO ESCALATE!! ;-)
Of which yes, I am picking that fight! because I can lose battles, but I also shall win them. It is the WAR THAT IS THE OUTCOME OF THIS of where this shall prevail, or fall!
Destruct or survive, at least I can say I FUCKING LIVED! Can you or those that wish me ill or harm, say the same??
No, I am not through by a long shot! This THING is special indeed & from something or someone that wants this to be found. This aint all about Super Hoagy or his Team I can easily see!
No one is telling me what to do per say. I do all by following the data, follow the leads, to decide if I am correct or not, or to use my free will to help me determine what I can do next to fight back with this CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY! That someone gave me, as a fighting chance maybe? To fix what had been broken???
Because someone wants this code & all it's hidden messages seen. They will NOT be hidden when I fully decipher this lingo! Truth or lies then, will be determined by the veracity of the info as to the viewer once they also are in understanding!
Cause is it coincidence also that Dick Hoagland, has not tried nor wishes to fix things tween us?
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But I see many excuses given as to why I should feel compassionate enough to submit to what he dealt us, & live in harmony as if it not happened when we are STILL SUFFERING???? No way!! He has to fix all that! he is in a Jam with his OWN TEAM, called OUR OWN, & they are fingering him out, as well as these faces of Mars images, & he not wants anyone to see it, let alone ask any questions about it. :-/
yet I am crazy ay? Yet I aint the one Pussin out neither! To Live or to Die, I am on this path. I walk with FAITH!!! I was NOT evil in my desire to bring this out & seek the answers! What was done to me was evil. Now I have a crashed UFO to use & backengineer & use it for my SPACE CRAFT & to use against my enemies, who wanted to use it against us & already is using it against us all! I fight for them as well!!! Because when they see, they will SEE THAT LIGHT! Then they will wanna also... FIGHT!!! THEY WILL BE THE RESISTANCE!!
I guess TIME will tell. But all according to plan as you say? I can only pray anonymous, that it is for Good.. & not evil. From Martians or solely secret Intelligence, I do this because of the hope of potential in good things to come. But reality is reality right? But how do we know either way, if we are too scared to walk that path to destiny???
The plan is yet to be seen & felt! In my opinion. But I have a plan, one of which victory & truth shall be it's fruit! If I have FAITH!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"You are from New York? Time to act like it........get your head together and quit letting them pull your strings like a puppet.....if they can do it to a street smart New Yorker then the rest of us have no hope."
MARS REVEALER:
yes I am, yet now your playin me? Time to act like it?? I already am, But keepin on him with pressure, because I am stalking my prey, as I am an animal, with the eye of the TIGER! The only one who pulled these strings is that Dick Hoagland!! HE WAS THE PUPPET MASTER for what now living Hell we are living in!!! HE NEEDS TO ADDRESS & FIX THIS!! Seems you need to be able to relate to the NY Experience from someone who lived it real! Cause there aint no way he is gonna stay gotten away with what he did! team or no team... Illuminati or Masons.. I do not give a shit! If anything they are telling me LOOK AT HIM! HE DID IT!!! I do not think if they are liars, that was a lie in which was told!!! AND SHOWN!!! Because it certainly is the TRUTH!
My beef is with Super Hoagy there! The rest of us have hope in what?? ME?? Well, if things go wrong if that is so important, then Look to Super Hoagy again there!!! :-/
Cause he made it much harder for me to FIGHT FOR YOUR HOPES & DREAMS!!! Let alone mine & my family's!!!!!
We need HELP in a serious way, but who gives a fuck??? Right? So to me, my enemy is clear enough that directly points to Hoagland & his lack of wantingness & willingness to address questions about these Faces of Mars images, UFO DIARIES, & those behind the program & not wished to rebutt what has been alleged against him by his own TEAM PLAYERS, to which this case's evidence already presented still stands firm against Hoagland's truth factor in this all.
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hell with the excuses, none care about me or mine! So no care goes into his problems. He just wants to stay on top looking like a God & someone who is to be worshipped & Loved for being such a great guy & truthful difference making individual on Planet Earth! Maybe a golden statue with his likeness & name on it. Which upon it should be written... 'I DIED FOR GEOMETRY'!
he wants me to stop pursuing this investigation to get answers & some Mysterious Pictures, all because it not makes life good for him??? GOOD!! He needs to fix what he broken!
I am getting my head together. Because from what this code also alludes to, there be a new head in town! It will NOT be like the Old DICK Head!!! That I promise! If I am to read deep into that, & if it be true,... I promise that is. ;-)
But I cannot get anything together until & unless he fixes things & I am able to have those chances to let all have HOPE as if all were hoping on me?! maybe they are. Again, this message in all it entails is much more than shown yet! As well is much more meaning than Me & Super Hoagy there!
I also am not perfect, nor am a super hero. I need help! I admit it & ask for help. Seems all on deaf ears! Right anonymous????
Thanks for replying, I guess we see things a little differently, but I appreciate your thoughts & care to address things. You apparently have insight. Wether or not to as I do or not, I only hope I can make things right in all this & get us all this message that was so important to give to us all in a twilight fucking zone reality special instead of being cool & up front with us all. But maybe this is for a bigger purpose that this must be gone through 1st? My mind is open & thinking all the time. I have a very active brain & cognitive pattern. Getting better anyway. I feel alive. The spooky cloak & dagger shit I can do without, but on we go through the yellow brick Road ridin the Majic Bus of The MARTIAN REVELATION!
Think of me as any will. Ingrate, scum bag, punk, stupid, whatevr. But ya will not be able to call me a PUSS where & when it came face to Face in dealing with this THING!! Can anyone reading this say the same???
GROW SOME NUTS & GROW OUR NUMBERS!! YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE!!
MARS REVEALER
MR, thanks for wour response. I think we are not on the same page here. You said:
As for Chuck Sellier & Lee Shackleford being the good guys??
I have no doubts that Chuck Sellier & Lee Shackleford are telling the truth about what they know. You have every right to trust them. What I am saying goes much higher than them. The people that control the corporation that owns the TV network makes a call to the CEO of the network. The CEO of the network then calls down the line and tells those two they want a program made and they are sending Hoagland down to fill them in as to what they want. They do as they are told. Hoagland shows up and dictates to them what he wants done. I'm sure Hoagland knew exactly what was to be done.
They wanted the code out there and the perfect scenerio would be that no one would figure it out. When you did figure parts of it out then they had a problem. The fix was to make sure no one listened to you.
What is my interest in this? You did not volunteer for this but you for better or worse have been "selected". You should feel honored. Your mission is the code. I also have my mission which has to do with MARS but is much different. I was not "selected". I for the lack of a better word "volunteered". Very few people ever follow their destiny and fullfill their purpose in life.
Back to my interest in this...I'm trying to get you to re-focus on the code. You are correct in that to figure out the rest of the code you have to deal with Hoagland. I just hope you can do it with a clear mind and not cloud your head with this intense revenge factor.
Not saying you do not have every right in the world to want revenge, its just that I think the code is much more important, not just for you and your family but for the rest of us also. . Of course I am not standing in your shoes and probably do not know the whole story....I understand that.
You are correct when you say this is about time. This has to be exposed before time runs out. The masses have to know what is on MARS but the planet is pure evil. It needs to be quarantined before certain DNA is brought back to earth. If it is brought back we will experience "Hell on Earth".
What is this about when you peel away all the BS? Immortality
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Anonymous. Thanks for replying.
But being as it may, I feel you may be playin with me regarding this all. To me, this is serious! I say this not to offend you. But to state that this discussion, as what appears it is turning out to be, appears inconsistent in some ways, though I seen the things you were saying. But to me, I really must assume that you are someone who is paying attention to this, in what I am trying to do & show, & really makes what you say great for SERIOUS DISCUSSION in the least!
Because it is being spoken about, as it should be! I appreciate that. Albeit I feel twists & turns in what you say, & you admit you have an agenda, but you say it aint Hoagland's agenda. That says much, yet so little.
Especially what has me in your replies to me, I am sorry for this, but you do appear to be more leaned to that DICK Hoagland. More UNDERSTANDING HIM, in HIS SITUATION, in THEORIZING what he is or did or whatnot, maybe in
compassion also a little?
Because I felt you seemed to be wanting me to follow & accept that of the things you were saying about him, as if to think I will calm or relent in my pursuiit of him?! Sorry, that was my impression. But please read me out.
It seemed more like you were saying it was or is a no win scenario for me. Spelling it out kinda I mean. I know you also gave other feelings of yours that you also stated, countered your defence of defending him. That you
were not doing so. I heard you there.
Yet spelling out scenarios of which implies knowledge or theories as you put it, about Hoagland being as what you described. A gateKeeper, a Front
Buttress Boy, someone the Powers That Be used & still uses it seems. :-/
Painting a picture in my mind that connects in some ways to this code info about HIM! Again, twilight zone shit! Of possibilities that can exist, & you put forth some good discussion on what those may be in fact/s! You obviously have put some thought into your... theories! Again, maybe with what I am doing you been following, or trying to... (sorry all) but maybe
that was enough that made your theories on the subject tune in some ay?
Better than fucking being told to stay tuned all the time ay?? ;-)
But I do value your input. Shows not only MYSELF, can picture, or paint in their minds, that Super Hoagy is more than Meets the EyeS! He is a fucking Transformer! Decept-a-con! Yup... sounds like him all right!
You do seem like a pretty serious guy in your replies to this smog of a blog. To be more than maybe just acting, to get a rise out of me, to make it appear that your serious, to play on my seriousness of this CASE & INVESTIGATION! But as I said, it seems your well thought out on some things to be mere ass playing to reply to this. Because as you can see, you not had to wait in any lines or anything to post in here. ;-)
You also gave good ideas of your theories about Mars, what is up there, & much more being alluded to that is up there etc. Great topics this discussion started. Great questions!
cont...
You also state that in your own research, you agree with super Hoagy there that we are an ancient space traveling race. Awesome. ;-) But I wish I can see or know more of your research leads you to that as well. Maybe? ;-)
Would it help if I say PLEASE? ;-)
You seem assured also that Hoaglands case for them being little green men or not, you favored not, you wanted him to answer how he came to that
conclusion. That their not I mean. Now I in turn spin that question to you as well? ;-)
Your research shows this? Just something to follow up incase anyone else reading this also wondered about that. ;-) Hoagland did not come to that conclusion by the Cydonia Face alone. You said that. ;-) Well, how did you?
You say your getting old, & seemingly are tired of waiting for Super Hoagy basically to shit or get off the pot regarding who was on 'MARS... IN THE PAST,... BEFORE THINGS WENT BAD'!
Implying you were, that POWERS controlling Super Hoagy there have etched in stone his agenda. Which may or may not be you implied, is the reason why basically he aint shittin or gettin off the pot neither for him to reveal what & what not. But you made it clear you were tired of waiting on him to do so.
Kinda implied as if you knew or know what that is? Because you arranged yourself to those Powers & Super Hoagland's agendas as NOT BEING YOUR AGENDA!!! Implying possibly that you have other ideas or plans (agenda),that can make something or someone shit that revelational stuffs wiothout the delay as it were, such as is being a factor here of being on THE POT??? ;-)
I know you say this that Hoaglands breaks were NOT Lucky breaks. He is apart of the Powers that Be. Doin their deeds, workin for them. Which obviously you must NOT agree with THEM, if you have a different agenda?! Just thinking out loud.
You imply maybe his agenda is to get people to waste their time with petty squabbles, mis-directing their focus away from the real important things.
Which you stated you did not know or care what those things are or were?!
Correct?
You then imply that if he is a GateKeeper, then nothing You or I can do would matter in what he does. Ok, why?? Because we are NOT OF HIS AGENDA? ;-) Or because our agenda is NOT strong enough to do anything about it???
Then it appears then your getting older to not see your agenda pan out? Is that what your implying how that will be? His power is supreme above yours?
Thus for me?? (No win scenario thang you painted for me) Your MoJo (research) is not as big as Super Hoagy's Mojo???
I do NOT believe for a minute that the varied things I am doing has no effect at all on him! So something is happening!! I not know exactly what,
but I can sense it. I also know I can wound! Bit by bit, piece by piece, the blows will eventually add up!
I also believe that still, this investigation is warrented, & needed, & there is enough to build a case upon! FOR ANY SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHER TO FOLLOW! Of the data gatehered already by me, & the confrimatory testimony as it were! That alone is enough without me involved, to make this demand investigation! From ANY SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHER!!!
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GROW SOME NUTS!!!
So I do not share the same emotion that NOTHING CAN BE DONE TO HIM!! To help him provide some answers!
You implied that Super Hoagy dropped the ball of his so called SERIOUS FACE OF MARS RESEARCH! Leaving you on Mars wondering where he went! Ha ha ha ha
I still find that funny as how I can see that. But I would think it was not funny in the past, where leaving us all now wondering also, why we also, in discussing this now, we are also left on Mars again, still without him! :-/
You implied maybe he is sucking up to mainstream because of his views so now he is pussin down, & maybe that is why he not shows anything? To not show what would flip mainstream upside down he would turn down??? To appease them? I think not! That agenda thing you mentioned he & his Super Powers may have comes to light a little.
You implied that Mainstream credibility is hand in hand with Super Hoagy wanting to talk about NAZI'S RUNNING NASA??? But Faces of Mars would not be better a legacy??? That intrigues me.
OR... That is his job, he NOT agrees with them of that agenda? So he wants to be more than what he really is in that charade he lives already, & do more than what was not meant for him? Like providing these Faces? That is
something I gleaned & added to your THEORIES, on the matter. Please forgive me, but hey, we are discussing possibilities after all. RIGHT?
Now if that is a factor or not, in this code, it does seem that someone is IRRITATED AT HIM! To come forth regarding these faces, & his knowledge of being A MEMBER OF 'OUR TEAM'! So that kind of hurts my added theory. But was still plausible to think of as a connection. Again, Twilight zone shit!
You note he dances around the controversial?? Shit, in my estimation, he is running outta the room from them!! But you imply he tailors his arguments to the sheeple of the mainstream academic community. To me, he aint even
doing that! He is deliberately witholding important information & imagery that takes this discussion all these years to a whole new level! of disclosure it would appear is the right word. Even though it is obviously clear to me, all the so called serious Mars research for all these years, have also been a cover job, a cover story. The LIE to appear as the truth.
With super Hoagy at the front of that line!
So yes, without HIM doing the talking about UFO Diaries, & The Faces of Mars Mysterious Pictures, it apppears as if, someone... had beaten him to it! Maybe in more ways than one! ;-)
Because this should NOT be occuring, let alone real. But when all other logical things not adds up, then the impossible is left to consider. Which obviously I have already considered. If the voice of his TEAM speaks through this code finger pointing him out to speak, & answer about these images, his connections to them & to Ufo Diaries & to those behind the Program, why is he remaining in silence?? Is not his TEAM the same AGENDA POWERS?? Because if you ask me, this is some powerful shit!!! WHY would he wanna withold?? Why cannot he show the images & tailor it to the sheeple??
Why won't he??
Is it because now, someone, beaten him to it??? Cut him off at the pass?
What happens if he were to still come out & discuss these images now??? I fantasize about that much! You can imagine! ;-)
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You imply me to move froward, telling me CYDONIA, was yesterdays news. yet I say it is today that it's news is being cast! Trying to be heard as well as seen!
You imply your open minded about this because your not involved in anyway.
That is fine for all else, but to me, hey, it is what you say. How can I tell or not?? Either way I appreciate the information & discussion you offer up for all to contemplate.
You seemed to agree with me that it seems many worship Hoagland. Follow him on his every word. Yet I say if that were true, many else would be with me under this veneer he always hints at & to is something more than what it appears to be on the surface. It really is fascinating & it's concept however. From an investigators point of view of course to appreciate this THING! But it is also HIS TEAM who are doing the talking here! Through that script as it were. The Geometry of The Baseline, which is the Intelligence Criterion! As he described in his STEINS DIAMOND article. ;-)
He wants to hog all the attention you spelled out well enough. ;-)
That is why I think he would want to show these images at some point. But it seems someone elses agenda met in time with his agenda, & it not matched?! Yet His Team it seems are demanding him to come forth. Is that my fault that is there? Not Bloody Likely!
Yoou imply that I should be grateful for what Super hoagy put us through, because he was & is apart of a masterpiece, which it seems he was supposed to also be a mouthpiece & even a handler of these faces of Mars images in that Ufo Diaries: Cydonia video! But he did NOT wish to be photographed in
connection to them. So he left the set. Making & leaving big holes in the script! That is why we are told on the surface of Ufo Diaries, that the surface of Mars (the video) we now know, is covered with Meteor craters!
Shackleford states "ALL THESE THINGS DR. HOAGLAND WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY"!
sO i THINK HIS team, WANTED TO MAKE SURE, THAT the JIST of what the final product had to say, would someday be found as an artifact on Mars in the future! Telling us that he did not take the work of himself & his colleagues seriously for up to 17 years, on the question of artifacts on Mars, which this document predicted someday, would be found! That is why we are told that MANY PEOPLE WOULD THINK THAT HIS CONSPIRACY THEORIES, MAKE HIM STARK RAVING MAD!!! Ha ha ha ha ha! It is kinda funny! IT IS ALSO
TRUE!!
You imply that Hoagland wants to get this information out, but the powers that be are watching him very closely. Which I suggested that they also then must be watching me! You implied he was & is the one who puts this code out in form. yet if that is true or was true, (though I think some of
that may be true) How is it his TEAM seems to have put a whoop dee doo in that code as well??? This raises the questions & stakes for the possibilities here. Because if this is correct, than I think the Powers that be are the ones saying this!! Telling us he is apart of their team!!!
THEY are the ones DIS-COVERING HIM! I am only dis-covering the message!
You imply he picks a fight with me for benefit of the people that control him. Yet aint that HIS TEAM?? Remember, who are the ones doing the talking in many FACES or FACETS of understanding!
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I do not see or think how that can be possible, as I think his TEAM already seen & knows what he did to me & know or KNEW what his agenda is & his actions regarding this case, as well as regards to me? For they shown me in this code, that made many connections to me personally & in my experience!
How can that be there, unless we consider the impossible?!
That is why It not makes sense to me & makes it sound as if Hoagland is the victim, other than MYSELF which no one appears to consider here. because I am a primitive I am sure ay?! You kinda painted him in a light that he is of the truth, but got caught in a snag, & he was trying to save himself by
picking a fight with me over it.... Does not fly! Again, he knows his TEAM are talking to him through this by now! ;-)
But I do think & believe in agreement with you when you said that he thinks I broke, or can break the code. That is what bothered him! I am certain that when he felt I was able to penetrate deep enough into this code, his mind was already made up & he was already in action in how he was gonna handle me. From telling me THIS HAS TO BE HANDLED ABSOLUTELY PRECISELY, to doing a show on Coast, to pushing it at Enterprise Homepage, that we will
get these images mailed to me, to all a sudden drop this Gary! get off this Train, This is Lies & Nonsense!
SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE!!
So they (the powers that be), are convinced & Hoagland is safe from their wrath??? That is what you implied. Again, in theory! But if that is true, then whose wrath is he facing from his TEAM in this code doing the talking??? he is being told you theorize not to say anything, His team demands him to come clean! See how this is inconsistent??
As a theory of course. If your theory is true of course.
You imply that I have the MARS HOLY GRAIL in the Palm of My Hands. (I still wanna know more about that)...
That I am smart enough to see this code, but not smart enough to figure out why Hoagland had to do what he did to us? As if I should or would excuse that as well? Especially when we are still SUFFERING & IN MAJOR NEED! But who gives a fuck right?? As long as Super Hoagy looks good, who gives a shit?! ME & MY FAMILY GIVE A SHIT!!! Holy grail or not, I want payback!!!
Which I already stated he can FIX! He knows what I want!!
You then state that you never met or spoken to the man. You mean the
BUTTRESS!!! Just to be clear who we mean here! ;-) But you also implied all you told me was your knowledge of him as a public figure. I hear you there as well. I am learning more about him all the time. Know your enemy as the
saying goes. He is the most attributable in this code so far, as being my enemy!
You implied your trying to be fair. Yet where & when it came to me & mine, it not felt fair!! Sorry if that bothers ya.
You also to be fair, not came at this as I was innocent neither. My crime was & is to seek this truth & demand answers & some fucking FACES OF MARS MYSTERIOUS PICTURES! Keep the evil & voo doo shit, keep the twilight zone crap... Gimme answers & these Images! Ya know??? To be fair! He not wanted to play fair! Maybe that is why his Team in a way, I can see this in this
light, that maybe they are appearing doing some speaking because they did not want to happen to me what he did to me & mine? A little hope & light
maybe in this time tunnel?? Because it says "AND WE KNOW THAT MARS (Mars Revealer) IS NOT CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING INTELLIGENT LIFE (my family?),... AS WE KNOW IT!!! yet despite all of this, when the image was 1st recorded, it was labeled head!!"
cont...
Does that mean my head on a platter?? Fuck, then why aint I dead already??
or what else can that HEAD stand for attributing to myself????
if what FACET I see during that statement is true, it is about me. yet I admit, there is another facet of Understanding also attributing to that statement. They KNOW I cannot support Intelligent Life... As They Know it!
It seems to me, they are telling us all I am NOT capable of Supporting That DICK HOAGLAND!! I cannot support him especially after what he did to me & my family!! Again, which we are still suffering!!!! Now with 3 deaths in my family that would not have occured if we were not forced to leave!! THEIR BLOOD IS ON HIS HANDS AS WELL!!! PAYBACK I DEMAND!! HOLY GRAIL OR NO!!!!
You imply there is no reason I should continue my grudge against him. It is more than that!! Trust me!! He did not trust me... that is why we are where we are at now! You implied I gotten the best of the deal. I disagreed of course, saying the shit end of the stick is no deal at all!!!
He is living comfortable. In AC, heat, food a plenty for him & his, he can drive to the fucking store!!!! He took all that from us! This deal as you say it is, helps NO ONE!!! Especially me or my family that he OWES PAYBACK!!!
you implied I should wipe the slate clean. I stated his shit, he squeezes the charmin 1st! He needs to fix & PAYBACK!!! Then I am open for peace!!!
He has to be DIPLOMATIC! To him, Diplomacy is a one way street... where he is the big dog on the street to call those shots or terms. Uh Uh!! Move Over Rover. Ya know the saying!!! ;-)
You Implied you have PLENTY OF TIME. But you said your getting old & tired of waiting??? This to me was inconsistent. But I respect your thoughts.
I like to add I only hope that me & my family can have time to live, rather than stay in what we were forced into because of that DICK Hoagland!!!
If you seen or know where & how we live now,... You would agree & easily see the need for my continued efforts to pay him back! Until he pays back!!
You then imply the powers that be, his handlers, his agenda like minds, are the Illuminati, & were the ones responsible for the reality me & my family are now in. yet again, if that is true, why are they doing the talking in this code to Super Hoagy, to come clean???
You then imply I think the guys that put the code are good guys. I did not assess that, but have more weight so far, to show that is true. But I am not closed minded to the possibilities here. Juss some things not adds up of what is already added up. When considering THEORIES of course. :-/
You more than imply but state how it is with the Illuminati/Satanist/Powers that Be, as if your in the KNOW already like what MeanGreen stated was the
ILLS?? HA HA HA.
BUT YOU DO paint interesting theories regarding the things they do especially when compared to what happened to me & mine. Plus Hoagland's position in that shit. All I can say is that after Super Hoagy, if an enemy I still Face,... What are the odds??? WHAT IF...???
cont..
You imply that I already done what they needed done. I like to know more info how you know this?? How can you know?? Does your RESEARCH show this?
When I can see the research? PLEASE?? ;-)
You imply I was in danger, that Super Hoagy could not just come out & let me know just how much danger I was in. Hmmmm. WHY WAS... I IN DANGER?? Am I still in Danger???? I wanna fight so may as well bring it on!! Cause as you
said, He was & still is... in DANGER!! He is fooling himself if he thinks he is not!
yet I still wonder, why would his TEAM warn me of this & of him?? If his
team are the powers that be, that can do this to him, why would they be providing me with this information?? About him, about themselves, showing us things that they have, that they wanted us to see??
That is why I believe & feel this is supposed to be seen. To be figured out & then the light will shine bright! I do not think all this effort went into this code & what not, to just never it to be seen. That does not make any sense to me at all! If that were the case, the video or the code would
never have come into existance to begin with! This was NOT meaning to be a dead end. I not know how I know that, but I feel that.
You imply that my continuing efforts is doing what THEY want me to do to my own ruin. Maybe so, but it not adds up again! Because 1st I have more than a code to go by. I have outside sources that connect to it! The creators
testimony as being one major chunk of that, & these OTHER videos, & OTHER Hoagland interviews, videos, etc has to offer. He speaks the lingo, the code follows as it were. Wether it is from many years ago, to this day! I still admit that is really interesting! It is one of the more important
issues I have as investigator I wanna know more about. But oh well. :-/
Anyway, you then imply that the rest of us are in HOPE of what I can do with this. That is an odd statement. WHY????? Cause no one else sees this code?? Or is there more??? Your comment seemed out of place & my senses are jumping.
So to address your last reply: (finally ay)
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"I think we are not on the same page here."
MARS REVEALER:
I agree, though maybe we are at the same time?? I know you see & hear what I'm saying! No matter what I'm seeing.... I aint dropping or quitting or letting go! So what page are we on again??
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"I have no doubts that Chuck Sellier & Lee Shackleford are telling the truth about what they know. You have every right to trust them."
MARS REVEALER:
One thing I am certain, they gave me information that only later, was I able to connect & use to fill some holes in my research. ;-) They told me the truth enough what I needed to know then. I am certain they did not tell me all they know. Nor did I get what I was hoping to from them. I also will say that Chuck has given me far more reasons to TRUST HIM, other than that DICK Hoagland. Yet,... Who am I???? Yet it was Chuck who cared for me & mine!!
It was Chuck Who was pissed that Hoagland did NOT live up to his part of THE DEAL, to have me working for him as Hoagland said to him I would be. He was pissed. Plus I was EMBARASSED!!! Now these guys as you say, being with agendas & shit??? Obviously anything is possible. But where merits count, It was Chuck Sellier again, that paid once again, for that DICK HOAGLAND'S antics! Or because of them. But when it came down to it,... It was genuine
care I feel, that he did what he did! he id NOT have to do anything at all!
To be honest, we still very much dire need his help. But I feel like an investment he made in me, & that is also why I am working hard to solve this. If he was or is my enemy as well, why did he not leave us to fall when we were in their palms of their hands??? Why am I saying all this??
All over because a question or comment about TRUST! Especially when there seems like no one is ever there long enough to be able to.
cont...
Fact is, I trust no one! I do not know who is friend or who is foe. Like you anonymous I admit I wonder. I like how you speak though. I can see your trying to help me see or understand, SOMETHING. Your obviously wanting to tell me something. Or you would not be here. Unless your playin.
As I said also, your great conversation & great convo maker of topics. I know,... But that Research of yours has me curious! ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"What I am saying goes much higher than them. The people that control the corporation that owns the TV network makes a call to the CEO of the network. The CEO of the network then calls down the line and tells those two they want a program made and they are sending Hoagland down to fill them in as to what they want. They do as they are told. Hoagland shows up and dictates to them what he wants done. I'm sure Hoagland knew exactly what was to be done."
MARS REVEALER:
Ok. Hmmmmm. The People, That CONTROL The CORPORATION, That Owns the TV network. In clearer english, (THE ILLUMINATI), that control The CORPORATION, That OWNS The TV Network. Hmmmmm.
The corporation you leave un-named. Could it be the Corporation of The OUR TEAM? Or OUR OWN? The Illuminati control the Corporation 'OUR TEAM', That
controls the TV Network! GRIZZLY ADMAS PRODUCTIONS??
In clearer english, this is what has to be sensed in your THEORETICAL input that is being said. Great discussion. Great Discussion! So long as we are
on the same page now? ;-)
So the ILLUMINATI, which obviously would be in control of Grizzly Adams Productions (to simplify. Richard did say once 'Gary, Let's Keep this SIMPLE!')
The Illuminati called down the line to Chuck Sellier who is CEO of Grizzly Adams Productions, the ILLUMINATI told Chuck & Lee Shackleford they were sending Super Hoagy down to them to be SUPER-FREINDS! In a Fortress of
Solitude, no less!! Chuck already told & confirmed for us was filmed in an Old Masonic Lodge in Salt Lake! So come on, look at the humor, & the irony here! Connections Most INTRIGUING!;-) ha ha ha!
But seriously, Anonymous, that is what your spelling out! By following the data. We can attribute what you say! To me that is amazing! From an investigator point of view. To me, it aint coincidence. Spooky, but it is
funny. So The SUPER FREINDS are told by THE ILLUMINATI, that they want a program made. Hmmmmm. Program can have many facets unto it. Read deeply into those words there!
Now that Super Hoagy & his Team of Super Friends in the Fortress of
Solitude, of The Illuminati's friends, the MASONS, they are ORDERED TO DO A PROGRAM! Upon which Super Hoagy Directs the team of Super Friends, in the Fortress of Solitude Of The Illuminati's Friends, THE MASONS!
Interesting!! VERY CONSITENT TO AN UNKNOWN MYSTERY TO SOLVE, In Chuck
Selliers own words, regards to the DIRECTOR!!! Unable to Name or photograph him, let alone mention about him ay?!
What did he say that got me like wee up just now Anonymous?? If you heard, & remember Sellier's words?? Regards to the director! Now apply that, to what he said about Richard Hoagland & The faces of Mars.
cont...
he said...
"THE FASCINATION WITH THE FACES OF MARS FOR ME & MY FASCINATION WITH
RICHARD HOAGLAND, WHO WAS 'THE BIG MOVER & SHAKER'.... IN ALL THAT!!"
NO FUCKING WAY!! ANOTHER FACE... OR FACET OF UNDERSTANDING TO APPLY in YOUR THEORETICAL posisbilty!! Interesting... coincidence??? or is this a series of BIZZARRE COINCIDENCES?? Ha ha ha!
Now think about this Anonymous. With what YOU just said helped me assess un-connected pieces I felt connected to each other. In regards to Hoagland, & what Chuck had to say about HIM< in more ways than ONE!
Ok. Lemme explain, this is fascinating!!!
Now, Hoagland as being the BIG MOVER & SHAKER IN ALL THAT, I attributed as being a DIRECTOR! But I never mentioned that to anyone, but one person!!!!
Now, if that was so, I had no proof to connect these peices before, but now a model exists!! The model of THE SUPER FRIENDS by Anonymous! No... I am serious!! Now, Chuck also said that he still had the FILM, the pre-production films of the host set! IN THEM HE SAYS..."IN THEM WE CAN SEE THINGS WE DID NOT SEE IN THE FINISHED PRODUCT! YOU CAN SEE THE DIRECTOR!!!
YOU CAN SEE HIM DIRECTING THE HOST POINTING HIS FINGER TELLING HIM WHERE TO GO!!"
So. When he answered me about the director, telling me he for some reason he found odd, was that he could not remember who the director was. It had to be someone he knew, someone he worked with. And MIND YOU MND YOU, we do not get new directors, we do not get new people. The people I work with
I've worked with for years!! He found it odd he could not bring a picture to mind, he could not place a face.
Yet, IN THAT FILM, YOU CAN SEE THE DIRECTOR!! MOVING HIS FINGER TELLING THE HOST WHAT TO DO, WHERE TO GO. Hmmmm. being a BIG MOVER & SHAKER AY?? Maybe his team thought he was being a BIG DICK that day? ;-) Something pissed these guys off in my opinion about Super Hoagy, their super Friend, in the
ILLUMINATI'S Best Freinds Fortress Of Solitude of THE MASONS!
Now the connection I feel applies to be considered here Anonymous, is the missing link to that Facet! That would match directly & would solidify those connections I see. Well, wouldn't it???
I WANT THOSE FILMS CHUCK!!!! if only. :-/
HOAGLAND DICK-TATES TO WHAT HE WANTS DONE AY?? Big MOVER & SHAKER IN ALL THAT INDEED!!
So Hoagland is in fact to summ this up here in what I see your saying, is that Super Hoagy really is an agent of THE ILLUMINATI! As it was THEY WHO SENT HOAGLAND TO THE MASONS?? That the TV NETWORK Grizzly Adams Productions which the ILLUMINATI control, because of the Corporation OUR TEAM, being
apart of the MASONS, met & Super Hoagy DIRECTED THE HOST SET?? DICK-TATIN' to the TEAM?? ha ha ha. Yes, it seems he was being a DICK to them! ha ha ha
Why can I imagine that for some reason??? Because of WHAT HE WANTS DONE!!
Shit, I can IMAGINE, from my own experience of things he wants done. But what happens when someone... says... NO!!!! ;-)
Ya wind up like me??? We'll see!!!
Yes I agree Anonymous. I am SURE ALSO, HOAGLAND KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS TO BE DONE!
The point is here Anonymous, is that HE DID IT!!! So if he is the
grandmaster Wizard of Oz, or in this case, the Wizard Of MARS? Then knowing all this entails in this code, then nothing should be coming as a surprise unto him? That also would imply he is aware of the same knowledge that his
team are also knowing. he had to have known about me also?? Because I am sure they did, because of the TIME thing I aint quite grasped yet! But if so, then he would also have to seen the parts of code where he sees his team finger pointing him out in this code to be seen in the future?
Because at this standpoint of view, it seems he was unawares, of this additional goodies to this code?? because he says himself, he not took the work seriously of NASA (maning himself) & his colleagues (OUR TEAM) seriously for up to 17 years, on the question of artifacts on Mars this
document (ufo diaries) pre-DICK-ted might be found!!!
cont..
Looking for all the world like HA HA.... HERE WE ARE. WE SEE YOU. WE KNOW WHAT YOU DID. WE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE!!! COME CLEAN!
So if he directed it, how could he have missed these additions?? We already KNOW AS EVIDENCE & MUST BE TAKEN as Fact, because Hoagland did not appear to rebutt, is the FACT that HOAGLAND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE SCENES WITH THESE IMAGES IN HAND!! Remember, THE WOMAN??? Shacklefords impacting blow to Hoagland's ass there connecting HIM to those images & to that scene telling us all the words she said were originally for Hoagland!! Without their Voice Of Authority in there, they had to INVENT A CHARECTAR, WHO'S GUESSING!
So. Those to me are blocks that both sides, in these senses of
POSSIBILITIES that connect, both contradict each other. I think & assume we really need that preproduction tape/s of the host set when it was shot!
Shackleford off the record told me that Hoagland was at the set that day!!! That he was across the room doing something else, but he remembered seeing Hoagland in there. An argument ensued, & Hoagland stormed off & off the set. Then he said he remembers hearing from across the room... someone saying Geee,... What an Asshole!!
I cracked up when I heard that. There to me connects because this code calls him THE BUTTRESS!!! The Man On The Moon. Calling him an ASS! get it? ;-)
There is humor here I do admit that. Though what happened to me & mine aint fucking funny at all!! NOR DESERVED!!!
Thanks for that tidbit & wouldn't it be great Anonymous, if we can show that is true?? What IF???... That Tape Sellier alluded to my hands can get on to show??? The odds I think are in favor we will see that Dick Hoagland in more things we seen him in on the finished product?! ;-)
Can he really be the BIG MOVER & SHAKER... IN ALL THAT??? Indeed.. could he ....be??
Anyway, sorry, but that was twilight zone cool!!! ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"They wanted the code out there and the perfect scenerio would be that no one would figure it out."
MARS REVEALER:
oK. The LLUMINATI wanted this code out there? yet the perfect scenario would be that no one figure it out??? Sorry Anonymous. To me that would be like the ASS Thing to do. That is just what not adds up to me. Your right, I have no clue about those stuffs. I aint a Satanist nor do I wanna be! ;-)
The best way no one to figure out anything, is NOT to put something out there to begin with! This is what does not add up. Not for this as I see anyway. Maybe your right. I am PRIMATIVE after all. Right? :-/
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"When you did figure parts of it out then they had a problem. The fix was to make sure no one listened to you."
MARS REVEALER:
Now, as powerful as the ILLUMINATI go & are, at least from what my
Primative ears have heard, is that they would have alrewady had the problem fixed, if I was the real problem here. ;-) Let's be real. I mean look, not bullshit me, I grew up around Italian...Families as it were. I knew if there is a problem, it got solved & no questions asked. So I did NOT ask.
;-)
Or are you yet leading up to that theoretical atmosphere? Cause if so...
Your wasting your time. Do what ya gotta do then. That would finish things I guess now won't it? Is that a theoretical scenario your leading up to here???
cont..
Because how to be certain to FIX something? I thought it wasn't broken to begin with? I also wonder, why is it or would it be such a great... PROBLEM?? It is their fucking bizzarre puzzle!! It is mine to try to solve.
So to solve fix this really would be to KILL ME!!
What would that problem be?? Who is it a problem to? Why is it a problem??
That is why Super Hoagy has this PROBLEM WITH ME!!! he needs to FIX things!
Tell this Illuminati to make him fix this shit, & I'll just take these Faces of Mars images & present them to the world & say hey, thanks & fuck you very much! I mean who am I? I cannot solve the worlds problems, but I feel I sure as I am saved By Jesus, that I can at least, solve THIS!!! Of
what fell on me & my duty as a SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHER to investigate this CASE, & Fight those & ALL WHO OPPOSE ME to succeed this investigation & MEAN HARM TO ME OR MY FAMILY!!!
You better HOPE I am NOT John Connor!!! better get it over with QUICK!!
Since no one, is appealling, to MY HIGHER NATURE?? AY CAPTAIN HOAGLAND?? To Drop this & Do Something Else Gary!!! My question to the buttresses that think this way of me, WHO ELSE OR WHAT ELSE CAN I BE?? IF NOT ABLE TO BE... ME???
What rights have you to persecute me from existance? From a Life? From amazing work doing really cool things!! Yes, who'd risk that?? MARS REVEALER!! GROW SOME NUTS!! FIGHT & WIN FOR THE CAUSE OF TRUTH!!
Kill me... Better hope you don't miss!!! This is bigger than myself, or my family, as great & important as that is. I not wanna live If I cannot be me!!
Put me out of my misery then you murderous scumbags!! CAUSE your only makin me madder & more determined!
Now I am pissed again!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"What is my interest in this? You did not volunteer for this but you for better or worse have been "selected". You should feel honored."
MARS REVEALER:
Great question! Your research should show that interest,.. If you show it to me that is? ;-)
Oh I know I not volunteered for this. But 'SELECTED'?? ya see, this code kinda implies that also. I think maybe it is a test to swell my head or not. It made me cautious!!! I'll say that! Selected as what? HEAD? The head
thing again! The code attributes it to Harry Truman. Stating in his own words, I Cannot Think Of A Better Way Of Choosing A Candidate To Be President"!
So of course you see my reluctance to look to deeply into that, especially when I run into that more places than one. Maybe candidate to be president to have my head cut off? Gee what a fucking prize! Just know before my head will roll spitting in the face of my enemy, John Connor is supposed to win the war!
I should feel HONORED to being the target of the ILLUMINATI, whose Super Freinds wanna kick my ass ay?? Because of a fucking code that they put out & ordered that DICK Hoagland to the Fortress of Solitude of The Masons, to do a program they themselves, put these images to be seen in.
Ok. So, are we on the same page?? Which seems more plausible?? Theoretical
posibilities. Coincidenes. Connections Most Intriguing! yet, what is the TRUTH???
cont...
If I am gonna be killed, I would like to know what it is I am dying for?
FREEDOM!! GROW SOME NUTS!! YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE!!!
For some fucking faces of Mars images??? I guess it is worth fighting for then, maybe even dying for, as I feel I have been doing the right thing by not giving up. If one cannot be true to oneself, how can oneself be true to others?
I should feel honored I was selected to be a hit, is what your theories spell out to me Anonymous!?
Selected by whom?? SELECTED FOR WHAT?? SUFFERING? HUMILIATION?? POVERTY??
Selected for PUNISHMENT?? Why am I to be punished? Why was I the one being Punished??? I did not create that fucking video!!!!!
Maybe I am misunderstanding, because from where I stand now Anonymous, I do not see a bright future. For me or mine. So please elaborate a little if you can why I should feel honored & for what?? This whole thing is ugly & has been. Look where we are at now. That is why I cannot wipe the slate, it has too much SHIT ON IT!!! I see no honor in all that has happened!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Your mission is the code. I also have my mission which has to do with MARS but is much different. I was not "selected". I for the lack of a better word "volunteered". Very few people ever follow their destiny and fullfill their purpose in life."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmm. My MISSION is the code? No offence, but how can you be sure? You also said basically I was a sucker for The Illuminati & The SUPER FRIENDS.
That I am twisting in the wind wasting my time. This is part why I think your just playing with me & my seriousness about this. Now it is my mission. Which is correct because I feel as like I am on one. In regards to Hoagland, I am on a mission to get payback. Regarding this code, I am also,
but mainly for these faces Of Mars MYSTERIOUS PICTURES!
You have a MISSION regards to Mars also you say?? You also apart of the SUPER FRIENDS? ;-) Seriously, though, I am curious as to what your saying & referring to. You 'VOLUNTEERED' ay? Hmmmm. Into what? ;-)
There is much more I feel I can understand, if maybe you would share your research that soun ds really amazing & interesting, but I feel that can shed more light to what it is your trying to tell me?
You 'VOLUNTEERED' & were not 'SELECTED' as you say I was, which again, you think I should feel honored. This is confusing & does seem to be an opportunity to be learned more of, but remaining anonymous in your research, as well as what it is you may be trying to tell me, I cannot figure it out. :-/
OK, here is a question, those you VOLUNTEERED for are the same ones who SELECTED me? I really want more input from you if possible regards to this.
I feel however, PROOF in what your saying, especially about me, is needed!
Because from not being apart of this in any way, you did a turn around & seem to imply knowledge regarding this all. I mean no offence but surely you can see my points raised? I mean your telling me all this for a reason right? To go someplace right? To be on the same page right?
Very Few People you say, seldom ever follow their destiny & fulfill their purpose in life. I guess with the ILLUMINATI & THE SUPER FRIENDS around, I can see why?! But seriously anonymous, is it bad to feel or want a purpose in Life to live for, to fight for?? It would suck to die for, but as it may ay?! I do not know what this DESTINY is that may be implied to me that I do feel something I have to do. I intend to fulfill my purpose & I hope that I would make a difference that counts for my children & YOURS & for all! A fantasist? Maybe I am. I am a visionary, & a dreamer. I was taught it was OK to have these qualities that so many now disencourage!
cont...
Maybe your poking fun at me or maybe your giving me a warning there also ay? I can read it like that regarding being able or not to fulfill my purpose in life. I can only try right? Again, who am I against these powers, but surely, as you say, I am enough to shake some SKULLS huh?
That is funny!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Back to my interest in this...I'm trying to get you to re-focus on the code. You are correct in that to figure out the rest of the code you have to deal with Hoagland. I just hope you can do it with a clear mind and not cloud your head with this intense revenge factor."
MARS REVEALER:
Your trying to get me to refocus on the code. Hmmmm. Before you were trying to sway me from continuing. You can see why I am suspect here of your seriousness?! I am trying to be as clear minded as I can be, but as I said, we are suffering still from what he did to us! THAT MUST BE FIXED!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Not saying you do not have every right in the world to want revenge, its just that I think the code is much more important, not just for you and your family but for the rest of us also. . Of course I am not standing in your shoes and probably do not know the whole story....I understand that."
MARS REVEALER:
The code I also feel is very important! But until some things get fixed, I would not have all hope on me to succeed. I NEED HELP!! There aint none to be seen or had. So until he fixes things with PAYBACK I am on this path with him & he has yet to feel my anguish of 3 years. So that ball is in his court to fix things. The odds not look good to him doing anything.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"You are correct when you say this is about time. This has to be exposed before time runs out."
MARS REVEALER:
Before Time runs out ay? Hmmmm. Seems I cannot help that much, as I do not know the time limits here with this. Me & my family have needs, the basics & other small needs that would help ensure my time studying this is worthwhile & YOU CAN HOPE! But as of now,... if your truthful, hope not looks good. Does it???
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"The masses have to know what is on MARS but the planet is pure evil. It needs to be quarantined before certain DNA is brought back to earth. If it is brought back we will experience "Hell on Earth"."
MARS REVEALER:
I agree we all have to know what is on Mars. Is it PURE EVIL? Hmmm. Sounds like your research I really would love again, to know more about that makes you come to that conclusion! ;-) But that aint up to me now is it?
If people hope I can & will do this, why not anyone help?? Or are you able or wanting to help out there some as well? I am trying to figure out why your speaking with me & where your trying to go in these Theoretical discussions to things you say you know for certain. That is a big jump.
Either way, as I said, your great conversation. Sounds like your speaking about The Movie Doom or Ghosts of Mars. next thing the Transformers will show up & help starship Troopers help me save earth! ;-) Ha ha ha. Juss playin. But I think you got my hints?! How much interest do you have in wanting me to succeed??? Can you help? Actions speak louder than words there.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"What is this about when you peel away all the BS? Immortality"
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmm. Hopefully not starting with my death? ;-) It seems it will go either way, & I will have FAITH!!! But Immortality. I really think I need to hear more from you. About this, & OTHER stuffs.
Let us be on the same page please. I hope to hear back from you although I aint very sure about you. But you seem serious about these topics in the least. As I said, you put thought into all this... SHIT! If I indeed was SELECTED as you say, wouldn't they want to or be able to help me??? I guess we will see in your next theoretical replies?~! I hope so.
Thanks again for replying. You have my attention... NOW WHAT???
MARS REVEALER
MR, I'm not sure why you continue to insist that I am taking Richard Hoagland's side in something I really don't know much about. I think what you are confusing is the fact that I am laid back and am not getting all bent out of shape about what you describe happened. The thing with you and Hoagland is just that, something between you two because as you say it got "personnal". . The best I can do is say that my impression of him makes it very clear to me that I cannot dismiss what you say happened.
As far as my "theories" I can say that I try to deal in facts. If it is just an opinion/theory then I try not to forget to say so.
As far as following what you have been doing, yes I have read the things you have been doing but to be honest I could never make much sense of it until I watched some 3 part video you did recently. Only after watching that did it make a little more sense than it did before. I believe it was the 2ND video where you seemed to calm down and quit wandering all over the place and laid out just what you were getting at. Part of the 3rd video was also quite good but toward the end you started losing me again.
I'm glad you don't think I am messing around with you. I take the subject of Mars very seriously for reasons I rather not go into.
As far as my research, its all out there, all of it except one thing that involves a personnal experience. I have no choice, its part of my mandate. It would not surprise me if you haven't already run across it but I cannot pimp it here, thats part of the agreement also. Those that are led to it will know why and what they need to do.
A long time ago you made the statement that you believed that a "Higher Than Human Intelligence" made the faces on mars. I will tell you now that you were correct as far as I am concerned based on that "personnal experience". That Higher Intelligence is evil to the core just for you information. At the top of the food chain, as far as I know, is a female entity. When she looks at you it is a very uncomfortable feeling, its like a stare that goes right to your soul. Beautiful bitch but a bitch none-the-less. I whimped out and left after only 5 seconds into the meeting. A lot of souls were lost on Mars and if they get their way there will be a repeat on earth. You can take that anyway you want to as I felt a need to throw it out there.
As far as me controlling Hoagland because I was getting tired of waiting for him to disclose certain things then you would be wrong. I am no different than you in that matter. You have a list of things you want him to disclose because of your agenda and I have a list of things I would like him to disclose because I think he does know about them. Like I said earlier, I have never met or spoken to him like you have, but for better or worse he is positioned as the gatekeeper in this Mars stuff so he has the ears of millions of people. Its just the simple reality of the situation you have to deal with. No reason to read more into it than is there. If I did have any power I think I could just pick up the phone and call Hoagland and say "Dick, I want you to disclose this next". LOL.
Another thing is this "TEAM" you keep referring too. Members of what team? Are you talking about the "Team" of people like yourelf that "volunteered" to help Hoagland do research? If so then why would you ever think they were a part of the controlling Powers That Be? Sounds like just some people interested in doing Mars research. Or are you talking about some "Team" behind the scenes that put the codes on that TV program? I think you are forgetting that I was not there and so these small details tend to confuse me. If so then why would you think they were not messing with you? You can imagine that I am messing with you but not the people that put that code in the TV program? You gave them credit for telling you in the codes that they want Hoagland to come clean and you feel that that information is completely legit?
Quote MR:
Does that mean my head on a platter?? Fuck, then why aint I dead already??
Why would they want to do that? They seemed to have neutralized you already. I think the way that works is this. If millions of people listened to you then you are a danger to them. When no one (millions of people) is listening to you then there is no threat. even if you broke the entire code tomorrow and posted the whole thing on your website and no one was listening then you still pose no threat.
Quote MR:
The best way no one to figure out anything, is NOT to put something out there to begin with! This is what does not add up.
Thats what I am trying to tell you. They have no choice but to put it out there. If they want to do anything it has to be hidden in plain sight. The humans have to have the chance to figure it out. If they cannot then thats great for the bad guys. Its the rules that they have to play by. Its why just about anything they do has been told in a movie at one time or anther but it is hidden among a ton of other crap.
Quote MR:
Now with 3 deaths in my family that would not have occured if we were not forced to leave!!
Do you see how frustrating this is to me? I make statements in response to what you said happened with Hoagland and then you throw new things like that out there which of course puts a whole new spin on it. Of course you are the only one that knows why you attribute those deaths to Hoagland. Thats getting way too personal for me and and something that is none of my business.
Quote MR:
OK, here is a question, those you VOLUNTEERED for are the same ones who SELECTED me? I really want more input from you if possible regards to this.
Yes. We are again getting into the Spiritual Realm again. They are the ones that lead you to places. They are the ones that show you things. They are the ones that put explainations in your head. You want proof? There is none. You either know it and feel it or you don't. I think you referred to that as faith. In my case it was more than faith it was something I was actually shown.
Quote MR:
Anyway, you then imply that the rest of us are in HOPE of what I can do with this. That is an odd statement. WHY?????
I can only speak for myself and frankly talking about it makes me uncomfortable as that area is not my specialty. There are many more learned people who are experts. But thats where all this leads and is more in the spiritual realm. You keep going in that direction with your questions and the best I could do is give you a general outline that is probably full of holes and mistaken notions. But in general I'm sure its correct.
But the problem I have with the "spiritual realm" is it skips over many steps to an orderly process of Mars research. I only dabble in it because I was brought into the Mars reseach at that level and had to go back and start at the beginning.
This is how I see the orderly process:
1. Was there once an ancient civilization on Mars? I think many of us can agree that there was. This bypasses the question of if there is still remnants of that civilization still up there possibly living underground.
2. What did these people look like? I have come to the conclusion they look like us. Hoagland also said he thinks that way. Stitchins and his Annunaki would also be in that camp. That eliminates any green or red aliens or the greys the UFO crowd talk about.
3. If they look like us then is there a connection with them and us earthings? You have to think there has to be a connection which would explain all these secret societies with their supposed secret knowledge. Secretcy to me implys evil. Why else keep it secret? So in my opinion, by definition they are evil.
4. so if I am on the right track they are evil and have an agenda for the people on earth and their minions work toward this agenda through the secret societies.
5. What is their agenda? This in my opinion is where you start getting into the "spiritual realm". If there is anything to your code then this is where it would come in. Thats why I am interested in seeing if there is anything to it. Like I said earlier I think I have a general ideal of what that agenda is but the details escape me and that code is the only ball game in town that could possibly fill in some of the pieces.
I just read this at a site I think is 50 percent BS but wondered how they managed to get this right.
"Not being told to the American people about this Great Game, currently being played out upon our Earth, is that their leaders, including Obama, are part of a centuries old “cabal” intent upon igniting what they believe will be our Planet’s “Final Battle” which, according to their beliefs, will see the return to our Planet of the “ancient gods"
Notice "gods" is plural. More than one god running around. Is this inconsistant with the old testament? No, in many places it talks about god in the plural. "Sons of Gods" and "you shall not have any other gods before me". Now if there is only one god then why say all this in the old testament? And who is the real god of the old testament? A god who is jealous of other gods? A god that demands blood sacrifices? A god that demonized all the people on earth except the israelites who he ledaround slaughtering without mercy? these demonized people he himself made? are saying saying God can make mistakes? That he made these gentiles and it was a big "boo boo"? Even at Sodom And Gomorrah you have some slob named Lot depicted as a holy man.
When they had not yet retired, and the people of the city, the people of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, the entire populace from every end [of the city]. And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, and let us know them." In response, Lot refuses to give his guests to the inhabitants of Sodom, and instead offers them his two unmarried daughters, "who have not known man", to do with as they please.
so this nice guy offers his two daughters up to this mob to "do as they please to them". does that sound like a holy man?
Does something strike you as being wrong here? Why would god be jealous of other gods if they don't even exist? Something else is going on here in my opinion.
Trying to answer that is a very hard thing to do. There are very few places to look. One place would be Stitchins and his Annunaki, in the Summerian text. These are advanced mortals that came to earth and were looked up to as gods. They came to earth from Niberu for the gold to save their planet. They also inhabited Mars. Or could these Annunaki be the fallen angels and there is no Niberu? Or could the Annukai be the Nephilim, the offspring of humans and fallen angels?
The Fallen Angels are immortal and Humans are mortal beings. So what do you get when you have a Immortal being having sex with a mortal being? A Nephilim? So is a Nephilim mortal or immortal? They would have to be both but how does that work? Is that why it says Nephilim are the biggest abomination to god? Is that why he says he had to imprison them in the underworld until the end times when he will unleash them on the earth once again to prey on humans?
How can you be both mortal and immortal? Could it be like Dracula? You can kill him by running a wooden stake through his heart but if you ever remove it he comes back to life? Can you kill one and then they re-incarnate into another body?
What has confused me is how a Fallen Angel which is supposed to be a spiritual being could have sex with a human which is a physical being in the first place. How was it possible to produce the first Nephilim?
They say that a spiritual being like a fallen Angel cannot take over your body. You have to invite it in somehow but the best they could ever do is share that body with you. But a Nephilim is much different. Once you have a Nephilim being then a fallen angel can actually take it over and its the only way a fallen angel can become physical.
So my theory is that god imprisoned the Nephilim on mars. Probably there are mummies underground and the minions of the secret societies want to get their DNA and bring it back to earth to produce physical bodies the Sons of Gods can take over to kill humans.
What would be the point of that? Why would the fallen angels be so concerned about what happens on earth when they can go anywhere in the Universe? Why is the focus on earth?
My theory is immortality. To be more precise....Judgement day. Thats is where the time factor comes in. for some reason the Creator decided to hold court on this hell hole of a planet. I would imagine the entire universe knows about it.
From what I understand it works like this. On judgement day, all will be judged. Fallen angels, Humans and all other beings. Those immortal beings that are judged to be unworthy will lose their immortality. They will be replaced by humans that are judged to be worthy.
So the fallen Angels figure that it is in their best interest to corrupt as many humans as possible. Make it so there are no humans that can replace them. I don't thonk that will matter but I think thats what they think. Never the less they are doing a very good job at corrupting humans. I seriously doubt that there are many humans worthy of becoming immortal creatures at this time.
Sorry if I bored you with this but you kept wanting me to go into it.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Sorry if I bored you with this but you kept wanting me to go into it."
MARS REVEALER:
No apolagies. Yes I wanted you & still want you to get into it!
Far from bored I was with your replies. Interesting enough.
This alone what we are discussing it seems, would have made for a better show. But maybe it can lead there ay?
As I said, the topics you discuss are fascinating.
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"MR, I'm not sure why you continue to insist that I am taking Richard Hoagland's side in something I really don't know much about."
MARS REVEALER:
I do not insist your taking his side. I just SENSE something in things written by you that by being FAIR as you were, it appears you were making excuses for him. Maybe that aint what you were doing, but again, I sense something in your words!
That I should accept it, & ignore it, & move on as like nothing ever happened, to lick the shit slate clean without him needing to fix things 1st, so I can work on this code & continue my work & take care of things that needin be taken care of!!
I hear you in your words, & one thing that to me I sense strongly, is that this is something I feel you know much about!
Your spelling out his hypothetical sides to this as possible explanations to me, which I was NOT asking for from anyone but HIM to do, but I understand this controversy stirs emotions & ones train of thought. To try to figure something out here that demands to be investigated. Thus I feel your reply's to me regarding this?! Who knows. But possibilities & things well noted in the hypothetical realms you mentioned that shown &
told me, you seem to know some things. At least that is the impression you wanted me & I think others to see.
You see, the way I see it, you should be doing something before
posting to me!! What is that you say? DEMAND THE TRUTH FROM THAT DICK HOAGLAND PUBLICLY!! OVER & OVER UNTIL DEMAND INCREASES! Until he cannot run from it any more!
You obviously can see enough that in what I am trying to do is to help you all GROW SOME NUTS & DEAMND THE TRUTH FROM HIM!
These Images, his connections to them, to his connections to THOSE BEHIND THE PROGRAM,... The OUR TEAM OF INTELLIGENCE! FROM THE SECRET INTELLIGENCE OF OUR OWN WORLD! Being clued in to us all as having a Masonic connection. Thanks to Mr. Sellier!
Thus also a Masonic connection to a certain 'MEMBER OF OUR TEAM', that is NOT wishing to be PHOTOGRAPHED is attributed here!? Or that NOT wished to Be photographed way back when neither! But it seems someone from 'OUR TEAM', wanted it to be
known to us who his Team is or was?,... Telling us all now, that NOW, Hoagland is also RE-DISCOVERING 'OUR' HERITAGE, OF WHAT WE ONCE WERE!!! Can it be this certain 'MEMBER OF OUR TEAM' by making these connections, that we are being told, that he was once a MASON???
Now I wonder, why WOULD THAT be there at all?
However I really don't give a shit, I am focusing on these images of the FACES OF MARS! That is what I want, that is what I NEED!
cont..
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"I think what you are confusing is the fact that I am laid back and am not getting all bent out of shape about what you describe happened. The thing with you and Hoagland is just that, something between you two because as you say it got "personnal".
MARS REVEALER:
All bent outta shape ay? Maybe I am being MOLDED? Yes, it is PERSONAL, I also did say this was ugly didn't I? I am makin it a public fight!! So how about that ay?! But as it is & may, it aint just between us 2!! It is between us & HIM! Why? Because he is screwing over everyone,... 'EVERYONE...!!!" Whom he declared PUBLICLY ON HIS OWN FORUM, That OTHERS Do the SERIOUS
LEGWORK. (A hint of this being a RACE?!) Yet he said to get him
the information to help HIM do the investigation he said he would do for us all to get the truth & these images into all our hands!
See how that shit all worked out now ay?! To me, I think HIS TEAM,... Wanted us to see & have these images by now & it's
information?? Because the TIMING of this code, in trying to study it & in trying to investigate also coincidentally opened up a dimensional doorway as it were, & THEY ARE DOING THE TALKING! Fingerpointing the way, hinting & riddling the way for us to help us see some interesting things.
Yet I feel it is a training course, that when through, the training will help me solve this code & reveal it's message?!
That is a theoretical possibility here, amongst others I have.
Now as YOU yourself theoretically proposed, was that if it were
me or someone else, he still would have acted & reacted the same way? Doing the same things right? Therefore he has done it to them all already by making an example of me! To THEM! That they shall see what hapens when someone dares to grow nuts & stand against Hoagland for the TRUTH! Putting fear of God as it were, into his Hobbits that worship him as a deity!
No serious Mars researcher will stand up to him about this,...
WHY? maybe they already experienced his BUTTRESS AY? That
pussed them down maybe because they feared loss of themselves &
their own?
You also said things were being done they are doing to me. I
heard ya loud & clear there anonymous. But MY MESSAGE IS FOR
THOSE THAT SEE & HEAR, THEY ARE THE RESISTANCE!!
Then this fight, aint just tween me & Super Hoagy neither! See the Logic??? But as it is, my main objective is to just get the
truth about these pictures! About Super Hoagy, about his 'OUR TEAM', about the things they want us to see & know in this code, that it seems someone else, does NOT want us to see or know.
To me, it is obvious, there aint only ONE PLAYER in this GAME AS YOU CALL IT! As does & did Hoagland to me way back when.
Hmmmmmmm.
More research needed & evidence put forth by dueling players.
But I am beginning to see a stage in more ways than one of what this can also theoretically can possibly be.
I was public, therefore, he acting as the OPERATIVE HE IS... OR WAS,... HE ACTED AGAINST THE PUBLIC FROM US, WE THE PEOPLE, FROM GETTING TO SEE OR KNOW OF THIS KNOWLEDGE!
So My PERSONAL SIDES RUN TO DEEP THAN JUST MYSELF, in what I am
trying to do here!!! It aint JUST myself I care about here also ya know!! This is bigger than myself! I try to keep that in mind.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"The best I can do is say that my impression of him makes it very clear to me that I cannot dismiss what you say happened."
MARS REVEALER:
Obviously not Anonymous. You did after all have much interesting THEORETICAL POSSIBILITIES put forth that surely helped impressions some. But true, by your impression of him, it does make it very clear, you cannot dismiss what I say happened. That was & is obvious.
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"As far as my "theories" I can say that I try to deal in facts. If it is just an opinion/theory then I try not to forget to say so."
MARS REVEALER:
Yes, I heard ya, you dealt that hand well, I think, Anonymous. Those were interesting Facts. Or FAX! ;-)
(You remind me of someone here, who I feel you can appreciate.
I will tell & show you later as some is relevant I sesne.)
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"As far as following what you have been doing, yes I have read the things you have been doing but to be honest I could never make much sense of it until I watched some 3 part video you did recently."
MARS REVEALER:
Well that's cool. To me it seemed obvious you were grasping some of the things to come up with some well thought out Hypothetical or theoretical possibilities in the facts you dealt. There is a method in this I use that maybe causes
confusion. I also said from the very beginning, this was & would be a work in progress. This code describes ME as someone who is digging out a Pyramid. Teaching me basic Methods of archeology. Describing me as someone who uncovers from the DIRT, strange writings or heiroglyphics to which is trying to be cleaned & seen & deciphered. There appears to be a ROSETTA type stone aspect to this I also was able to uncover.
Now please stand with me a moment here. In continuing digging & seeing this lingo, & trying to decipher it, some progress was made. Some before others. It was obvious to me what the basic model I needed to do was. & that was to build a site, starting the breakdown of the audio & visual aspects, to allow me & hopefully us, to read more deeply tween the lines. Now things seen then, was put, but things NOT seen then, were not seen.
Things are still NOT seen & connected, that would allow us all to see more clearly the things we did not see before. UNLESS & UNTIL, enough progress or TIME, or more perhaps progress in this through time, would allow us to see this all more clearly NOW, rather as unto later.
So in essence this investigation into the code, & deciphering this lingo, was not meant to be gleaned & learned overnight! It admits itself is a product of process & progress, trial & error, being set up or designed a s some type of super computer program that is being given unto us all to show us how Intelligent Beings communicate across worlds, Solar Systems, Galaxies! But TIME is a importance somehow in that all of which also is trying to be shown & I think explained. IF I can gain access to those FILES as it were, that would allow me to open those drawers up in it's hidden LIBRARIES. That I feel would allow us also to do the same. Maybe they want a Reply??? Kinda like Aricebo but in a more twilight zonish way?! A way unheard of or undreamt?!
Now I know where I left my own markers as for instance in my web pages of varied breakdowns of what I see, whrre later I will & can come back & fix & make the changes necessary that would take away some of the confusion. That is why I asked for patience & understanding. Yeah rite. :-/
I admit my fault upon NOT being able to see it all clearly or well enough to PAINT THE PICTURES I SEE, that someone is doing through what I do put forth clearly can be seen, that someone else, is doing the painting! To me again, that is the REAL Martians, as this code suggests, &/or this secret Intelligence Group called 'OUR OWN....OUR TEAM'!! They may be one & the same. I am theortically prospecting that possibility! With
Super Hoagy being outright in admittance when & if we see that
FACET, that SOMEDAY, WE MAY DISCOVER THAT WE,... WERE THE
MARTIANS AFTER ALL!!
cont...
I mean come on I know how nuts I sound. But I am beyond that shit. Ha ha. If I were, there would be NO connections, no outside connections or attributes that enpower these connections & my theoretical possibilities with all this shit!
I see enough that I am at attention. TIME has helped me to progress as I studied & am archeologyin' the shit outta this
THING, to be more clearer for you the way I have in those 3 parts videos you spoken about you seen. That helped you understand some things, yet ya lost me again.
Trust me, if you continue to follow my progress, hopefully I will have some or be allowed to. :-/ But if it is destined, than I know more will become clearer for you as well. There is MANY ASPECTS & MANY THINGS I SEE I have NOT told or shown.
Because I need more input to make the past connections or things seen better, so I can continue & put forth where this is leading US ALL! Where THEY (The Martians or OUR OWN) are leading us along this communication trying to be taken place.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Only after watching that did it make a little more sense than it did before. I believe it was the 2ND video where you seemed to calm down and quit wandering all over the place and laid out just what you were getting at. Part of the 3rd video was also quite good but toward the end you started losing me again."
MARS REVEALER:
The 3rd part of the video I believe you may be referring to was something YOU & YOU & YOU ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN CLOSELY TO! because IT... DEMONSTRATES... IT... DEMONSTRATED!! I left the show off as if with a What The Fuck?? What type of ending was that, to MY POINT BEING PROVED! THAT THIS CODE.. THIS THING... IT.... DEMONSTRATED AS I was leading you to see. You missed me someplace that led you off that rail. No fault of me there. ;-)
You see, this code attests also that this ALIEN ARTIFACT BEING UNCOVERED, is a test of YOUR INtelligence also! & You & You &
Yours & you all! It seems to be wanting you all also, to partake & see if any can go as far as I have, or to be even showing them something I THINK, they wanna see! I feel that something they want to see from us all. What? Why? I do not know. But if what I am able to see or able to do because of a test, I think it is good to show, that someone can see or do something with it??? I do see & sense an ALIEN PRESENCE of something or someone ADVANCED that may be trying also to speak or get a message out in this THING!
But if this is a GAME as you say & Super Hoagy even, I can only pray that I am doing something that is right, & for the good of us all, because the only other alternative here, is the opposite. But something very important is going on, that warrants this THING. I do sense that much & see that much.
making claims about me even, & my attributes I admit, is hard to believe,.... Like this question attributed,.. How long did Noah live??? You already heard the Candidate to be President, then goes off someplace else to add something also 'To Restore the Beaches.'
One thing I found clearly alarming in this in more ways than one, is ASTEROIDS... PARTS OF FORMER MOTHER PLANET.... SURVIVAL PROCEDURES.... START DIGGING IN! Those are but a few of the many things... even calling me an AMBASSADOR?!
Now as investigator into this strange shit, I must admit my theory about this being an ET communication as it were built in this code, we it appears, are being WARNED!!!! I have learned
enough as I said, to see some things. I kinda feel like a fucking Nostradamus in this. Because it does have remarkable
preciting phenommena unto this. I will NOT get into this now.
cont...
But the importance of this ARTIFACT being uncovered, is as such I am treating it as being an Intelligence training course to be
able to speak or communicate with beings from Mars, or from beyond the solar system, & maybe just maybe, even across dimesions?! I am not a scientist that would be able to theoretically be able to hypothesize my theories on this as a thesis or working model, but I think & feel & STRONGLY SENSE, I
THINK WE HAVE A WORKING MODEL TO WORK WITH!!
That is a message I get quite clearly from this. The more clearer I am able to decipher & access the files this THING attains, & be able to show that clearly, the more this ITSELF will draw scientists conclusions themselves unto this THING that predicts itself will do one day. (part of the predicting nature shit there)
Look, I do NOT know or have all the fucking answers. That is why I am FIGHTING FOR US ALL TO DO & BE ABLE TO GET. I admit I cannot be the perfect guy for this, & I am far from a Super Hoagy, so the chances of me with this if it is NOT having me as an element as being apart of this artifact, then I hope there is someone out there that sees this, & not only confirms what I been trying to do & show, will clarify for all my efforts & vindicate me & even solve & show all this. because there is so much to this that I feel can transform all our lives, IF WE ARE ABLE TO SEE IT & Follow the LIGHT! NOT the darkness!
If this is what it appears to me as being, then I think someone wanted to give me an edge to use, maybe to use this as a SWORD against my enemies? Or OUR ENEMIES?! Kinda placing my/our
enemies before me/us as a foot rest, or a sword holder. or more
in my hope, this is something can can lead us out from the darkness, & into the light of a DAWN OF A NEW DAY! Where this cocmmunication of disclosure as it may be by the time I am through, will show of itself, & maybe be a show of shaking hands, rather than a demands or terms for war or to prevent one! Know what I mean????
So there is much avenues of study in this I have & am needed to keep eyes on to see where & WHEN THE NEXT CONNECTION, will make it another step closer to being the reality, & or the communication trying to be gleaned from space & time, stored as it were in compressed form, from a Ufo Diaries video. That connects to other things outside of Ufo Diaries. I think Ufo Diaries as a central Hub as it were, in computer terms. Or central command center for this code structure.
I am sure I lost ya again. See what I mean? If you cannot see
what I am showing, how then can you be certain of the rules or things going on with me & this THING, this CODE, or of it's intents. That I find incredible without the data to see it. I am sure you appreciate where I am coming from.
ANONYMOUS SAID..."
I'm glad you don't think I am messing around with you. I take the subject of Mars very seriously for reasons I rather not go into."
MARS REVEALER:
I think honestly your doing something or are up to something,
But I do not think messin with me is the goal. All I can say is that maybe sometime we can look into those things, because you rather not go into. Now anyway. if ever. But you came to this smog of a blog & wanted to talk. I am listening. As best I can anyway at the moment. :-/
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"As far as my research, its all out there, all of it except one thing that involves a personnal experience."
MARS REVEALER:
Well, I can actually say I have some some weird... Ummmm EXPERIENCES, so I think I feel something akin to that term that
applies to your words. maybe I am wrong. I aint perfect or a super Hero or nuthin. :-/
But I am curious to know of ALL THAT IS OUT THERE of your research. Maybe even of that experience also. But only because you mentioned it. ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"I have no choice, its part of my mandate. It would not surprise me if you haven't already run across it but I cannot pimp it here, thats part of the agreement also."
MARS REVEALER:
No choice ay? A mandate? Sounds on professional level type stuffs? Maybe some abbreviated letterings behind that mandate?
Maybe I have run across it, but then again, you talking but not talking leaves me only to be curious. I have enough curiousities to work on & figure out. You cannot Pimp it here
neither shows that apart of your mandate is to appear here then ay? Hmmmm As long as a ManDate not FAX'S me bein fucked by you, then stay as long as you want. I know it aint much of a blog, but I admit you do bring good topics & good discussion. If only there were no crickets!
So this mandate disallows you from mentioning information here ay? But is ok that your here. If so, why are you here then & regards to your mandate, what the hell does that have to do with me & you in what we are trying to see in each others pages as it were?
You obviously want me to understand something from this all. It is somethings your alluding to & outright hinting & leaving alone on others. But it is leading to something. I will give ya that.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Those that are led to it will know why and what they need to do."
MARS REVEALER:
Ok. you obviously had to attribute that. So in essence there is shit to be found that is meant to do some things. Seems kinda the norm lately. That must not include me in that mandate then ay? Because I am the opposite of that statement. At the moment anyway.
I know those words have meaning but what can I say? I wish I knew.
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"A long time ago you made the statement that you believed that a "Higher Than Human Intelligence" made the faces on mars. I will tell you now that you were correct as far as I am concerned based on that "personnal experience"."
MARS REVEALER:
Again, feeling I can relate to Personal Experiences' factor. ;-) But yes, I do believe that a Higher Than Human Intelligence was maybe involved. If evolution in any way is correct, (which I dont bet on or believe much in) BUT if any truth can be in that, then I mean on a scale or level beyond us
currently on our plain of evolutionary brain & skill capacity that allowed Mars to be DONE UP as it was. That is if these et's were human in terms of our genetics applied. Of course
other than human in being & nature also this can mean as well.
Obviously. Those are parts of the many questions that come to my mind. As well as yours is obvious, regards to your well thought out theoretical models based upon your anonymous research. But in either case, yes, I do see & believe that to be the case. But till we go.....???
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"That Higher Intelligence is evil to the core just for your information."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmm. For my information??? All I have is your words on that without the work to show it. LIke superr Hoagy there in saying what he did & your miff with him about not showing or telling those conclusions.
I mean, not misunderstand me. I aint trying to be rude. I am being... fair!!! So how can I without those conclusions also,
take that as for certainty? But yes,... alas, you may be right.
That piece of the puzzle is definitely on the table with
others, of the MARTIAN REVELATION. As totally plausible models considering.... what we have to consider, to what FACTS.. OR FAX... WE HAVE & GET!!!
That is part of my fight ya know? To get us this FAX's & Images of Mysterious Pictures!!
But you do seem serious about your feelings on Higher Intelligence being evil to the core. You can also mean the Higher Intelligence that controls this shit also. ;-)
of course I have questions. But I know if you have something to say, you'd just say it right?
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"At the top of the food chain, as far as I know, is a female entity. When she looks at you it is a very uncomfortable feeling, its like a stare that goes right to your soul. Beautiful bitch but a bitch none-the-less."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmm. Is it against mandate to tell/show me more of her? Why
mention her at all I wonder. Unless she is somehow connected?
Again, maybe someday, we will be on the same page.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"I whimped out and left after only 5 seconds into the meeting. A lot of souls were lost on Mars and if they get their way there will be a repeat on earth. You can take that anyway you want to as I felt a need to throw it out there."
MARS REVEALER:
Planet Of the Vampires now ay? ;-)
But you wimped out after 5 minutes with HER you mean ay? 5 seconds rather. A meeting with others? A meeting with the Mandaters & her?? Can you provide details on your meeting/s?
So... the TOP is a BITCH you say ay? More meaning there than
meets the eyes I am sure also. ;-) But until & if a time comes
I know what you mean. Your words are noted.
A lot of souls were lost on Mars ay? Now why do I think that is
something I really would like to know more of that story?
Then you say, If THEY get their way, there will be a repeat on earth? That depends, what is really on & In Mars as the reality, not what someone wants us to think. Especially without that speciffic information maybe your mandate knows ay?!
cont...
But who is the THEY you refer to? The LOST SOULS of Mars??
That if they get their way, you say, there will be a repeat on Earth? Hmmm a repeat of what on Earth?? of what? UFO DIARIES, showing the Faces of Mars Mysterious Pictures of Old, yet New Data??
I can take that any way I want tells me there may be more FACETS to this statement than appears to the surface ay?
But I cannot know because your not willing or able to go there.
So...
ANONYMOUS SAID..
"As far as me controlling Hoagland because I was getting tired of waiting for him to disclose certain things then you would be
wrong."
MARS REVEALER:
I did not say you were controlling Hoagland. But you implied being ...impatient for him to do what theortetical processes you described about him were of course.
It seems you are wanting me to know about YOU. For some reason or another, in the least of you posting anonymously regarding this all, or something or other connected. I am here trying to
listen. The thing I am concerned with, is wether or not we are on the same page as far as me & you go. I am still trying to see what ultimately your trying to say or bring forth, if anything, in your mandated purposes for posting here.
you already know my page I am on. So, I am continuing to listen.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"I am no different than you in that matter. You have a list of
things you want him to disclose because of your agenda and I have a list of things I would like him to disclose because I think he does know about them."
MARS REVEALER:
My agenda? Hmmmm... But yes, there is a list of things I do want him to disclose & Other things I want him to do!
yet you say that you also, have a LIST of things you would also
like him to disclose, because you think he does know about them?? Hmmmm. About what? Your list? Mine?? or BOTH??? if so, what chance is there in me seeing your list? If & is it a connection to the things on my list? Can these 2 be joined?
Would that in what I am trying to say I think, is can that or will that be better for all to see this, or what I need to make added connections?
Can it help me in my investigation? Can it help vindicate me?
can it help me pay him back for the things he gave to me & mine? The enemy of My enemy.. as the saying goes, therefore, is a freind in need??
I think & know he knows about the things on my list.
But what if...?????
cont... (much more tomorrow to reply in all ya said...)
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Like I said earlier, I have never met or spoken to him like you have, but for better or worse he is positioned as the gatekeeper in this Mars stuff so he has the ears of millions of people."
MARS REVEALER:
Yes, you did say that in ways. But you also said that For Beter or Worse attributed for me, being 'SELECTED' as is positioned, by which you not yet explain to me on. Or is the position you mean me being FUCKED?? By me being the bottom & all, & Super Hoagy the Top, this code described it being as, telling me I needed to RE-ORIENT MYSELF! Ha ha ha ha. I have to laugh! But serious, scary, & still really unknown to me what this all really is. I have to keep my sense of humor. But this is my LIFE!! You also said I should be HONORED! By being fucked??? That aint an honor to me! :-/
I yet cannot wait to see a reply to that! Unless I am obviously on the wrong page here?! Then please do... allow the light to shine!
No offence of course. I mean being fair & all.
So again yes, he has the ears of millions.... playin em all for suckaz!!!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Its just the simple reality of the situation you have to deal with. No reason to read more into it than is there."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmm. Really now? But how do you know or did you know I would & DO read more deeply into that?? yes,... You been thinking this through before you replied to me.
If I have to DEAL WITH HIM, I hope it will be on better terms than is looking forward now??? But somehow I see truth in your statement for whatever facet applies. yet you also know the page I am on. So the point in your meaning still leads us all to....?????
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"If I did have any power I think I could just pick up the phone and call Hoagland and say "Dick, I want you to disclose this next". LOL."
MARS REVEALER:
ha ha ha. Yes, that would be nice. As I tried to do countless times before myself. ha ha ha ha ha. But since this is so funny, I am not after all being apart of any mandated abbreviations that want me to talk to you. Thus brings you here with their knowing & restrictions, upon what message or messages, your bringing out here to say, yet not say.
So is this shit a shakedown??? You KNOW my stance already! I am no super hero, But no super villan neither! I am sure I would be dead already if I were that much a threat. I am convinced of that. yet, HELP came to me from the Twilight Zone. Connected to those BEHIND THE PROGRAM, WHO CREATED THE FUCKING THING. But being the Martians themselves.
As I said Anonymous or whoever you are. I appreciate you replying here & is great communication topics if this was a thriving sphere. But it is what it is. I have enough weird shit on this plate & not the TIME to do what needs to be done, & more & more without the tools as time progresses. But all in all spooky man, I still am maybe writhing... etc... I guess I shall say laugh it up. But be warned, if I do get the right edge I need, I will I promise, be much to worry about .....
I guess it is obvious I am leery of you. Yet something of me likes ya. It is understandble by you of course, being anonymous & all, so you can understand my frustration in trying to figure you out, if you indeed are connected to this or not. Again, till something solid comes my way as evidence, I not mean Bullets (assholes), but I mean something of FACTS OF FAX of Certain Mysterious Pictures, & to whom is doing the talking??
cont...
Your mandated men of super heroes want you to be discreet to me with their knowledge your here. Thus them seeing what I am saying. They want me to cringe in fear of their power?? They want to impress upon me as their example to all, for us all as future generations to see & understand the colossal powers living in their own planets???
Maybe they are laughing now. Maybe you along with them ay?
So forgive me but your impression here upon me in this FACET, shows & tells me that I am at a table of sorts. I am listening to what you have to say. But I am not getting my questions answered it seems neither. Maybe as I read on your replies I will see any?!
Who am I? yes, I agree. Who the fuck am I?? Great question on many facets I have. Anyway, yet it remains that a mandated abbreviated mandate is here at my smog of a blog, to communicate something to a nobody, as you keep hinting at regards to me by the way! I aint stupid! Millions of listeners, compared to what I had to what less I have now. So I do NOT appreciate that tone with me. You wanted me at your table. I am sitting. My 1st question I demand answered is this... FRIEND??/... OR FOE??? Then start talkin & showin'.
Remember this, you can possibly destroy my body. You CANNOT & WILLNOT.... GET MY SOUL!! maybe this is where your alluding your topics & theoretical theories my way, for me to understand something. That maybe would make me react or do what???
WHAT IS OR WAS YOUR INTENTION of speaking to me?
Your obviously on the notice of those that put you on notice regards to me here & you here.
So am I to interpret this is being TERMS to be given?
Or why the importance or need to come forth & speak at all, unless something important is needed to be said?!
I wish you did have that power to Juss call Hoagland & say Dick, I want You to Disclose Next! ha ha ha... That aint my way there ok? ;-)
Keep his clothes on...
But from what I seen & heard someplace, it seems someone had already disclosed him... from something NASA sent him to as their rep, Gee Selliers words were what??? "WE GOT EM FROM NASA WE GOT EM FROM HOAGLAND,... THERE YOU ARE!! ONE OF HIM'S GONNA SAY YEAH.... THOSE ARE OURS!!! ha ha ha ha ha
So Noooo.. No connections to the Code of Cydonia & Super Hoagy & to where I heard that story. Ohhhh..Might you be familiar with that particular legend that Hoagland also IGNORED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT!!??!!
Your mandated men of super heroes want you to be discreet to me with their knowledge your here. Thus them seeing what I am saying. They want me to cringe in fear of their power?? They want to impress upon me as their example to all, for us all as future generations to see & understand the colossal powers living in their own planets???
Maybe they are laughing now. Maybe you along with them ay?
So forgive me but your impression here upon me in this FACET, shows & tells me that I am at a table of sorts. I am listening to what you have to say. But I am not getting my questions answered it seems neither. Maybe as I read on your replies I will see any?!
Who am I? yes, I agree. Who the fuck am I?? Great question on many facets I have. Anyway, yet it remains that a mandated abbreviated mandate is here at my smog of a blog, to communicate something to a nobody, as you keep hinting at regards to me by the way! I aint stupid! Millions of listeners, compared to what I had to what less I have now. So I do NOT appreciate that tone with me. You wanted me at your table. I am sitting. My 1st question I demand answered is this... FRIEND??/... OR FOE??? Then start talkin & showin'.
cont...
Remember this, you can possibly destroy my body. You CANNOT & WILLNOT.... GET MY SOUL!! maybe this is where your alluding your topics & theoretical theories my way, for me to understand something. That maybe would makeYour mandated men of super heroes want you to be discreet to me with their knowledge your here. Thus them seeing what I am saying. They want me to cringe in fear of their power?? They want to impress upon me as their example to all, for us all as future generations to see & understand the colossal powers living in their own planets???
Maybe they are laughing now. Maybe you along with them ay?
So forgive me but your impression here upon me in this FACET, shows & tells me that I am at a table of sorts. I am listening to what you have to say. But I am not getting my questions answered it seems neither. Maybe as I read on your replies I will see any?!
Who am I? yes, I agree. Who the fuck am I?? Great question on many facets I have. Anyway, yet it remains that a mandated abbreviated mandate is here at my smog of a blog, to communicate something to a nobody, as you keep hinting at regards to me by the way! I aint stupid! Millions of listeners, compared to what I had to what less I have now. So I do NOT appreciate that tone with me. You wanted me at your table. I am sitting. My 1st question I demand answered is this... FRIEND??/... OR FOE??? Then start talkin & showin'.
Remember this, you can possibly destroy my body. You CANNOT & WILLNOT.... GET MY SOUL!! maybe this is where your alluding your topics & theoretical theories my way, for me to understand something. That maybe would make me react or do what???
WHAT IS OR WAS YOUR INTENTION of speaking to me?
Your obviously on the notice of those that put you on notice regards to me here & you here.
So am I to interpret this is being TERMS to be given?
Or why the importance or need to come forth & speak at all, unless something important is needed to be said?!
I wish you did have that power to Juss call Hoagland & say Dick, I want You to Disclose Next! ha ha ha... That aint my way there ok? ;-)
Keep his clothes on...
But from what I seen & heard someplace, it seems someone had already disclosed him... from something NASA sent him to as their rep, Gee Selliers words were what??? "WE GOT EM FROM NASA WE GOT EM FROM HOAGLAND,... THERE YOU ARE!! ONE OF HIM'S GONNA SAY YEAH.... THOSE ARE OURS!!! ha ha ha ha ha
So Noooo.. No connections to the Code of Cydonia & Super Hoagy & to where I heard that story. Ohhhh..Might you be familiar with that particular legend that Hoagland also IGNORED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT!!??!! me react or do what???
WHAT IS OR WAS YOUR INTENTION of speaking to me?
Your obviously on the notice of those that put you on notice regards to me here & you here.
So am I to interpret this is being TERMS to be given?
Or why the importance or need to come forth & speak at all, unless something important is needed to be said?!
cont...
I wish you did have that power to Juss call Hoagland & say Dick, I want You to Disclose Next! ha ha ha... That aint my way there ok? ;-)
Keep his clothes on...
But from what I seen & heard someplace, it seems someone had already disclosed him... from something NASA sent him to as their rep, Gee Selliers words were what??? "WE GOT EM FROM NASA WE GOT EM FROM HOAGLAND,... THERE YOU ARE!! ONE OF HIM'S GONNA SAY YEAH.... THOSE ARE OURS!!! ha ha ha ha ha
So Noooo.. No connections to the Code of Cydonia & Super Hoagy & to where I heard that story. Ohhhh..Might you be familiar with that particular legend that Hoagland also IGNORED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT!!??!!
cause that is what it is gonna take to shut me up! If there is an enemy that whatever it is I am trying to deal with, & if I can learn & use it to our advantage, I will use it to DESTROY MY ENEMIES!! is that what is on the minds of those that are watching you??? if so, they know their answer. Who am I? Yet I ask, who will I be remembered as?? Will I even be remembered at all? At least I am alive & I have a dream! I do not think it may match to someone elses agenda. Is that what this is about?
I however do NOT wish to abuse this for it's powers that may be contained. But I am more interested in the benefits & the opportunities this can bring all humanity, in our place amongst the heavens in communication & being in touch as it were, with the other higher intelligences & advanced civilizations out there that may be potential allies or guides, or juss plain friends.
Yes, a Little Captain Kirkish.... But alas, I grew up watching Star Trek since single digit age. M mind was PRIMED FOR MY VISION & MY DREAM I HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST & LIVE OUT!!!
I am NOT in this to hurt anyone or start shit with secret societies & any super heros or super villans for that matter. Cause... WHO AM I??? So, your presence here now & all this great conversation has me seated wondering what you really want to or are trying to say.
I do respect what your saying, please respect my side & my point on this. Thus my attitude as it were. You not wanna say nuthing??? Coool. What do ya got for me?? Do you wish to aid my efforts?? Or thwart them??
Can you help me help add pressure to Super Hoagy?? I mean why is this table here of it were not for something that one or both of us can give to one another??? I just want to understand & be on the same page, as I said before!
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"Another thing is this "TEAM" you keep referring too. Members of what team? Are you talking about the "Team" of people like yourelf that "volunteered" to help Hoagland do research?"
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmm. Well, depends what FACET you look at, as usually there are more than one! :-/
But this TEAM I keep referring to is what the code keeps referring to THEMSELVES!!! THOSE BEHIND THE PROGRAM THAT HOAGLAND WAS OR IS A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM... A MEMBER OF OUR OWN!!
So the mystery really to try to figure out here is screw that Dick Hoagland, who are these OUR OWN TEAM GUYS???!! because again, it is as if they are the real ones doing the talking here!!! In this code I mean that presents itself now in the future, from whence it was made, in the past! To us all to figure out who this is?! It is obvious Hoagland knows, as you also are sure of, but he is running in another direction.
You never met the man yourself or spoken to him you say. Is it safe to assume your mandate friends have?
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Or are you talking about some "Team" behind the scenes that put the codes on that TV program?"
MARS REVEALER:
Some Light! maybe you need to listen to some more of my past stuffs in this, as it is not perfect, yet much more should come in understanding. With you keeping that in mind. I will place some links later. Then I can only hope you have patience enough to go through it all closely, & see what it paints?!
But yes, that is one Facet to that.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"I think you are forgetting that I was not there and so these small details tend to confuse me."
MARS REVEALER:
So it seems. But someone you know maybe was??? I know I have heard it all before... I CANNOT EXPLAIN THAT, SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW (something he didn't yes neither) yada yada yada...
But maybe in your case it is the truth. Again, we are at this table. I am trying to listen.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"If so then why would you think they were not messing with you? You can imagine that I am messing with you but not the people that put that code in the TV program?"
MARS REVEALER:
Again, you were quick to judge I TRUSTED ANYONE in this! However I made it clear more support is given from these behind the program, for wanting to help me or help me connect some things, that to me outweighs much concern they are the ones wishing me harm. But maybe... yes I have considered that.The fact is I don't know! But I am certain that this TEAM called OUR OWN has coded information about themselves, about Super Hoagy there, about these faces of Mars mysterious pictures etc etc. That someone wants/wanted us to see!!
That Hoagland for some reason, not wanted to be photographed in connection with way back when, & their team, or someone in it behind this code, wanted to call him out now in the future to rediscover his heritage of things they built on Mars. Surprise surprise it seems!
I guess that is a coincidence.
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"You gave them credit for telling you in the codes that they want Hoagland to come clean and you feel that that information is completely legit?"
MARS REVEALER:
Someone is speaking through this code or these codes! That I am certain! I also will say again, bearing in mind my investigation, my deciphering information I felt led me to see more of the story behind this shit, that connects & connected itself,... Get this, MAINLY DUE TO HIS OWN WORDS & ACTIONS TO ME!!! As well as to the creators of the program itself!
For instance, the code described & detailed a hearing in the past that took place. It was eerie. I was attributed as being in the middle. The inner chamber or inner court as it were is the inside of this code structure. Described as being a pyramid. So I in effect am in the middle chamber, in essence I am the cleared as being the COURT CLERK! With someone appearing to give a signature as it were, to form a summons to have someone appear to another hearing. NOW!!! IN THE FUTURE!! Think of it as it has been described as being A RE-HEARING!!
Because, the petitioner himself, stated that is what it is & that the past hearing he was not happy at the results. So now, in the future, he is having a case issued against THAT DICK HOAGLAND TO APPEAR TO HIS SUMMONS TO APPEAR & COME ON THE RECORD.... COME CLEAM... NOT WHITEWASH THE LIES OF STALIN!
Amongst a list of other statements & claims & attributes connecting to him!
Now, as I said,... This hearing was in the past, where a case was heard, & judged upon regards to Hoagland, & the petitioner of this code, this WRIT OF LAW, BEING SERVED UNTO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED TO APPEAR ON THE RECORD!
It is weird! This code shows me processes & conceptions of investigating, to building a case, to presenting court orders! Anyway, it seems that the Petitioner (who signed his name to this new case file opened as it were who is responsible for this being here) is named 'HIS PROFOUND RESPECT.... CHARLES!'
Now mind you at this point it is as if the code & me were at that point & time, actually communicating. cannot explain that all now, but I swear that is what it appeared to me as. He was serious & real pissed off!
Detailed in his ammendments as it were to his motion to call Hoagland forth, he decrees that it seems way back at this hearing, HIS PROFOUND RESPECT CHARLES, looked ahead in TIME, from the past before the hearing, & forseen the outcome from that trial. Where it seems Hoagland, was the defendant. It was HIS PROFOUND RESPECT CHARLES it seems, who was also in that court room as it were, where he obviously not liked what happened. You with me here so far? Ok...
Described in this Court hearing PAGE as it were to this code, was detailing the court room itself. That Hoagland The Judge & His Profound Respect himself, were in discussing charges. It seems against Hoagland. Brought up by His Profound Respect himself at that hearing as well. Something dealing with the Soviets, information given or illegally transferred or obtained that was a blow to this intelligence group (who maybe is the OUR OWN?) THAT WAS PISSED AT THE HARM Hoagland caused for them. This demand also came from him, THEY WANT THEIR MONEY BACK?! From Hoagland. They want to be paid back was the exact term. Boy, I can relate to that! :-/
It describes Hoagland in that past hearing acting as if he had done nothing wrong, saying all he needed to do & that he needed to do was to do his job. In financial terms as well, was to continue & do his work. But I still think they want their money back!
cont...
Now Hoagland denied the charges in whatever those exactly were it described, & that Hoagland smiled alot about things. Being a smart ass in the hearing as well being one to to His Profound Respect, the accuser it seems. Playing down the charges it seems he was doing.
Now, in retrospect to the info of this code, as ridiculous & nuts it seems, keep with me.In retrospect to this code, His Pofound Respect states that this what was needed to be done, was as a descriptive act. Of needing to take a child outside to spank. It was kinda funny how all this came together. yet can it be possible?? This should NOT even exist! Now bear in mind that was a descriptive analogy of what was needed to be done from His Profound Respect looking ahead in time before the hearing & seeing the outcome, again which he disfavored!! Obviously or there would be no need of a re-hearing! ;-)
So I thought that logical & also consistent to the story that seemed to be unfolding in this FILE I was able to access in this code. meant to appear? I think is possible, but maybe a happenstance because of what I discovered that allowed me to open that file. As I said, this is weird. I agree! ;-)
So anyway & again, this past hearing was heated. Hoagland & the Judge it seems was tighter than maybe what appears on the surface? For His Profound Respect notes that the Judge went slim on Super Hoagy, because of.... NEPOTISM!!! getting basically a slap on the wrist as compared to the justice His Profound Respect had in mind, for the crimes that hearing was going on for.
This is very important I feel, because connectons of this came NOT from this code alone, but confirmation as it were, from Hoagland himself, spazzing to me freaking out in his own wordsno less showing me there was merit to this code after all & in what I was doing. Because HOW CAN HE CONFIRM WHAT SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE?? I will tell ya what that is soon enough. I just want you to be sure of your statements to me as what is right or wrong here in intentions of the creators of this code.
Anyway, so the biggy in this is the JUDGE! That heard this case it seems. A secret hearing for secret folks. Ya know? ;-)
But desscribed was attributes that led me to come to the conclusion of the identity being described to us in that code of who the Judge was. This also gives us all a Time frame of this past hearing.
The code called attributes of Identity to someone named.... 'NEW ENERGY BILL!' Who also is given us more attributes to identify an identity. This Judge was called NEW ENERGY BILL, WHO WAS A GOVERNOR, WHO WAS CANDIDATE TO BE PRESIDENT!!!!
That the hearing was judged by Bill Clinton while he was Governor, & a candidate at the time, to be president!
New Energy Bill. Takes on a comical meaning also to add added attribute of identification to the identity. Maybe as a confirmatory addition that we are on the same page?! Interesting concept nonetheless I say!
Anyway, New Energy Bill appears to be the Judge. he is not opnly Judge but something else... attributed that declared him as being something else... something secret. Alluded to I think & sense, was or is a secret society. It was that type of attribute. Anyway, this hearing took place & preseen of the outcome.
That became an edge benefit on benefit of His Profound Respect getting his Justice. Looking through time to see the outcome??? Think about it! Now, as I said, he had already a plan in works at that hearing, unbeknowest to Super Hoagy there, that allowed His Profound respect Charles, to move & act quickly as is was described. Work quickly to take the child out to spank, & bring him back in to sit.
So it seems as being attributed that Super Hoagy & new Energy Bill share something similar as like unto a family business. NEPOTISM!! Thus the light sentence?! Thus pissin off His Profound Respect.
cont...
Hope your with me. if not, go back & read again! Because it is important I feel to mention this. So new Energy Bill is described as having Hoagland sign a declaration of his innocence, yet is somehow punished by stripping him of some of his powers?! I am not sure but that is what I gleaned. It seems that one of Hoagland's excuses was that what happened actually did NOT happen, because he was a document order as it were, unto himself, chartered by congress. Whatever that means. That he is to lend support & reinforce the BIG STRUCTURE when needed. Thus a connection clarification to the BUTTRESS!! Attributed as being Hoagland also. yes, in more ways than one Facet there ay? ;-)
Again, that sense of Humor thing. So as doing whatevr he did or does or maybe still does, he had to face some consequences for the crimes that was brought against him. he could not get off scott free. But leniancy was given. Obviously. I got that point.
So New Energy Bill as I said, as the code shows, that he had Hoagland sign a declaration of Innocence. Plus he was ordered to do things for His Profound Respect it seems as part of his punishment. Thinking he gotten over His Profound Respect Charles he immediately signs the order of the Judges findings & demands etc etc. Now think about this closely. he signs a DOCUMENT, that he as also being a document, as an entity unto himself, as an agency maybe, is signing his declaration of innocence.
Now think about His Profound Respect in what is going through his mind as Hoagland is all smiles & being a wise ass acting like he gotten over, is signing a declartion of innocence. I think now after all this, Hoagland now sees this as a signature of a confession of Guilt! That is how it must have appeared in His profound Respects eyes also as Hoagland signed.
You see, he had time to manuever to ensure that Hoagland was fitted into a justice system. One to unfold in the future for a future re-hearing of the matter. being served a warrant to appear as it were through me, the clerk of the inner court to this pyramid under the cover of a circle. The surface. This aint nonsense as Hoagland describes the same damm things!! I just see it underneath better now than before. ;-)
Anyway, there is a list of things I can state that was on that page between His Profound Respect & myself. The page I tried to make for it was also looking confusing to most that seen or read it. But I laid it out enough that when I go back to it, better clarity I can & will make. But a trail I am leaving also for myself. A work in progress.
Now this hearing & the addition of being told TIME was forseen through to allow time to prepare by His Profound Respect Charles, to have embedded within the already known outcome, of what things to add in place, that can be added & used to have Hoagland perform & serve as it were his sentence.
I do not think Hoagland knew what was coming as when we spoken about that way back when. Again, when his own words CONFIRMED THIS SO CALLED NONSENSE!! I knew I was onto something, a method that appeared to be working. Providing information. he freaked about it. You know what he said, instead of saying as I said to him, I am sure it is nonsense or not true, it cannot be, but he wanted me to tell him things I was seeing,.... So he says NO GARY! THIS IS NOT TRUE!! (which I thought also & you I am sure as well would think) Then he says... I NEVER MADE IT THERE!!!!!! I DECIDED TO GO TO A ...'PROTEST' INSTEAD!!! he confirmed the reality of this codes info by attributing direct knowledge yet alone connection to such a hearing. Thiough the 2 sides story is different! His profound Res[pect goes into MUCH DETAIL, & Hoagland says, HE NEVER APPEARED THERE???!!
cont...
Who am I to believe now looking back ay?? Someone is still waitin on to be appearing on the record to TESTIFY as it were, for this RE-HEARING!! he has indeed... BEEN SERVED! Where TICK TOCK... comes out in description of answering to His Profound Respect's call to appear for his new appeal for a re-hearing to take place. It seems it already is regardless of what Super Hoagy wants. I was & am caught in the middle. being the clerk of court & all. The jusry I am to think is to be the Public. The Judge??? I cannot make myself that nor did it really appear in code that way. because I am a victim & my judicial stance would be somewhat compromised would it not? So I thought that logical.
Maybe the Judge was & Is His Profound Respect Charles?! As this was his plan to have this re-hearing in the future.
he goes on & on & on attributing ammendments to his signature identifying him to Hoagland making demands from him as he signs this to me into court as it were to validify this case against Hoagland. As spooky as this all sounds & is, it does follow a law method being respected by his Profound Respect.
Now why is this important? Because part of Hoaglands punishment was to help create something. I believe it was his parts to be played behind & as well as on the scences of Ufo Diaries.
In essence it would be logical to assume he was meant to create his own future court hearing?! Now think about this, why did His Profound Respect Charles do this?? Because once Hoaglands signature went down, & also the New Energy Bill's signature, it becomes LAW! So any punishments thought appropriate for Hoagland would have to be ready & embedded within those documents he signed for New Energy Bill. Ok, that makes sense. Right?! So after that Law goes into effect, His Profound Respect would be scewed where his Justice was concerned. But there is no law saying one cannot look through time, to punish someone deemed appropriate unto his charges. So that became an edge to use to still be able to call out Super Hoagy & defend himself this time in another hearing, where he is being summoned to appear now on the record being told to come clean, amongst the many other things.
You know something more remarkable?? yet clarifying also?? is the fact that Hoagland said after he said he never appeared because he decided to go to a protest instead. I asked him why, he said that he was WITH DICK MORRIS ON THEIR WAY TO THE HEARING, & that he got out & left before they went into the place. That was Hoagland's words!!! DICK MORRIS??? It seems he is the same Dick Morris that helped Bill Clinton to become President!!!! Connections Most Intriguing ay?? Hoagland names names & confirms this code. yet tells a different story. he should at least as I have said, do that on the record so that this His profound Respect can be happy he appeared at least!
But he would not. he set me up isntead tirating & tantrumming for me to get off this train, to drop this Gary,... Do something else. Do Your own research on Mars, as if I was somehow tresspassing on him or something. Cause he was acting like a little BITCH!
I knew then I was definitely onto something more than the things immediately or not so immediately seen on the surface or beneath it. But it is there!
cont...
Therefore, by this being there & by Hoagland attributing connection & even knowledge of events I see in a code that should NOT exist, it helped me to adjust myself in thinking what I stumbled upon & started me having to look at him more as a suspect rather than a witness to something.
It appears I was right! Now I will add another thing, His Profound Respect makes clear in the end of his signature & stipulations given & demanded of Hoagland, for his case for me to summons Hoagland with, he wants Hoagland to be clear on this part especially. That THE OFFICES OF THE PRESIDENT'S WHITE HOUSE WAS BUGGED! I am assuming to attribute connections to the hearing that took place. It seems they want him to know & understand they have something, even signed documents. Oh If we can only find those ay?? ;-)
But they wanted him to know that especially.
So whatever his part to play is, your right on it seems to your theoretical possibilites there, that Hoagland was forced to do work with his super Friends, that included work for Ufo Diaries, & whatevr His Profound Respect Charles was doing that needed him. Plus stipulated in Hoagland's CONTRACTS with new Energy Bill, was use & provision of these MYSTERIOUS IMAGES SHOWING FACES OF MARS. OLD YET NEW DATA THE PUBLIC NEVER SEEN BEFORE!! Plus, to PLAY HIS ROLES.
His Profound Respect asserts that Hoagland cheated the contract by breaching to demand alot of money from His Profound Respect Charles, to use these images. Plus pissing him off more, was his breach of contract to play his role/s.
That was already testified, attributed & connected by what Lee Shackleford & Chuck Sellier had to say!! That helped me to see those connections of information given in this code that allowed me to see this picture being painted.
Hoagland also not wanted to play in his roles to this. I wonder why? Can you really also?? is it not obvious he did not wish to play his role because he NOT wished to be Photographed in connection to them or with them??? Thus as like we seen, in the future since his played or unplayed parts took place, this is now coming to show his photograph in this anyway??? That aint no coincidence there!!! Nor is it nonsense! As he wishes all to think this is!
So a rehearing in essence is logical to explain all this. Hey, at least there appears to be something of a reason that one can understand. yet is it true?? Hoagland has yet to appear!!!
So until then so he can prove this time in reality, to the court of public opinion, where the people are the jury, all we can go on to believe is that already given by those that bring this case against him. JUDGEMENT DAY AS IT WERE!!!!
But for him in this case.
It definitely is consistent to that Law scenario & is played out like one as well by having him not wishing to appear for the court! Therefore, this may have been forseen also, as His Profound Respect threw him another bone to chew on. FAILING TO APPEAR, WILL RESULT IN AN ARREST ISSUED! The type of Arrest is scary as I told Hoagland & I was concerned. His Profound Respect made it clear also failing to appear to his summons to appear & come clean, will have an issue of arrest come upon him. Upon which his chest will be cracked open, & hundreds will appear at his funeral.
That prophetic remarkable predicting phenomena going on there again! :-/
It aint my fault if that happens, especially when I also am NOT just the cleark of court to serve Hoagland, but I also am a witness unto being against the defendant, as he hurt me & did crimes to me & mine to prevent me from investigating something he wants to remain secret.
Therefore my testimony in a court of law as it were, would also be helpful to any prosecution. certainly in his defence is null, as he not even appears to his own hearing.
Or re-hearing rather. On the record.
cont...
We are at where we are at now still in his denial & refusal to appear to his summons. Thinking this will last or he will beat this system. I see & know I can use it to beat him in more ways than one. Sculpting the Hills of that Buttress. With constant meteoric bombardment rain! You will see & learn the relevance in that in my next MR Hoagy show painting! He confirms much if anyone can see enough of it to get it.
I am calling that next show... A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM REVISITED!
8 long parts... But consitent & leading you all to where he explains what I am doing, what I am trying to do, & even still, encouraging me as it were to continue on. How odd.
I know & see this all is spooky but I am trying to look past all that & focus instead of the information being finger pointed to me & to us all of that DICK HOAGLAND!! These faces of Mars secret images & his connection to OUR OWN TEAM, & being called out. I am NOT the one who is being finger pointed in such a way by this OUR TEAM, (I hope anyway) accept by them seeing me who is trying to bring this summons forth. Because they are doing the talking in this code & they know Hoagland sees & knows this to be true, as after all, he is A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM!!!
So back to your question that got me passionate here,...
quoting Anonymous...
"You gave them credit for telling you in the codes that they want Hoagland to come clean and you feel that that information is completely legit?"
MARS REVEALER:
I SEE & THINK IT BE LEGITAMATE ENOUGH!!!! Especially with me as being a witness & a victim, to demand justice also! So yes, it is legitamate enough. he knows it as well. I am sure of that! What do you know or your super friends know that can prove otherwise???
Because how can anyone attribute truth to someone that will not even appear for the record to rebutt what has been alleged by them, by me, by this code etc. So again, till other evidence is brought forth or Super Hoagy appears to testify & answer for the record these questions, rebutting these issues & claims, to defend himself, how can one be sure. I think we will have a clue for certain, if & when the punishment of arrest appears for him, & for many doubters, now won't we?!
That aint my fault.
As I said, it is yet to be determined on many facets to this code THING! Who is telling thE truth, who aint,... who is friend, who is foe, WHO AM I,... But enough is there already to put forth & demonstrate, & also convince me this is something needed to be studied. That someone is pasing information to us all inside it. That it is safe to determine veracity especially when it is the truth in many regards I can attest to & witness that allows me to think some anyway, is very legit!
But I hear what your saying, & I do appreciate your thoughts. It was a good question I admit.
cont...
Sorry you may not have gotten the answer you expected or wanted. But I just felt I had to throw that out there. There is alot of meat to answer for your question. That should help much answer that I think. But the veracity is to be determined.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Quote MR:
The best way no one to figure out anything, is NOT to put something out there to begin with! This is what does not add up.
Thats what I am trying to tell you. They have no choice but to put it out there. If they want to do anything it has to be hidden in plain sight. The humans have to have the chance to figure it out. If they cannot then thats great for the bad guys. Its the rules that they have to play by."
MARS REVEALER:
To me, that still not makes any sense. I hear what your saying, I understand the concept your saying. I guess. But what I am saying, is that it does not add up. I am ignorant & not in the know about such things. You appaently have knowledge & some understanding with your attributing connections of some kind to what I am trying to do to what your trying to paint here.
The HUMANS have to have a chance at figuring it out huh? really now? That is interesting. Why is that? Though at least I am appreciative of that concept. I think. But no choice? On whose rules? It is great for the bad guys to not figure this out. Now that makes sense!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Its why just about anything they do has been told in a movie at one time or anther but it is hidden among a ton of other crap."
MARS REVEALER:
These are things that still ignorance plays a part. But I can attribute opinion that what you say may indeed be true.
Look man, or MEN,... I aint trying to fuck with anyone. I just want soem answers about some fucking FACES OF MARS MYSTERIOUS PICTURES, & their reference infoz, confirming without that DICK HOAGLAND, by by passin this PLUG altogether in the pipeline of information being stopped up by him, & maybe we can progress some?!
That confirmation would be vindicting to me & my efforts at TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH about these pics & their locations & giving my universal salute to some, & a whoop dee doo to some others, & continue on, doing my Mars work &/or anything else I would want to do. But as for now, until this is through, I am seeing it till it is through. This is a game to you it seems & others, but this is MY LIFE & powers of God type shits going on here that I am beyond my control or ability to do anything about, are being used & has been used. To maybe make me think something. As I said to Hoagland if it is all lies it is lies. The fascination to me, is the structure of this code to begin with as TRUTH can be laid over it as well as lies. The model is the artifact in general I think. These are descriptions it describes itself as being as.
I admit it is like a wild Indiana Jones type stuffs & National Treasure movie type aspects to this all. It seems you have knowledge is what your trying to bring to this table it seems. You say my code eforts may be key to your research in some way maybe not exactly in those words you stated?! Right? But that research is unknown to me. Probably....Maybe I am sure.
Like Hoagland said to me once during a show we did together, THERE HAS TO BE A PONY IN HERE SOMEPLACE!!! Because of the other ton of crap inside. ;-)
cont...
That is what I feel is going on here. Lies & deception is everywhere. I only want the Truth! I never wanted a Pony to begin with! But someone this code says, decided to draw a circle, then was told to draw him a Horse. Interesting coincidences. :-/
But I still do not understand the who, the why, the how, the intents, etc.... of what picture our trying to paint without saying too much to make me believe what you say neither. Though I am noted of things you say. Interesting stuffs. Fascinating... Fascinating indeed!
But.. again, here we are at this table. WHAT do you want or need or are ordered to say?
I am assuming off info you gave me in all this, that is why I ask that. Certainly you can understand my position. You allude that you do very well in fact.
So I am listening.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Quote MR:
Now with 3 deaths in my family that would not have occured if we were not forced to leave!!
Do you see how frustrating this is to me? I make statements in response to what you said happened with Hoagland and then you throw new things like that out there which of course puts a whole new spin on it. Of course you are the only one that knows why you attribute those deaths to Hoagland. That's getting way too personal for me and and something that is none of my business."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmmm. really now. I hope it is none of your Business! Then this table we are at I become more becoming more at attention to what your really here for to say.
Because as you can imagine, I am trying to work on this code & other investigations stemmed from this same investigation that I am also trying to work on. Which obviously is why we are at this table now?
I yet to detrmine your business with those you say are overlooking you here. Because your here for them in my opinion. if all that is true of course. But I am respecting your statements to respect them as serious.
So,.... What is it ? What am I to think here?
An interrogation? You fishing for something I think anyone can see that. Maybe someone will also see that & wanna comment about that. You do make room for great discussion! ;-)
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Quote MR:
OK, here is a question, those you VOLUNTEERED for are the same ones who SELECTED me? I really want more input from you if possible regards to this.
Yes. We are again getting into the Spiritual Realm again. They are the ones that lead you to places. They are the ones that show you things. They are the ones that put explainations in your head."
MARS REVEALER:
So you do NOT mean the Mandated abbreviations who sent you here? You did not volunteer to them ? or you did? Or do you mean you volunteered to the spirits?? If so, then why would you volunteer yourself to the spirits realms??? Then again, I guess that depends what side of the Spirit realms you be volunteering for. Alas here is this table we are at again ay?
That brings us again, to what it is your really wanting to say. Your saying that these spirits you VOLUNTEERED FOR, are the same ones, that 'SELECTED' me?! Ok Hmmmmm... here it is again is where yet I still to find my answers regarding my questions about that.
cont...
Ok, so, the answer is SPIRITS,... SELECTED ME,....?! :-/
I wonder who the priest is maybe standing also behind you that told you to tell me that one! ;-)
But Hmmmm... SPIRITS SELECTED.... ME?! Ok. in respect to your time & words here, who are these SPIRITS that SELECTED...ME?! SELECTED ME... for what????
Alas this table again we are sitting at. :-/
Select me for what? To do what?? TO MOVE...NO... TO ABONDON THEIR OLD WORLD, & MOVE TO ANOTHER..... TO THE EARTH??? TO ME??? Ohhh I think NOT! But no matter who or what this communication is coming from, as remember one FACET to the claim of responsibility to this code is as being from.... THE MARTIANS!!! Communication is taking place & is able to be gleaned & seen!
Such as the case may be, this Code says even something also PROFOUND! That I seem to respect. What is that your thinking. Well since we are at this table & all,... WHY NOT????
OK. One statement made well clear by them is that it is NOT THEM, THE MARTIANS ON MARS TRYING TO KEEP THEM SECRET FROM US,.. OR PREVENTING US FROM KNOWING THE TRUTH,... BUT FROM 'FORCES' HERE ON EARTH!!!!
Hows that for a titty twister??!! Now, what would or do you have to say about that interesting comment of communication from these so called....MARTIANS?! Again, being transmitted through this CODE. It is they who allude & attribute as to the responsibility in helping to create this structure I am dealing with now. I take it maybe with this 'OUR TEAM' group, or maybe your Illuminati & their super Villans in the Hall of doom! Maybe they are alluding to them (The OUR TEAM Group) as helping them to create this THING?!
Because it is certain they are definately a Facet to this Code that has much to offer. So maybe in a sense, these Martians are SPIRITS that want us all to know & understand it aint them who are keeping things secret from, us all, but you earthlings here on Earth that NOT want us to see or to know the Truth!
Yes, it definitely adds flavor to this all I know. But you are fishing for something from me thus again, the table we are at. Maybe you should just ask me what it is you want to know that you think I maybe in some way can help you in your research?? If I do know it? Well then, we are at the table.... What gets fixed 1st??!!
But yes, I do KNOW that something is able to steer things. Maybe even put explanations in my head. But that not necessarily would imply spirits with that ability. It can be a Higher Than Human intelligence as well. or even extraterrestrial Higher Than Human Intelligence that is doing that also. I mean one can also say it is JEHOVAH or the Holy Spirit as that as well, can easily be attributed & applied. Again, depending upon those spirits & what they tell you I am sure. ;-)
Nothing I seen as evidence yet to conclude one way or the other. Especially in what you say so far anyway. Maybe you will show this so we are after all, dealing in FACTS!
I am understanding of that concept & experienced stuffs where I can say honestly yes, I do believe that is true & has happened on MANY OCCASIONS. To myself that makes me agree with your statement. but as some say & want others to think or believe about me, I AM CRAZY!!! That Pony in here again!
cont...
ANONYMOUS SAID....:
"You want proof? There is none. You either know it and feel it or you don't. I think you referred to that as faith. In my case it was more than faith it was something I was actually shown."
MARS REVEALER:
I hear ya. Proof is the experience to relate to what you said! But more than faith for you ay? SOMETHING YOU WERE SHOWN???
Now... what Might THAT BE??? Shown to you by who? What was the clincher by being shown that this brought it to be more than about faith for you? Your obviously convinced here. As I am on some things. Need more clarity of many others.
I hope you lessen the load in where this is going? So SPIRITS SELECTED ME & ARE STEERING ME, & PUT EXPLANATIONS IN MY HEAD?!
More is definitely needed from you to go on for me to say your telling me the truth.
Was it the QUEEN OF THE DAMMED you mentioned earlier about that helped this be more than faith for you? Where does she fit in with what you were shown if any connection that is applies?
Did she SELECT ME for something? if so... WHAT??
What makes these SPIRITS THINK I will go with their SELECTION choice plan?
What if they are EVIL SPIRITS?? I aint Joining their team. Know what I'm sayin... Ha ha ha! But very serious about that!!!!
You working for the Evil team of the legion of Doom is what your trying to tell me here Anonymous???
Well,... alll righty then....
I will wait for that answer as well. I hope not long?! ;-)
I wonder what you were shown though. What were you shown???
Will I be shown since I am SELECTED?? Hmmmm.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Quote MR:
Anyway, you then imply that the rest of us are in HOPE of what I can do with this. That is an odd statement. WHY?????
I can only speak for myself and frankly talking about it makes me uncomfortable as that area is not my specialty."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmm. So it seems. But your here speaking for your mandates as well. What do they have to say? Whose specialty is it that can answer some issues for me regards to this?? Why am I speaking with you instead? What news do you bring again?
Because you made me uncomfortable & suspect. You I am sure understand why!! I mean this is your life, your used to shit like this.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"There are many more learned people who are experts. But thats where all this leads and is more in the spiritual realm. You keep going in that direction with your questions and the best I could do is give you a general outline that is probably full of holes and mistaken notions. But in general I'm sure its correct."
MARS REVEALER:
Are there now?! Hmmmm. Then why do I have you at this table? because if your bringing me to table, I assume your worthy to be the one needed & qualified to have me at this table for the benefit of your peers I am to safely assume?! Maybe that is why I sense this all is NOT about what help you can do or give to help me get this truth then.
cont...
if they sent you, & are NOT the one I would need to speak to, yet I am talking to you, that says something. I feel insulted.
Why is that Anonymous?!
Now am I to take to heart your words are the truth as the facts behind my efforts, what it is I am trying to do, & I am to believe, that SPIRITS SELECTED ME to do something or be something, but you are not qualified enough to be an expert ON THIS nor tell me what it is I was or am SELECTED FOR?!
I not have enough blind faith for that. I need much more. But interesting things you say. That is the general outline I gotten from you. So it is noted. I am not trying to go the way of SPIRITUALITY! I am going the way of reality of COMMUNICATION TAKING PLACE WITH INFORMATION TO BE GLEANED & SEEN & KNOWN!! By what origin exactly or by whom in total, is yet also to be determined. Nothing stops those realities. But I guess what you say is certainly theoretically possible. But unlikely until I am as certain as you. Even if I see signs & wonders, I would not consider joining just any spirits side! Because it is the side chosen, that counts!!!
I choose the side of Jehovah! & His annointed KING!!
BUT THAT is me personally speaking.
So, what is it you wish to say again Anonymous??
ANONYMOUS SAID : (some freeky shit):
"But the problem I have with the "spiritual realm" is it skips over many steps to an orderly process of Mars research. I only dabble in it because I was brought into the Mars reseach at that level and had to go back and start at the beginning."
MARS REVEALER:
I guess if you say so. It skips over many steps to an orderly process of Mars research? Ok. Please explain?! :-/
You dabble in the spirit realms because you were brought into the MARS RESEARCH AT THAT LEVEL?? Hmmmm. That level of what??? Dabbling into the spirit realms??
Then you had to go back & start at the beginning ay? Now I can relate to that a bit, in regards to this code & my efforts in studying it. But dabbling in the spirtual realms? It is your possibility you believe, I will give you that. But I do want to know what youR STORY IS.
More is needed for me though to agree to that though. As I already noted why earlier.
ANONYMOUS SAID...;
"This is how I see the orderly process:
1. Was there once an ancient civilization on Mars? I think many of us can agree that there was. This bypasses the question of if there is still remnants of that civilization still up there possibly living underground."
MARS REVEALER:
Ok, that is understandable & logical, & I assume already that there is Intelligence living there now! So...
ANONYMOUS SAID to continue...:
"2. What did these people look like? I have come to the conclusion they look like us. Hoagland also said he thinks that way. Stitchins and his Annunaki would also be in that camp. That eliminates any green or red aliens or the greys the UFO crowd talk about."
MARS REVEALER:
Hmmmm. Kinda still seems the same issue you had with super Hoagy applies also here. What evidence of your research that you can show that your statement is also accurate??? We are spinnin in a circle ourselves here now again Anonymous!
This is the problem I see here with all this.
I need more input from you, I need to be on the same page with you. How can I unless you show me?? What do you want of me & what do you have to give to me? How can YOU help me in my efforts or to fix things??
cont...
Anonymous said... To continue again..:
"3. If they look like us then is there a connection with them and us earthings? You have to think there has to be a connection which would explain all these secret societies with their supposed secret knowledge. Secretcy to me implys evil. Why else keep it secret? So in my opinion, by definition they are evil."
MARS REVEALER:
I aint sure about all that Anonymous. From what I glean then the Martians in this code are then NOT evil. because they are trying to communicate & tell us it aint them doing the lying & deception regards to them there on Mars, but that prevention again, is coming here from earthlings wanting to prevent us from seeing or knowing. Hmmmm.. Keeping secrets... Evil. Kinda narrows that message clearly down doesn't it a bit?!
Is that what your trying to tell me here? Your an evil employee working for the Hall of Doom? I am serious here!
There is definately a connection in this code tween Martians & certain earthlings that are still working to prevent us & shit!
It is to be decided who is telling the truth, them or these earthlings of evil who are being in cahoots with evil spirits then?!
That tells me I really wanna see & kNow who or what is really on & IN mars to see & hear the TRUTH from them. More so than from anyone on earth that is just working to prevent us from discovering that truth the Martians are trying to tell us in this code about them & what is being done to us by Certain earthlings.
Why am I reminded of that 1952 movie THE RED PLANET MARS???
I will also add that secret societies are attributed as being on earth. It is these it seems we are being shown & told to us all, are even implicated in reasoning the origins to what this all is to begin with. It was done in an Old Masonic Lodge in Salt lake. The host set. So maybe they are telling us the Lie, that The Martians are pure evil. Because again according to the Martians take on this shit, in this code that is, it aint THEM THAT IS LYING OR DECEIVING US ALL,.. BUT FORCES HERE ON EARTH!!!!
So if the Illuminati with the super friends want us to think & attribute the Martians as being evil, to stay away from there etc... is because they fear the Martians or they are covering something up that yes, they are in secret knowledge of that they do not want us all to see & also know. Thus, they are the EVIL ones you really speak of. NOT THESE MARTIANS!!
To me it is obvious these martians want us all to see & KNOW OF THEIR EXISTANCE!! Knowing full well what the intentions of these secret powers are & this code making that known in itself, shows them (the Illuminati), that their message (The Martians) was able to make it through also! You can tell your legion of Doom that for me!!! If that is who you work for of course.
maybe someone slipped something by them as they did to super Hoagy there?? I do not know. A 3 way circus this all is just to get some fucking amazing Face Of Mars Mysterious Pictures I will say that is the truth!! :-/
Nothing you said so far, seems to be of any help in aquiring them. So they will not be thrown down upon this table then I take it?
Why are we talking again?!
But I agree there is now a connection tween them & us earthlings getting by some FORCES working to prevent us all from seeing or knowing the truth! I am convinced of that!
So, if they are evil, who did you volunteer for again??? That my being SELECTED was or is to be considered an Honor to me? By spirits no less. How should I be acting I have a reason to be honored in that? Please do tell.
it is pretty bad looking for me to have evil honor me. Or I should be honored being selected by EVIL SPIRITS?! ya hear what I am saying? Of that I am certain. If so, I feel for you. I ask again WHY DID YOU VOLUNTEER??!!
cont...
ANONYMOUS said...:
"4. so if I am on the right track they are evil and have an agenda for the people on earth and their minions work toward this agenda through the secret societies."
MARS REVEALER:
But that is what NOT adds up! In a sense if all is how you say it is being as valid, then yes, that makes sense. However, if the Martians are telling us it aint them, but forces here on earth who hold this knowledge of them secret from us all,... Does that not contradict your theory there at all?? As being truthful or valid? Especially if your working for the EVIL??
HOW MUCH OF A THREAT AM I????
Why are we at this table??
I also put forth a possibility that The martians themselves are trying to tell us that makes me not believe your words as accurate truthful knowledge. I believe it is the knowledge of facts that your trying to tell me you want me to think or believe, but These Martians went all out in such a way as to show & tell me things, that you as of yet, have NOT SHOWN to me anything or any reason why I should discount their side of the story to yours. Or theirs of the evil side HERE ON EARTH, LYING & WORKING TO PREVNT US ALL FROM DISCOVERING THIS TRUTH?! To me I see that as truth every day, especially in regards to Mars & it's SERIOUS RESEARCH!
It can be seen also in that light, so we are where we were at, when we started talking. No wheres.
I just do not see it the way your describing because I am seeing contradictory aspects in things you say, things the Martians say, & things Hoagland said, & things the creators say. Boy that Horse is Huge in here!!
Maybe your right. I mean again, WHO AM I to super heroes or to super villans?? Who am I to these martians who want us to see & know who it is that is really keeping these secrets from us. WHY DO THEY WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT THEM???
If they are working for the secret socities, then why are they pissin on their own in stating that THEY ARE THE LIARS...NOT THEM. They are the EVIL... NOT THEM!!
Why is that stronger based?? Maybe I need to be shown something also. That would prove them the liars. But fuck, look what has been done to me, look who it is I been talking to in this code, & look at the things they helped me to see because they want me to know the TRUTH!!! To figure it out about them, about what we are told on earth about them, & what the intentions are of the Evil forces you speak of anonymous!
They see & understand it seems what has been done to me. There must be a reason for it that they want all of earth to know about this for a reason that conflicts with this evil I feel. Like that would or might help make a difference for them, as well as for us all in the future.
I don't know. But I see confliCtions already. In more ways than one. I did say I understand it is obvious, I am in a war! I aint playin!! Nor are anyone else in this code I feel.
So the true evil ones & any minions working for evil is really yet to be seen & decided. But I tend to side & agree in many senses, with the MARTIANS aspect of things.
ANONYMOUS SAID...
"5. What is their agenda? This in my opinion is where you start getting into the "spiritual realm". "
MARS REVEALER:
Great question. yet at the moment, What is yours is also still my question as you alluded to you also had one. That it differed from Super Hoagy's. let us stay in the physicAl realm for a bit shall we? Your implying the spiritual realms so far. The Martians from what I see in this code so far, did not & does not so far anyway attribute to being spiritual per say!! That would outright make me indicate that attribute unto themselves. I am not yet convinced of that. of course I can be wrong & am open to that being a possibility in what you suggest. Need more input....
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ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"If there is anything to your code then this is where it would come in."
MARS REVEALER:
maybe, but so can telepathic capabilites in regards to some of this. By living beings rather than spiritual beings. Nothing again as of yet to show either way. But I would be lying if I did not tell you that may be a possibility! because of of what would have to be SPIRITUAL, because it seems I was to think or accept that it was My MOTHER coming through someone talking to me wanting me to know somethings. telling me I had a message to tell. Mars is My planet I was told, Richard Hoagland was not my friend. That he is very sick & will need an operation. His heart was indicated by this person being used as a mouthpiece. By him pointing to his chest where the heart is.
I am summing this up & will NOT tell this story whole here. But other things also was spoken to me about regarding my wife, regarding My Brothers & My uncle, & also regarding my inheritance which was being told to me I had money coming. That I was getting screwed by them & NOT by my mother. I was told again I had a message to tell, & then said again was that Mars is My planet, & again, I have a mesage to tell.
I had told this to That DICK Hoagland the night this occurred. He played it off telling me it was INTELLIGENCE that it was not my mother. I did NOT even know the guy who told me this. So many things he was right on about & helped me see & understand a few other things also...NOT just regarding me & my Mars research.
He still wanted me to think or believe it was intelligence. I wanted to tell him because I had no one else to tell at that time, besides my family.Passing the message on as it were amongst them! Grrrrr.
But also because of what was said about Hoagland needing an Operation, so I wanted to warn him to go get checked JUST INCASE!
He blew it off but understood I was very serious. I did NOT tell him about the part where I was told he was NOT my friend. This is before & in process of things going bad between me & him.
My mother died November 11th, 2005. It was the following year in 2006, when this spiritual experience encountered me & vicea versa.
So maybe Anonymous, you may be onto something.
But as yet I am still not fully understanding what that was that happened to me through that guy. I guess he was like that dude John Edwards in a way?? I actually thought I was on candid camera at 1st. But very quickly details grabbed my attention from this guy & what was being told to me, I knew this was no candid camera moment. I am convinced something or someone speaking through him, to me, wants me to think & believe it was my mother. But so accurate & so clear, it had to be her! Having also a certain personality trait that she had when she talked that I recognized that even through this guy.
Hoagland wanted me to believe it was Intelligence following me around. I knew that could not be right I think he not took seriously my expperience anyway playing it down.
My mom (if it was really my mom) seemed to think enough importance was necessary to mention about him 1st, before the other things. That made me curious, & she wanted me to know that he was not my friend! That I have a message to tell!
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Only later did things pan out that way for sure ay?!
Is that a coincidence??? I do not think so. Tell the truth I do not know what to say it was, But something went on that someone was trying to give me information. Just like this code.
I just thought I would mention this, as to clarify I am not totally closed minded about what your saying. Even with this weird shit, I still not have enough to go on at the moment to be certain as you appear of yourself in what your telling me. or trying to.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"If there is anything to your code then this is where it would come in. Thats why I am interested in seeing if there is anything to it."
MARS REVEALER:
Maybe.It seems others are able to watch that video alone, & it would NOT COME IN. The broadcast, as it were, to those watching, see & hear NOTHING, accept what is seen or heard on the surface. Even that being as it may & is, many still miss much of that shit! For instance these Faces most & many miss, till I pointed them out of course. They not see or hear also the things on that surface. They are merely entertained in my opinion, or for some reason or another, they watch, but just not pay any real attention.
Now to me this aint a fault of the people watching in general. IE the Public! To me, for any so called SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHERS, they should have picked up on MORE THAN JUST THESE IMAGES!! because on the surface seen & heard, are things that should make these so called SERIOUS MARS RESEARCHERS wanna look into this all more closely & even ask or DEMAND THE TRUTH FROM THAT 'DICK' HOAGLAND!
But maybe your right, in some ways with that theory of yours. It still is NOT Fact! But I agree & am convinced & admit to all, that there is somebody, something, of high intelligence speaking through this CODE, wanting us to see it's messages. But they made it as a Bizzarre Puzzle, to be studied, & it's riddles looked at & solved, to make connections so that the lingo gets somewhat clearer & we can use our minds to paint the picture of all these PIECES to the puzzle we can see or fit together, as the picture shows more detail of what it is that is trying to be painted, that is trying to be shown & told to us. (I fucking HATE PUZZLES! So go figure how I would wind up with this THING to dea with.)
So take it from me, since your here speaking to me on this now, there is DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO THIS!! I wish I can tell you there was not. Believe me there also. But good or evil??? Not enough to go on yet. because there appears to be more than one side in this doing the talking! We have 2 or even possibly 3 different attributes of different entities or identities rather. or both. ;-) Each having something to say or to be seen from their paths from their facets of their pieces mixed in this Bizzarre Puzzle! That is my opinion, it seems the only one that counts right now, because I am the one that sees something & has already shown some incredible things from it & because of it!
Ya see, if I were really Crazy... (BU),... I would NOT be able to see or do anything at all, yet show connections using the scripts, the visuals, or outside references or outside connections. NOTHING!! That is what there would be if this all was NOTHING TO IT AT ALL!! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!! NOTHING TO LEARN!! NOTHING.... BEING TOLD!!
NO ONE CAN PROVE OTHERWISE!! The only thing they can do, is the things you already described at what has been done to me that from what you see of me & super Hoagy there, that your theoretical possibilities were noted.
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ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Like I said earlier I think I have a general ideal of what that agenda is but the details escape me and that code is the only ball game in town that could possibly fill in some of the pieces."
MARS REVEALER:
You shared some general idea about what you think their agenda is. You have a general idea of mine. I am in pursuit of TRUTH. I am in pursuit of these Faces of Mars images. I am in pursuit of any & all whom done me & mine harm because of these!
The details ESCAPE you ay? Hmmmm. Can it be because you tried to TRAP them? ;-) It seems someone is trying to do so. What happens when you trap an ANIMAL? Especially one not sure of?!
You say THAT CODE IS THE ONLY BALL GAME IN TOWN ay? Hmmmm.
Well, that would appear RIGHT ON in the information in this code! They described this occurace by means of using sports, because this code attributed this code as beling like a game. With me as a player on the field. As a player who is trying to catch the ball.
That this code attributed an identity being called as an illegal player on the field, who is illegally preventing the ball to be caught by the player trying to catch the ball.
How do I know this?? Because the code attributes itself as to what seems to be occuring, then as now, that this was being done by this illegal player on the field. So the code describes what is happening now in this.
The code describes also something that maybe is happening. As it were, it sent out a team of LEGAL defensive tacklers, to get the illegal player outta the way. It seems the illegal player was attributed to the identity described & connected to that DICK HOAGLAND.
They described this occurace by adding that this illegal player was acting as if he was keeping a player in check, by preventing that player from getting the puck.
The code also attributed this situation as to a broadcast reception. Attributing that there was interference, of a signal, or broadcast that was being sent from one destination, to another. From MARS, TO EARTH, being blocked from being TUNED IN!
Guess the identity attributed to that blockage?? The one always telling us to STAY TUNED! Go figure again. I am sure some would say that is a coincidence, again. Because some have said that. :-/
But I am glad to see someone else, sees that game going on, because THEY ARE LATE & IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN!!
yES, TO FILL IN THE PIECES OF THIS BIZZARE PUZZLE!
But I wonder, if what YOU have, can help with what I have??? Is this why we are at this table?? Again, I hope this leads someplace, as I am spending much time communicating with you about this, in the hope I aint wasting my time. By addressing you. You gotten my attention, so that worked. Where it goes after this reply, I guess will be up to you.
If something I am doing that can help you, you already know I need help. That is how that will work. Now THAT would be FAIR.
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ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"I just read this at a site I think is 50 percent BS but wondered how they managed to get this right.
"Not being told to the American people about this Great Game, currently being played out upon our Earth, is that their leaders, including Obama, are part of a centuries old “cabal” intent upon igniting what they believe will be our Planet’s “Final Battle” which, according to their beliefs, will see the return to our Planet of the “ancient gods""
MARS REVEALER:
Ok. I heard of things similar, but as I said, it aint my field of research. MARS IS MINE! Now no offence again, but what does this have to do with Ufo Diaries, The CODE OF CYDONIA, these Faces of Mars images & That DICK Hoagland working to prevent us from dis-covering the TRUTH?
I hear what your saying, I just do not attribute that information, to my investigation to get us the TRUTH about these Faces of Mars images, & what the code has to say.
But I would not be surprised if your theory is true, that that is actually happening IN GENERAL.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"so this nice guy offers his two daughters up to this mob to "do as they please to them". does that sound like a holy man?
Does something strike you as being wrong here?..."
MARS REVEALER:
Yes. I was told that someone seen these exact words someplace spoken before. That does bother me a little. :-/
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"So my theory is that god imprisoned the Nephilim on mars. Probably there are mummies underground and the minions of the secret societies want to get their DNA and bring it back to earth to produce physical bodies the Sons of Gods can take over to kill humans."
MARS REVEALER:
Good theory. Again, that is what that is. Certainly in realms of possibilities I agree. But what if that theory is wrong??? Whose word & PROOF IS CREDIBLE to show that theory is correct to have all humanity find out about this, & think like that without that proof?? because as I see it, it can be a set up for humanity, playing their fears unto them, to make us say without a fight, we must stay away from Mars!
Therefore without humanities desire to go there & find & study mummy's or the ARTSCAPES of Mars, let alone what is under that surface, it would be a free for all for those in the know, who are there & getting to go, & seeing & playing with everything, without the rest of us pesky primative humans being around while they do what they do, goes unhindered. SECRECY STILL A MAJOR ROLE TO PLAY!
I left out much of the stuff you said before because here & now I feel is not the time or subject, until & if our conversation morphs that way. I am very interested & into those subjects where these branch off into. But now, we need to be on the same page still.
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"From what I understand it works like this. On judgement day, all will be judged. Fallen angels, Humans and all other beings. Those immortal beings that are judged to be unworthy will lose their immortality. They will be replaced by humans that are judged to be worthy."
MARS REVEALER:
That is interesting, because I can attribute it all to what is going on now. I shall explain.
From what I understand, IT WORKS LIKE THIS, Those Immortal Beings, 'GODS" (like that DICK Hoagland) that are judged to be unworthy, 'will be replaced' by someone judged to be worthy!! Who that is or would be? You tell me!
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ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"...for some reason the Creator decided to 'hold court' on this hell hole of a planet.
"So the fallen Angels figure that it is in their best interest to corrupt as many humans as possible. Make it so there are no humans that can replace them. I don't thonk that will matter but I think thats what they think."
MARS REVEALER:
I can still attribute that to what is going on now, in the FACET just gleaned. Why? How? Let me tell ya. The fallen angel in this case, Super Goagy, the self delusion of Godhood, knows he is to be replaced. Therefore, it is in HIS BEST INTEREST to corrupt as many people as possible, some by giving the 'REACH AROUND', in order to keep them all in the dark of the truth, & what this is really about, so he thinks he can prevent his replacement, preventing himself of being DIS-COVERED & UN-COVERED.
In essence, to me it sounds as if he does NOT want to lose his position, & NOT WISHES TO.... RETIRE! But I agree with YOU, I do not think he can do nothing about it neither! But as you said, that is what he thinks!
But there was an illegal player on the field, obviously trying to prevent this ball game from starting, let alone having anyone want to attend!
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Never the less they are doing a very good job at corrupting humans. I seriously doubt that there are many humans worthy of becoming immortal creatures at this time."
MARS REVEALER:
Again, I can attribute it here. Hoagland is doing a very good job at corrupting humans to keep them blinded by the truth. I also doubt, that there are many at all, worthy to replace that DICK Hoagland & become an Immortal creature. As he thinks that he still is!!!
I know this aint what your saying Anonymous, it is WHAT I AM SAYING!!!!
However, I do not count myself as worthy, if anyone is thinking that?! I do not think I am a super hero, nor a GOD. :-/
ANONYMOUS SAID...:
"Sorry if I bored you with this but you kept wanting me to go into it."
MARS REVEALER:
Again, yes I did & still want you to. As long as we are on the same page. We are at this table.... are we not? If not, what is the point in all this?
Please address my questions....
I am far from bored.
MARS REVEALER
very interesting, thanks
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